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Star worthy?
coppertoning
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I may be sending this coin to GC but I feel the coin could pull a plus or possibly a star designation. If so it would likely be worth the submission fees. The holder is a little rough anyhow so I would like a new holder regardless if I auction the coin so I feel I may as well crack anyhow.
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- Marcus Tullius Cicero, 106-43 BC
it is a star regardless
they got the strike centered enough for united states on reverse...centered
the obverse got centered enough for full portrait and date
sweet and rare just for that...tuck in a copper washington
yeah this is a star and or prize
but i think ngc only gives "star" for incredible toning...just missed designation or one sided only...exceptional for grade
strange thing is
this doesn't to me look like struck on 1 cent planchet...it looks like a clad planchet missing a layer or improper alloy
as it looks like alot of nickel present
cent planchet off metal strikes usually look just like that...a copper example...this shows nickel and copper to me
ask the crowd if they see this...surely i'm not alone
"She comes out of the sun in a silk dress,
running like a water color in the rain...."
<< <i>Do they grant the star to error coins? >>
Good question I never considered that. I will ask NGC
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
My Washington Quarter Registry set...in progress
copper cent planchets in 1967 were great quality
have them weigh it if resubmitted for a star and update us (more so ME) please
<< <i>Would that not lead to a distorted strike? Seems much to sharp to be stretched >>
metals stretch in their coining...thus flow lines or luster pops up
right around the eagle...clearly is exposed pure copper fields and the eagle is nickel
the obverse...his neck has pure copper with nickel highlight
it screams at me ....this is on a dime planchet
but yeah...planchets stretch to comform to those dies being smashed on them...as the metal gets to flowing
i think they heat up during which softens to keep distortion low
but that heat is what produces the frost and or luster
alot metallurgic is going on
of all things...i'm just an ex aerospace machinist...surely some are more versed in finer things coining process...
dan carr could pop in and explain in a more professional level
but i have the general idea
btw
i'm not trolling you here and mean no disrespect nor ill intent
you have a very sweet piece there
kool factor and i see quality in off planchet strike that most don't have
it's upper shelf
I just believe the toning and lighting are throwing you off
<< <i>I don't view it is as trolling just interesting.
I just believe the toning and lighting are throwing you off >>
exact weight would tell...
i bet if you made a poll based thread
was this struck on a cent or dime planchet...a consensus would bear some insight
could even be "a foreign clad" planchet too
3.05 gr
Lance.
quiets me for the most part...that should be on the low side of a 1967 cent weight...still within tolerance
thanks too
i'm still suspecting a foreign clad here though as i head off to tha corner and pout some...
<< <i>i'm still suspecting a foreign clad here though as i head off to tha corner and pout some...
It's simply toned. No clad planchet here.
I'm with Broadstruck; I've never seen an error with the plus or the star. And I doubt that either tpg would consider using these designations on errors in the future.
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<< <i>i'm still suspecting a foreign clad here though as i head off to tha corner and pout some...
It's simply toned. No clad planchet here.
I'm with Broadstruck; I've never seen an error with the plus or the star. And I doubt that either tpg would consider using these designations on errors in the future. >>
That could just as easily be from the small sample size. Errors constitute a very small population of collectible coins from this series, and coins with the star designation are also in the minority. The likelihood of having both is statistically very small.
You list the coin as struck on one cent. Is that struck on a one cent blank, planchet, or previously struck cent?
See http://www.doubledimes.com for a free online reference for US twenty-cent pieces
<< <i>Not to burst your submission bubble ... but the grade is fairly irrelevant with strike errors. Whether or not you get a "star" or a "plus" won't add to the coin. The coin speaks for itself and a "higher" grade or fancy designation won't enhance the coin. Save your money and enjoy the coin. BTW ... it's got some nice eye appeal.
You list the coin as struck on one cent. Is that struck on a one cent blank, planchet, or previously struck cent? >>
On 1c planchet
<< <i>awesome coin but I do not think the buyer would care if it is a star or + for this type of coin since it does not give any extra registry points or add any value from my experience. It is all about the look of the coin and it is a very nice coin. I would not sell it on GC if I were you. Heritage or ebay will get more looks for an error coin IMHO. >>
Unfortunately it is not all about the look of the coin.
If this exact same coin hit the market at 64 vs 65* with all other things being equal the results would be drastically different it is just the way it is. Even if the coin did not deserve the higher designation it would be the result
I wondered the same thing about whether they put star labels on error coins, because some of the most dramatic and interesting error coins are not beautiful in the same aesthetic way as regular coins. Sometimes the more appealing and interesting an error coin is as an error, the more "ugly" it will be in the traditional sense.
So who knows. I'll bet someone here or ATS will.
Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.