Warning About 1967 Seaver RC PSA 9 ST on eBay
gemint
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Just wanted to pre-alert anyone on the forums who's thinking about purchasing this card to think twice. I had bought it back in March and returned it to the seller because it had a surface wrinkle when the seller told me before my bid that the surface was flawless aside from the wax stain. It's probably a 5 or at best 6 without the qualifier or stain. The other crappy thing about it is the seller is basically stealing the card from the Post Office. When I received the card and it had the wrinkle, I filed an 'item not as described' case and the seller reluctantly told me to send it back. The carrier apparently never scanned the package so the tracking number still to this day shows the package hasn't arrived. In the meantime I had received an insurance payment for the partial value I insured it for. Fast forward to this month and all the sudden the same card with the same serial number shows up again on eBay from the original seller. He claimed the PO had a note that he had to pay back the insurance claim to get the package. In speaking with PO claims and postal inspectors, they told me the PO would never, ever go back to the recipient to claim back the money. They would always go to the person who received the insurance (me). So he got my original $938 plus he'll pocket whatever the item sells for this time.
Seller's ID is 'mlbnfl'.
Stolen 1967 Seaver
Seller's ID is 'mlbnfl'.
Stolen 1967 Seaver
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Don't you have to send the item back with signature confirmation when that high of a value?
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<< <i>Weird.
Don't you have to send the item back with signature confirmation when that high of a value? >>
With high dollar insurance, you have to sign for it. I'm guessing the carrier forgot to scan it in when the recipient signed it.
Only a Psa 9 with no qualifiers would go for $5,000 for this card.
I saw the listing earlier this morning and could not see the ST and was planning on being involved in this auction at the end. Looking at it now, @ $5000, I wouldn't have been involved with it anyway but that is secondary to the fact that the seller sounds like a scumbag.
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The seller lied when he claimed he never received the card back from John for a refund and now he has the nerve to relist it under the same ID? Unbelievable.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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standing to file a complaint? John, do you have the sellers address?
Dave
<< <i>This has to be a clear case of mail fraud and wire fraud. Who would have
standing to file a complaint? John, do you have the sellers address? >>
Yes I do have his address on the insurance slip. The destination was West Virginia.
All kidding aside, thanks for warning the community.
<< <i>You only paid $938 for the card originally, and now it is over $5,000???? What am I missing here? >>
Bobby what you are missing is obvious, these are not real bids. No way this card sells for $5,000. It would only
go for that amount with no qualifiers.
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<< <i>You only paid $938 for the card originally, and now it is over $5,000???? What am I missing here? >>
Bobby what you are missing is obvious, these are not real bids. No way this card sells for $5,000. It would only
go for that amount with no qualifiers. >>
The top bidder has only bid on one card in the past 30 days so it is most likely an account of someone who doesn't mind getting a non payer strike and probably saw this thread and wanted to have some fun.
That aside. A sale like this could skew the VCP average significantly.
The question I am sure has been asked prior but how does VCP stay accurate when sales like this take place? Does Bobby manually remove them? I would think even so that plenty of non completed transactions would be mixed in with the data making it hard to know a truly reliable average.
In terms of this thread, I support the OP, but just to play devil's advocate - it is a graded card.... Unless of course there is a question the seller swapped a card into this holder. The other thing I don't get - what incentive would the seller have to get the bidding up to 5K, something not adding up.
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<< <i>You only paid $938 for the card originally, and now it is over $5,000???? What am I missing here? >>
Bobby what you are missing is obvious, these are not real bids. No way this card sells for $5,000. It would only
go for that amount with no qualifiers. >>
The top bidder has only bid on one card in the past 30 days so it is most likely an account of someone who doesn't mind getting a non payer strike and probably saw this thread and wanted to have some fun.
That aside. A sale like this could skew the VCP average significantly.
The question I am sure has been asked prior but how does VCP stay accurate when sales like this take place? Does Bobby manually remove them? I would think even so that plenty of non completed transactions would be mixed in with the data making it hard to know a truly reliable average. >>
Good question dpeck I wonder how VCP stays accurate with sales like these.