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1986 Fleer Jordan - PSA 8 or 9 for long term potential

Looking at getting a few Fleer Jordan rookies in PSA 8/9, and I have been noticing that 8's for around a grand while 9's are seeing prices from $2400-3000+. From a 5-10 year window to hold and let appreciate what would be the best option if someone had $10k? Grab (4) 9's, 8-10 8's, or a mixture of both grades? I think in 5-10 years that both will see large increase in price and wondering which way would be the best way to go.

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  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Have you thought of diversifying and having more cards to look at in the meantime until you unload? Can get both a PSA 8 and 9 Jordan, plus a nice Mick and even a Ruth or Cobb card, or whomever is your favorite star. Shoeless Joe is out of the question at that price point but can definitely get a great assortment that gives variety when you look at your cards as well as good bets monetarily.

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  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    sit back and wait for that psa 10 to pop at a decent buy it now price...happens every once in a while. there was one a few months ago that was up for just under $9K. sold in less than an hour, and while its quite rare, it does happen.
  • 60sfan60sfan Posts: 311 ✭✭✭
    Jordan's '87 Fleer has been moving up this year.........PSA 10 is about $1,500.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭


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    << <i>sit back and wait for that psa 10 to pop at a decent buy it now price...happens every once in a while. there was one a few months ago that was up for just under $9K. sold in less than an hour, and while its quite rare, it does happen. >>



    Be VERY careful on eBay with Jordan PSA 10s. If the price is too good to be true, it most likely is a scam. For every 1 reasonably priced PSA 10 listed on eBay, 10+ are bogus listings! >>




    100%. do your due diligence and always put on amex!
  • slum22slum22 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭✭
    If you bought a 10, would you be wise to immediately send to PSA for reholdering? Aside from the shipping and insurance, I believe the reholdering cost is pretty minimal. This would allow you to have them essentially verify the legitimacy of the card (and get a nice new, blemish-free holder).

    BTW, good question by the OP. I have been wanting a PSA 10, but I can't justify the expenditure now. I will probably sell off a few items (or more than a few) to subsidize the purchase. For that reason, I recently got a PSA 9 from BBCE. I traded some unopened and some cash and got a really good deal on it. I figure the 9 would get me in for about 20-25% of the 10 and if I can get the right 10 at the right price I can sell the 9 to help finance the 10. DJR is right about the centering on PSA 9 Jordans. They are very tough to find nicely centered in 9's and 8's. I am kicking myself as a pretty nice 8 just sold yesterday and my snipe service let me down as it sold for less than my snipe (snipe failure twice in the last two days). If you can get a centered 8 for around $1k or a little more, jump on it (or tell me and I will get it). Centered 8.5's may be the best deal of all, but probably also the hardest to find.
    Steve
  • A PSA 10 Jordan is now only a few years away from being a $20,000 card.
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Have you thought of diversifying and having more cards to look at in the meantime until you unload? Can get both a PSA 8 and 9 Jordan, plus a nice Mick and even a Ruth or Cobb card, or whomever is your favorite star. Shoeless Joe is out of the question at that price point but can definitely get a great assortment that gives variety when you look at your cards as well as good bets monetarily. >>



    Absolutely and the Jordan is one of the few modern cards I will collect for various reasons. My want list currently consists of several nice Mantle's including a few 1956's that are nicely centered in PSA 8 and possibly lower grades if they have good eye appeal, several 1956 stars like Aaron, Mays, Clemente, Robinson, Williams... Also looking to pick up a 1953 Mantle and Mays that are well centered in a PSA 6 or 7 - 8's are getting up into the $13-20k range, and I can find one close to that from an eye appeal standpoint for about $2500-4000. Old days it was about buying the grade, but these days I focus on the card and not the holder - have picked up some nice PSA 6's of Clemente and Williams for under $300 from 1956 that are a fraction of what they would be in an 8 and just as nice.
  • shu4040shu4040 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭
    I think 9s, there are sooooo many 8s out there. here's mine btw:

    [URL=http://s653.photobucket.com/user/shu4040/media/mj_zps603ba3a7.jpg.html]image[/URL]
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    If you buy the card with the higher grade, you are making two bets: First, you are betting on the continued popularity of that player's cards, and second, you are betting on the TPG.

    If you buy the lower grade card, however, a larger % of your money is placed only on the first bet.
  • slum22slum22 Posts: 2,594 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you buy the card with the higher grade, you are making two bets: First, you are betting on the continued popularity of that player's cards, and second, you are betting on the TPG.

    If you buy the lower grade card, however, a larger % of your money is placed only on the first bet. >>



    This is a fantastic observation and very true. Just look at the difference between BGS 9.5 values in comparison to PSA 10 values over the last decade. I would bet that for the most part PSA has outperformed BGS greatly over that time period. Whether that pattern holds in the future is another question.
    Steve
  • KendallCatKendallCat Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think 9s, there are sooooo many 8s out there. here's mine btw:

    [URL=http://s653.photobucket.com/user/shu4040/media/mj_zps603ba3a7.jpg.html]image[/URL] >>



    Thanks for the note and beautiful card btw. I had a very strong Jordan years ago that came from a local guy that had cases and cases of them and believe he still has some. Got mine graded by PSA and it came back with a strong grade as well, and eventually sold it when I got out of cards for a while. Now getting back in and having to buy a few, and will be looking to pick some up like the one picture which is very strong.
  • markmacmarkmac Posts: 412 ✭✭✭
    I bought a strongly centered 8 in 1998 for $1033. It should bump to at least an 8.5. 9s were going for around $2700 to 3000. So 15 years later the 8's have gotten back to the price I paid. The 1961 Chamberlain, West, Robertson, Baylor rookies have all grown in value since I bought those in the early 2000's. I think vintage will gain you more money in the long run.
  • shu4040shu4040 Posts: 982 ✭✭✭
    Thanks Kendall,

    I will say also to buy the best in 9s that you see. there are some 9s out there that really look closer to 8s, and some 9s closer to 10s. There are a lot of 9s out there, so you can be selective with the ones you buy.
  • Nice left right centering on the Jordan Psa 9
    Ending with 635.
  • Nice left right centering.
  • iconic card....9 or greater if you want an "investment."
  • 9 hands down. This shouldn't even be a question.
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