Ha, surely some other idiot won't outbid him... >>
The person who bid $9999 was trying to sabotage the auction to protect others from getting ripped off. I can guarantee you that the bidder is not an idiot and that he has no intent to buy this coin.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
Ha, surely some other idiot won't outbid him... >>
The person who bid $9999 was trying to sabotage the auction to protect others from getting ripped off. I can guarantee you that the bidder is not an idiot and that he has no intent to buy this coin. >>
Perry, let the masses think the buyer (current high bidder, rather) is an idiot…. Let's not ruin the fun
<< <i>what was wrong with the auction and why does this stuff get some members so worked up?? >>
Nothing was wrong with the auction. It was shocking that someone could get a hundred per ounce on silver no matter how it was produced or where it's housed.
<< <i>what was wrong with the auction and why does this stuff get some members so worked up?? >>
My question as well...the auction pictures plainly showed exactly what he was selling. >>
Coin was a copy of a Morgan Dollar. They are not allowed to be sold on Ebay.
It would be a stretch to call this a medal, does not even have the proper alignment. >>
I wasn't aware that Ebay had disallowed copies which followed the HPA requirements. As for calling it a medal, I don't see where anyone would have been confused.
Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
File down the word copy and the S mint mark....and you have a somewhat nice looking DCAM 1893 proof Morgan....at least on the obverse. Then again, the person that made the dies could certainly have made it without the word "copy" and with or without the "s" mint mark.
<< <i>I wasn't aware that Ebay had disallowed copies which followed the HPA requirements. >>
Many Chinese sellers were offering properly marked copies, but shipping them without the designation. Hundreds of listings for key dates were clogging up the search feature.
Lots of problems, so at the urging of a well known PNG member, they dropped the category.
I checked his auctions, there might be some good buys. I had forgotten about him for awhile and now booked marked his auctions. Some interesting stuff like RB Indians 64 RB currently at $1.06 cents in NNC holders - might bid on them. 577 coins all his auctions, but only 23 PCGS. Lots of other coins in NNC holders. Any luck on his raw coins? I know of a guy who buys coins in his NNC holders if cheap, puts in his self slabs at same grade, puts CW price on them. "At least I don't grade higher than him lol." he says. "They make my table at a show look good and occasionally sell." I like a number of his coins, may bid on them.
Since they pulled the auction mentioned by the op, I did not have chance to examine coin and have no opinion.
I have done business with Centles and if a good deal will go for it. I think I bought some coins in ACG holders from him awhile back as the deal was right.
It would be a stretch to call this a medal, does not even have the proper alignment.
"medal" alignment and "coin" alignment are terms of convenience and mean very little with regard to what something is, a medal or a coin. many countries strike their coinage in what we would call "medal alignment" and there are enough medals which have "coin alignment" to illustrate this misconception; even Silver rounds come both ways. the sticking point of "no copy sales on eBay" is contentious at best since they don't really enforce it in any strict manner. further, I doubt anyone would be confused about this and what it is but if it makes you guys feel as though you are providing some public service and protection for Hobbyists then I suppose you should petition eBay as you did with this item.
I would be careful, though, if anyone posts a DC item for sale at eBay --- I would expect you guys to be all over that and to report it to eBay. not doing so might make you look like nothing but a bunch of Hypocrites.
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thanks for sharing that one CAF
i'm speechless from having seen that.
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<< <i>Some idiot just bid $9999. >>
Ha, surely some other idiot won't outbid him... >>
The person who bid $9999 was trying to sabotage the auction to protect others from getting ripped off. I can guarantee you that the bidder is not an idiot and that he has no intent to buy this coin.
Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.
"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value---zero."----Voltaire
"Everything you say should be true, but not everything true should be said."----Voltaire
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<< <i>Some idiot just bid $9999. >>
Ha, surely some other idiot won't outbid him... >>
The person who bid $9999 was trying to sabotage the auction to protect others from getting ripped off. I can guarantee you that the bidder is not an idiot and that he has no intent to buy this coin. >>
Perry, let the masses think the buyer (current high bidder, rather) is an idiot…. Let's not ruin the fun
<< <i>It shouldn't go unnoticed that a grading service put this crap into a slab further legitimizing the auction.
I thought that slab was his own as most of his questionable qoins are in those slabs.
<< <i>what was wrong with the auction and why does this stuff get some members so worked up?? >>
My question as well...the auction pictures plainly showed exactly what he was selling.
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<< <i>It shouldn't go unnoticed that a grading service put this crap into a slab further legitimizing the auction.
I thought that slab was his own as most of his questionable qoins are in those slabs. >>
NNC has been around a while. I have actually seen them set up at shows.
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<< <i>what was wrong with the auction and why does this stuff get some members so worked up?? >>
My question as well...the auction pictures plainly showed exactly what he was selling. >>
Coin was a copy of a Morgan Dollar. They are not allowed to be sold on Ebay.
It would be a stretch to call this a medal, does not even have the proper alignment.
<< <i>what was wrong with the auction and why does this stuff get some members so worked up?? >>
Nothing was wrong with the auction. It was shocking that someone could get a hundred per ounce on silver no matter how it was produced or where it's housed.
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<< <i>what was wrong with the auction and why does this stuff get some members so worked up?? >>
My question as well...the auction pictures plainly showed exactly what he was selling. >>
Coin was a copy of a Morgan Dollar. They are not allowed to be sold on Ebay.
It would be a stretch to call this a medal, does not even have the proper alignment. >>
I wasn't aware that Ebay had disallowed copies which followed the HPA requirements. As for calling it a medal, I don't see where anyone would have been confused.
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<< <i>what was wrong with the auction and why does this stuff get some members so worked up?? >>
My question as well...the auction pictures plainly showed exactly what he was selling. >>
Copy sales are no longer allowed on Ebay.
<< <i>a well known self-slabber with a clearly marked bullion item and the lynch-mob is out!!!
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<< <i>I wasn't aware that Ebay had disallowed copies which followed the HPA requirements. >>
Many Chinese sellers were offering properly marked copies, but shipping them without the designation. Hundreds of listings for key dates were clogging up the search feature.
Lots of problems, so at the urging of a well known PNG member, they dropped the category.
Since they pulled the auction mentioned by the op, I did not have chance to examine coin and have no opinion.
I have done business with Centles and if a good deal will go for it. I think I bought some coins in ACG holders from him awhile back as the deal was right.
"medal" alignment and "coin" alignment are terms of convenience and mean very little with regard to what something is, a medal or a coin. many countries strike their coinage in what we would call "medal alignment" and there are enough medals which have "coin alignment" to illustrate this misconception; even Silver rounds come both ways. the sticking point of "no copy sales on eBay" is contentious at best since they don't really enforce it in any strict manner. further, I doubt anyone would be confused about this and what it is but if it makes you guys feel as though you are providing some public service and protection for Hobbyists then I suppose you should petition eBay as you did with this item.
I would be careful, though, if anyone posts a DC item for sale at eBay --- I would expect you guys to be all over that and to report it to eBay. not doing so might make you look like nothing but a bunch of Hypocrites.