Friend is looking for a Julius Caesar, opinions on this piece

Jinx86

He found this one that he thinks might go for cheap. I dont do many ancients so wanted the experts view on this type. He really wants one with the portrait.
Im a fan of CNG so had him looking there.

http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=270497

NiceCurrency

define cheap, I paid and in my and others opinions it was a deal, $565 for

the one linked is a really nice coin that is worth several thousand dollars

SmEagle1795

The banker's mark on the CNG coin doesn't distract me too badly but the surfaces and cleaning are troublesome in my opinion. It may indeed end up going cheaply but personally I'd pass on it and spend a bit more for a nicer example.

determined

I agree with SmEagle1795. The surfaces are unattractive and look really scrubbed. Which also means it will be harder for your friend to sell when the time comes.
I would save the money and wait for a better one.

lordmarcovan

<< <i>define cheap, I paid and in my and others opinions it was a deal, $565 for this guy

the one linked is a really nice coin that is worth several thousand dollars >>



NC.. I thought you were gonna link up the JC you bought from me, but you linked up your Octavian/Augustus?

Edit- never mind- he fixed his post while I typed this reply. Yep, that's the coin.


I believe this coin is the one NiceCurrency intended to post. It cost me just a tiny bit below $500 before slabbing, which is as close to a "cheap" Julius Caesar as you'll find, probably, if you want a coin issued during his lifetime, with his portrait. As a smaller-budget collector than some who have posted here, I had to compromise. That coin was well worn with bankers' marks, but had a clear portrait and name on it so I was happy to get it (as was NiceCurrency, later.)

So you can see, JC does not come cheaply. If your friend has the budget to go for something nicer than the one I posted, good for him, but I thought I'd show what an acceptable "cheap" one looks like.

Andres

ex-jewelry - filed edge = normally a big no-no , but I like this Julius Caeser coin very much,
it has great eye appeal imho .
price is the big issue, considering the 15% buyers fee, $500 - $600 sounds OK.

NiceCurrency

bizarre, it shows as the JC for me

CIVITAS

With the boldness of portrait and the nice centering, I think the CNG coin is going to top $1000.00 even with its flaws.

Jinx86

I gave him the link to this thread and have him making up his mind now.

I told him if I wanted a Julius Caesar I would bid on this, to what point that depends on how bad I wanted one.


Ill have to make a thread with pic of my ancients......which I don't collect. I accumulate.

NiceCurrency

lot was around $2k and got withdrawn... counterfeit?

TIF2

I didn't watch a this closed but as NiceCurrency said, when last checked the bidding was near $2k. It now shows as withdrawn. Interesting.

SmEagle1795

It was indeed found to be counterfeit. See this thread on Forvm

NiceCurrency

scary

bronzemat

The fakes are getting better and better.

CIVITAS

Yikes. That one is certainly going in the photo file.

CIVITAS

For quick reference here in this thread:

NiceCurrency

looking at it now the face of caesar is very strange, it's very different from any real coin, look at all the JC coins by moneyer M. Mettius on CNGs archives, none look like this

Curtis Clay on FORVM makes a really good point saying something to the effect of "we see this coin on CNG a reputable seller and don't really think twice about its authenticity"