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PSA/DNA sub opinions

Hi guys, I'm relatively new to the board. There's an amazing wealth of knowledge on this board, so I was hoping you all would be able to help me decide if I should sub two cards to PSA/DNA.

The first is Gordie Howe
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The second is a Jagr TTM I got back in the mid 90s. It came back QA from Raidersguy's last sub, but I wanted to know if it was worth resubmitting. I know churchiscool asked to see a pic in the group sub thread. Here it is:
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Thank you for reading.

Comments

  • Howe no good
  • Blast! I knew the Howe was too good to be true. Thanks for weighing in.
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 9,545 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The Howe almost looks like "Sandra" Howe.
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  • The Gordie Howe looks like the one from the Sylvania , Ohio address . I have a 1979 Topps that I got back signed from that address. Gordie's son Murray Howe sent back a slip of paper wanting a donation for the autograph . I have doubts that it is Gordie's signature. I think Murray Howe or someone at the address may be ghosting for Gordie . I've never seen Gordie with that long a bar on the "D".
  • That's the address I used for Howe. I thought it looked less shaky than the private signing pics I've seen recently so I had my doubts, but I haven't seen anyone flag the address for a ghost signer yet.

    Anybody have thoughts on the Jagr? Is it autopen? I thought it looked close enough to a preprint I got back from the Devils last year that it was real.
  • MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭
    I wouldn't submit the Jagr. One of the characteristics of Jagr's autograph is that his J's are almost always a little different size and usually different a bit in style and here it looks like there was some effort to make them the same. Also the sharp upstroke at the end doesn't look right either.

    It just isn't worth the risk as Jagr is not exactly a difficult autograph to obtain.
  • This is the info I am looking for. You guys are the best. Thanks.
  • The Big O is real . I sent a 1969 Topps to Oscar Robertson and he signed it and it passed looks like yours. Definitely real . Robertson is fairly tough TTM especially the last few years.
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