Could one of the Bust Half experts attribute this 1827 please.

Goldbully

Please tell me it's an O-124.

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astrorat

After a brief review, it looks like it may be an O-124a.

Caveat: I did not exclude other die marriages, but just quickly compared the coin to the poor images in the 4th edition of Overton.

LoveMyLiberty

I would concur that it is an O-125 due to the lowest
curl over the 7 extends to the right side of the 2 .

Is there any evidence of a diagonal line through the
T in LIBERTY from the lower left base to the upper
right serif ?

BustHalfBrian

Your coin is a VLDS O.125. Notice stars 8-13 in relation to the denticles. I should also add that even in the earliest die-state, the obverse die of O.124 shows no traces of milling, while the reverse will show full, strong milling (this is because the reverse die was in its infancy, while the obverse die was being recycled).

This was a tricky one. Send it to NGC and they might attribute it as O.124

astrorat

Deleted so not to add to any confusion.

Barndog

Anyone using Peterson's book for this attribution?

mozin

<< <i>I would concur that it is an O-125 due to the lowest
curl over the 7 extends to the right side of the 2 .
>>




This is exactly what I note in order to call it O-125.

Goldbully

Realone, astrorat, LoveMyLiberty, BustHalfBrian, and mozin thanks so much.
You guys really are amazing with your knowledge of this wonderful series.
What exactly is lack of milling? Are you referring to the lack of denticles?

Is there any evidence of a diagonal line through the T in Liberty?
She's in the SDB, but I will check that out this week.

This was a tricky one. Send it to NGC and they might attribute it as O.124

lkeigwin

Goldbully's coin has been True View imaged so very large images are available here.

The coin is too worn to see the diagonal die line through the T in LIBERTY. It might appear with different lighting.

For any skeptics who are not convinced, here is OP's coin overlaid with known O.125 and O.124 marriages, respectively. Alignment was done with what was hubbed.
Lance.

astrorat

Great ... looks like it is an O-125.

Thanks, Lance.

mozin

Thanks Lance. One might think you were Nuts about Bust Half Dollars.

lava

Lance, if I could overlay coins or shoot photos like you, I'd get nothing done. As it is I get nothing done, but at least if I had your talents I'd have an excuse.

Goldbully

<< <i>Goldbully's coin has been True View imaged so very large images are available here.

The coin is too worn to see the diagonal die line through the T in LIBERTY. It might appear with different lighting.

For any skeptics who are not convinced, here is OP's coin overlaid with known O.125 and O.124 marriages, respectively. Alignment was done with what was hubbed.
Lance.



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Lance, your expertise and photography skills have never been more appreciated.
Your post is one of the nicest replies I have ever had on these forums.
Your animated 1827 CBH gif had to take quite a bit of your time......thanks so much.
It appears mozin was right.

GB

lkeigwin

I'm sorry it didn't turn out to be the O.124, Goldbully. I went down that road a little while back. I returned the coin but I was still intrigued so I spent a little time on this one. Still, it's a very nice bust half. You have a good eye. And at least a few halves I still want. Don't forget.

Lava, you are a hoot. I want to meet up with you at a show sometime. And then buy you a couple of beers. Maybe we can get in trouble together.

Mozin...what can I say? You are my mentor. The reason I am a BHNC member. I have a lot more to learn from you so keep the tips coming. I need to pay more attention to the date.

Then there's BustHalfBrian. When I saw your post I knew there was no point in looking further. I'd trust you to attribute my entire collection.
Lance.

Goldbully

<< <i>Anyone using Peterson's book for this attribution? >>



Second request for Barndog.

Thank you.

lkeigwin

I have Glenn's book and it is a work of passion. Very impressive. He put his heart into it.

But I rarely use it. I've never gotten stuck at a point where I needed to check another source.
Lance.

Barndog

Glenn once showed me how he likes to use his book. He will study a certain date, for example, right before a show, then examine every coin of that date on the bourse floor. I witnessed it at a medium-sized show in San Antonio one year. I forget the year he studied for the show, but do recall he found an R-5 at the show (cherried). It's the only half dollar book I own.

astrorat

I use Glenn's book a lot, but it is difficult for me to use with photographs unless the diagnostics are readily visible.

Goldbully

Thanks for sharing Glenn's book Barndog, Lance, and astrorat.

Is this book available anywhere on the Internet?

BustHalfBrian

<< <i>
Is this book available anywhere on the Internet? >>



Not that I know of, unfortunately. But if you find one let me know because I still don't own a copy.

lkeigwin

I got mine from Glenn directly, at a show. I see Rich Uhrich has them for sale. See here.
Lance.

Barndog

I got my book from Rich Uhrich.

maibockaddict

Here is an earlier die state for O-125. I need to add some sorting diagnostics to my site to help wade through years like 1827 and narrow things down for all trying to ID these. Here is a linky to O-124 as well.

1827 O-125
1827 O-124

lordmarcovan

Wow, that animated gif really messed with my head.

Cool, though.

OKbustchaser

Lower grades, and scans to boot, but (at least to me) easier to see the differences in the lower curl than with Lance's overlay.

maibockaddict

Hey guys, I added an 1827 Square 2 T-I alignment page. Do you think this will help?

1827 T-I Alignments

Goldbully

<< <i>Hey guys, I added an 1827 Square 2 T-I alignment page. Do you think this will help?

1827 T-I Alignments >>



Wow, what a great reference, Dave.
You did a lot of work putting your CBH die marriages/states Website together.
Thank you very much.

A must bookmark!

coin22lover

Stars 6/7 are further apart on the 124. Here's a 124 I have laying around:

maibockaddict

Thanks for the compliment Goldbully!

On another note, the obverse for the O-124 was first used on the O-135, then used again after O-124 on once again, the O-135. here is my 135 showing an even later die state of Obverse 17

1827 O-135

johnny9434

nice bustie in any case