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MapleleafMapleleaf Posts: 506 ✭
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This card just arrived and I don't think it should have received a 10 due to the large print runs on the back plus there are print dots on the front right after the and on the "s".
I'm not sure why I didn't see them before buying the card but it's a card that I've wanted for some time. In hand, I find them distracting.
Plus, the edges are smooth. I was looking at those in the pic but you can't see that until the card is in hand.

Lemieux OPC

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  • CSUrunandstunCSUrunandstun Posts: 573 ✭✭✭
    So, you got the card for $480.00 LESS than the BIN....with a perfectly good scan (edges crystal clear...print imperfections highly visible) ...not really sure you have anyone to blame/thank but yourself. Maybe find another one you like better and then resell this one?
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  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭
    while i agree it should have never made it into a 10 holder, the print dots are right there in the pictures

    if he sent you exactly what's shown, it's kind of on you for not adjusting your offer isn't it?

    i know that's probably not what you want to hear, but seems like this mistake belongs to you and not the seller

    "i didn't look close enough at the pictures" really shouldn't be a good reason to get your money back - sometimes you just gotta own it

    that's my take anyway
  • vladguerrerovladguerrero Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭
    i would keep it... its still a nice card, you can potentially upgrade later, you never know maybe the other 10s are worse. either way i dont think it's the sellers fault and not fair to return.
  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭
    here's how i always think about these things

    if this was YOUR auction, would you be ok giving someone their money back?
  • MapleleafMapleleaf Posts: 506 ✭
    Yeah, my bad for not seeing the marks but sometimes you just trust the 10.

    The real issue is the edges - once in hand they are razor sharp - not typical OPC as per the description.
  • MapleleafMapleleaf Posts: 506 ✭


    << <i>here's how i always think about these things

    if this was YOUR auction, would you be ok giving someone their money back? >>



    Always - no questions asked.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭
    the real fun lies in the journey, not the destination! (doesn't look like you've reached your destination yet)

    or

    always look on the bright side of life! (insert whistles)
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    i was equally as devastated after i got married and discovered that my new wife had a zit.
  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Back of the card wouldn't bother me at all.
    Front though. Wow that would have kept me from being a buyer with my OCD. Pluses and minuses of PSA OCD image
    However, had the dots somehow slipped by me, in looking at the whole of the card, I tend to agree with a poster above. It's still a nice card overall. Maybe not the best of the 10's but who knows what some of the other 10's look like.
    I'd hold for now, if it were my card.
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    Sounds like buyer's remorse. Keep it and chalk it up as lessons learned.
  • begsu1013begsu1013 Posts: 1,943 ✭✭


    << <i>i was equally as devastated after i got married and discovered that my new wife had a zit. >>



    hilarious!
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,438 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Returns:
    14 day money back, buyer pays return shipping |     >>

    If you really hate the card? Why not contact the seller and exercise the return policy?

    I don't have any 10s in my collection. To be honest? I would be more than satisfied with a really nice 9.

    BTW, I think it's a really nice card you picked up. Plus, you got a hefty discount.

    What does the 10 usually go for - on average?
    Mike
  • gameusedhoopgameusedhoop Posts: 3,592 ✭✭✭✭
    The zoomed in scan is at what about 200% of the card's actual size? And you couldn't see any OPC rough cut in it, but you thought when you had it in hand it would appear by some miracle? Really? I have to agree with the majority of the others here, it is all on you, not the seller. You received what you saw and paid for. Sorry to be so harsh, but there is nothing hidden here by the seller.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The zoomed in scan is at what about 200% of the card's actual size? And you couldn't see any OPC rough cut in it, but you thought when you had it in hand it would appear by some miracle? Really? I have to agree with the majority of the others here, it is all on you, not the seller. You received what you saw and paid for. Sorry to be so harsh, but there is nothing hidden here by the seller. >>



    The seller does state that it does have the natural OPC edges in the auction, but based on the images, no.
  • MikeyPMikeyP Posts: 990 ✭✭✭
    Wow. Did I miss something? Where exactly did Maple Leaf say that he wanted his money back? I agree that the print dots are a distraction, but it is still a very nice card, and I do not think that it is absolutely unworthy of a grade of GEM-MT 10. It is a very nice card Maple Leaf. Chill out everybody.
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  • MapleleafMapleleaf Posts: 506 ✭
    Not buyers remorse, more like not totally happy with the grade PSA assigned and I'm questioning wether it should have been graded in the first place.

    I'm not sure what it sells for usually. I would expect somewhere in the $700 to $1100 range so I think the selling price was decent.
    Getting my money back from the seller is not really a concern although if it had been at a card show, I would have seen the edges and not bought it.
    Again, my bad for knowingly taking a chance on the card with the edges.

    I'm leaning towards sending it to PSA for grade confirmation but I'm not sure how they would deal with it.
  • MikeyPMikeyP Posts: 990 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not buyers remorse, more like not totally happy with the grade PSA assigned and I'm questioning wether it should have been graded in the first place. >>



    That is how I understood your question. No need to explain yourself.
    "Nobody's ever gone the distance with Creed, and if I can go that distance, you see, and that bell rings and I'm still standin', I'm gonna know for the first time in my life, see, that I weren't just another bum from the neighborhood."
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭
    Doesn't matter how well a seller scans and uploads images, the item can always appear different in person.

    I think you have a beautiful pickup and it's definitely worthy of the PSA 10 holder as it fits within the guidelines for the grade.

    I've handled thousands of this OPC issue and can tell you that MANY have four smooth edges.

    Coming here to ask for opinions and share experiences with cards is what this forum is supposed to be about.

    Again, beautiful pickup!!
  • MULLINS5MULLINS5 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    << <i>here's how i always think about these things

    if this was YOUR auction, would you be ok giving someone their money back? >>



    Yes.

    If the seller has any integrity they would honor their return policy, regardless of what the reason is.
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,981 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As it has been stated, every OPC card does not have a rough cut. I would rather have one without the rough cut.

    Does card deserve a 10? Hard to say, looks beautiful from the front. According to PSA's grading standards a 10 can have a print imperfection as long as "it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card". Looks like we are getting into a subjective area here, if the print "dot" is on the players face, I wouldn't like it. It's not too noticeable on this card, but once you see it it does kind of jump out at you.

    Plenty of 10's in 9 holders and plenty of 9's in 10 holders. It has been said many times here, "buy the card not the holder".

    Seller has a return policy, if you don't like the card once it is in hand, I guess you should simply return it.
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  • RyanAdmirerRyanAdmirer Posts: 632 ✭✭


    << <i>As it has been stated, every OPC card does not have a rough cut. I would rather have one without the rough cut.

    Does card deserve a 10? Hard to say, looks beautiful from the front. According to PSA's grading standards a 10 can have a print imperfection as long as "it doesn't impair the overall appeal of the card". Looks like we are getting into a subjective area here, if the print "dot" is on the players face, I wouldn't like it. It's not too noticeable on this card, but once you see it it does kind of jump out at you.

    Plenty of 10's in 9 holders and plenty of 9's in 10 holders. It has been said many times here, "buy the card not the holder".

    Seller has a return policy, if you don't like the card once it is in hand, I guess you should simply return it. >>



    I don't think I could have put it any better. #1, if I had sold this card and the buyer had a complaint that the edges weren't rough enough I would be concerned that the buyer was on crack. #2, the print dot is visible in the scan, so it's kind of on the buyer but if he wants to return it as a seller you really have no option to say "no". It is what it is....you sell on Ebay you gotta be prepared for something like this to happen. You get it back, relist it, and hopefully get a better offer than you had before.

    If I were the buyer I'd keep it. It's a beautiful card and I think you got a good price on it.
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  • bouncebounce Posts: 1,094 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>here's how i always think about these things
    if this was YOUR auction, would you be ok giving someone their money back? >>


    Yes.
    If the seller has any integrity they would honor their return policy, regardless of what the reason is. >>



    I'm shocked you'd feel this way

    I mean, basically I can't buy anything because I won't pay enough for it, and I can't sell anything because I wouldn't want to offer a refund for an auction with pictures that were fine where the buyer is the one who set the price

    Feel free to just ignore my posts go forward Mullins - I'd appreciate it
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