I took a chance on 86-87 fleer packs...would you have? UPDATE Jordan showing!!
Raulsmaster
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I couldn't pass up the opportunity at this price....I might lose my a*s but it was too tempting. I'm on my phone so if someone could fix the link that'd be great
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Good luck on them - how about a rip thread once they arrive?
What are the other packs??
<< <i>1980-81 Fleer basketball packs. It appears they go for the 5-7 range so I'm gonna be into the 86 packs for about 100 each. I'll have them in the next couple days so we shall see >>
They're worth $500-800 each if they're legit. It would be pretty cool if you got lucky. How are you going to determine their authenticity?
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I believe that if you open the packs it will be apparent if they are legit as 86-87 BKB packs are strictly sequenced.
I don't collect BKB, but I knwo some here do know sequencing down pat.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>1980-81 Fleer basketball packs. It appears they go for the 5-7 range so I'm gonna be into the 86 packs for about 100 each. I'll have them in the next couple days so we shall see >>
They're worth $500-800 each if they're legit. It would be pretty cool if you got lucky. How are you going to determine their authenticity? >>
I'd determine authenticity of these packs by ripping. Good luck!
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Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>For me, personally, those stickers would be a bit of a red flag to get you NOT to open the packs. I would submit them to PSA because if authentic that would provide your greatest return value. I don't believe Steve will wrap individual wax packs anymore, due to his contractual arrangement with PSA, though I could be wrong about that. Good luck! >>
I think he will wrap the pair. I know I had to jump in with a second '75 mini the last group buy so that I could get them wrapped. I did, so the 2 packs are wrapped together.
Edit: to add that I think he will state that a Jordan sticker is showing and that I completely agree these should stay closed. Of course they are your packs and the more that get ripped, the more valuable mine becomes. Enjoy it either way.
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<< <i>The seller wasn't experienced with sportscards at all. If you look at the listing he doesn't even know what he had. I'm a veteran when it comes to packs and these are as legit as they come. I'm not worried about the authenticity one iota >>
I dunno. For someone that isn't experienced with sportscards at all, he sure is selling and buying an awful lot of them
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<< <i>I dunno. For someone that isn't experienced with sportscards at all, he sure is selling and buying an awful lot of them >>
If he was experienced in sports cards he would have at least mentioned there were two $500 packs in the lot.
This was a novice seller who had some very nice items and didn't even know it.
Send the packs to Steve and see what he says.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss
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<< <i>I dunno. For someone that isn't experienced with sportscards at all, he sure is selling and buying an awful lot of them >>
If he was experienced in sports cards he would have at least mentioned there were two $500 packs in the lot.
This was a novice seller who had some very nice items and didn't even know it.
Send the packs to Steve and see what he says. >>
This is very true. And that's also why I think it was worth the risk by the buyer. The auction would've looked/been completely different if the seller would have been more knowledgeable.
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<< <i>PSA all the way. Congrats on the pickup. >>
^^^^^^^
If the Jordan pack gets a 10 your looking at thousands of dollars. It may take awhile but PSA is the way to go.
<< <i>BBCE may authenticate them by wrapping BOTH of them together in shrinkwrap. Not sure if they are still doing this or not. May want to contact them and see if they would do that for you. Typically the authentication fee is 5% of market price. >>
From what I understand, Steve will not authenticate packs in any way due to his contract with PSA. I have a few packs of the 86/87 Fleer and when I sent some other stuff to him, he told me that he was not able to authenticate individual packs
Sounds like a good score.
Others have faked this pack.
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<< <i>As mentioned. The packs are good. I've been handling packs for over 20 years. It's more about how long I feel like waiting, cost, resale etc. I'm not very patient but if it's gonna be worth a few hundred more it may be the way to go >>
If you're impatient, send the packs to Steve Hart. If he says they are good, I'll send you $1000 and Steve can send the packs to me. I'll keep the Jordan one and rip the other for the board to see.
1 1 23477695 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1986 Fleer Basketball Wax Pack Wax Pack Johnson Sticker-Back Pack
1 2 23477696 NEAR MINT 7 1986 Fleer Basketball Wax Pack Wax Pack Jordan Sticker-Back Card
Something must have happened during transport as the Jordan was a better looking pack that the other but at least they're authentic
To help with the math...this is how I would look at it...
Cost: $250 purchase + $90 grading fees (estimate) = $340
Current Value: Jordan Pack estimate $800 + Johnson Pack estimate $600 = $1,400 less 10% cost to resell = $1,260
Profit: $920
Of course, that doesn't count Raulsmaster's time spent on the packs. I'd value his time at $299/hour.
You took a shot and hit a HR!
I like when this happens.
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
When are you ever going to get a chance at that again realistically?
<< <i>You should open the Magic - pull a Jordan RC out of that and you can improve your return
When are you ever going to get a chance at that again realistically? >>
Or to sleep with a Portegues waitress??
Congratulations.
fwiw and to answer your original question. I wouldn't have bought the packs. I'm a scaredy cat.
<< <i>You should open the Magic - pull a Jordan RC out of that and you can improve your return
When are you ever going to get a chance at that again realistically? >>
That's not a bad idea considering the other pack covers all his costs, etc... plus some. It's basically a free rip, plus I really want to see him hit.
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