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New Pop-Report search not user-friendly
sportscardtheory
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If I want to say, see which Randy Johnson RC has the lowest Pop, it's now a monumental pain in the butt. You now have to click on every single card you want to see the Pop of, in increments of only 25, instead of having all the info on all cards on one easy to see page. Great job, PSA. I have wanted changes to their search for a long time, but I wanted it to be better, not much worse.
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<< <i>I don't understand why anybody would even need to search the POP the way you're searching. >>
For myself at least, and likely other player collectors, the full search was used to find oddball items that I wasn't even aware existed.
<< <i>I don't understand why anybody would even need to search the POP the way you're searching. I would have to think that when most people use the Pop for somebody like Chipper Jones, they're looking for the Pop on one specific card. It sounds like you want to enter Chipper Jones, and then have a list of every Chipper Jones card come up. The old way would take a very long time for the list to come up and then you'd have to page through thousands of cards looking for the one or two cards you want to know the pop on. With the new way, for example if you're looking for the pop on a 2004 Chipper Jones 390, all you have to search for is Chipper Jones 390 and it instantly comes back with that card and all its variations at the top of the list of the 25 it displays. >>
People use information to make purchases or just to be informed. What's the lowest Pop Albert Pujols RC? Simple question, should be a simple answer. Now it is virtually impossible to find out. Not every single person only looks up cards they already own and have right in front of their faces or already have info on.
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<< <i>I don't understand why anybody would even need to search the POP the way you're searching. I would have to think that when most people use the Pop for somebody like Chipper Jones, they're looking for the Pop on one specific card. It sounds like you want to enter Chipper Jones, and then have a list of every Chipper Jones card come up. The old way would take a very long time for the list to come up and then you'd have to page through thousands of cards looking for the one or two cards you want to know the pop on. With the new way, for example if you're looking for the pop on a 2004 Chipper Jones 390, all you have to search for is Chipper Jones 390 and it instantly comes back with that card and all its variations at the top of the list of the 25 it displays. >>
People use information to make purchases or just to be informed. What's the lowest Pop Albert Pujols RC? Simple question, should be a simple answer. Now it is virtually impossible to find out. Not every single person only looks up cards they already own and have right in front of their faces or already have info on. >>
Nice!!
<< <i>I don't understand why anybody would even need to search the POP the way you're searching. I would have to think that when most people use the Pop for somebody like Chipper Jones, they're looking for the Pop on one specific card. It sounds like you want to enter Chipper Jones, and then have a list of every Chipper Jones card come up. The old way would take a very long time for the list to come up and then you'd have to page through thousands of cards looking for the one or two cards you want to know the pop on. With the new way, for example if you're looking for the pop on a 2004 Chipper Jones 390, all you have to search for is Chipper Jones 390 and it instantly comes back with that card and all its variations at the top of the list of the 25 it displays.[/
I searched this way all the time. This change is beyond stupid.
It seems as though PSA has made the same faulty assumptions that you did, but you're both wrong. Many sellers and some buyers use the pop report to find every card of a given player. If I have a buyer that pays strongly for Dave Kingman cards, I'm going to want a list of all Kingman cards and their pops so I know which ones are the toughest. That's impossible with the current search, I have to look them up one by one. If I'm a collector just starting a new registry, I'm going to want to see a compiled list of the pops of every one of that player's cards so I know which ones are the toughest; otherwise I'm going to have to pull up the Master List in the registry and look up every card one by one. Hardly an efficient way of doing it when the functionality once existed to see a complete list all at once.
If you want to find the pop on a specific card you just go into the Pop Report > Baseball > 1991 > Bowman and find the Chipper card- that's the way most of us do it. Now they have a search function that is basically just a shortcut way of doing that, which is fine but should've been built as a separate search function instead of a replacement for a really useful tool. Now there's no way of finding the pops of all cards of a given player.
Lee
<< <i>I don't understand why anybody would even need to search the POP the way you're searching. I would have to think that when most people use the Pop for somebody like Chipper Jones, they're looking for the Pop on one specific card. It sounds like you want to enter Chipper Jones, and then have a list of every Chipper Jones card come up. The old way would take a very long time for the list to come up and then you'd have to page through thousands of cards looking for the one or two cards you want to know the pop on. With the new way, for example if you're looking for the pop on a 2004 Chipper Jones 390, all you have to search for is Chipper Jones 390 and it instantly comes back with that card and all its variations at the top of the list of the 25 it displays.
It seems as though PSA has made the same faulty assumptions that you did, but you're both wrong. Many sellers and some buyers use the pop report to find every card of a given player. If I have a buyer that pays strongly for Dave Kingman cards, I'm going to want a list of all Kingman cards and their pops so I know which ones are the toughest. That's impossible with the current search, I have to look them up one by one. If I'm a collector just starting a new registry, I'm going to want to see a compiled list of the pops of every one of that player's cards so I know which ones are the toughest; otherwise I'm going to have to pull up the Master List in the registry and look up every card one by one. Hardly an efficient way of doing it when the functionality once existed to see a complete list all at once.
If you want to find the pop on a specific card you just go into the Pop Report > Baseball > 1991 > Bowman and find the Chipper card- that's the way most of us do it. Now they have a search function that is basically just a shortcut way of doing that, which is fine but should've been built as a separate search function instead of a replacement for a really useful tool. Now there's no way of finding the pops of all cards of a given player.
Lee >>
For what it's worth I've emailed everyone I've ever dealt with at PSA and expressed this same opinion.
<< <i>I was thinking more in line of how it would be typically used as a collector, not as a dealer looking for anomalies in pops of certain players and cards for resale purposes. If it's widely used in that manner and PSA didn't limit it due to it using an unusually large amount of system resources then I'm sure the suggestions to bring the old way back will be listened to. >>
I'm a collector and I like to have as much info as possible when buying. I'm not saying this to be snarky, but this flawed search will limit my purchases of PSA graded cards immensely. I like to know what Pops are on a lot of cards and making my search to find that info a pain in the butt makes me want to just spend my money elsewhere. It goes for ANY search. How can you find out which 1960's Mickey Mantle has the lowest Pop without spending a ton of time researching before you do a search. This can only hurt the secondary market, which in turn may hurt PSA's bottom line. Who the heck wants to spend an hour doing searches that used to takes minutes.
Nick
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<< <i>If you are going to submit vintage commons and want to know who is low pop and high pop (some guys aren't worth submitting from some late '60s and '70s sets unless they get 10s), the pop report has now become essentially useless to you.
Nick >>
You can buy a Beckett yearly, use it as a reference for cards in a set, then type in each individual card from the set you want info on and then write down on paper the Pops on all the cards so you have that info.
So much easier!
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<< <i>If you are going to submit vintage commons and want to know who is low pop and high pop (some guys aren't worth submitting from some late '60s and '70s sets unless they get 10s), the pop report has now become essentially useless to you.
Nick >>
You can buy a Beckett yearly, use it as a reference for cards in a set, then type in each individual card from the set you want info on and then write down on paper the Pops on all the cards so you have that info.
So much easier! >>
You're joking right?
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<< <i>If you are going to submit vintage commons and want to know who is low pop and high pop (some guys aren't worth submitting from some late '60s and '70s sets unless they get 10s), the pop report has now become essentially useless to you.
Nick >>
You can buy a Beckett yearly, use it as a reference for cards in a set, then type in each individual card from the set you want info on and then write down on paper the Pops on all the cards so you have that info.
So much easier! >>
You're joking right? >>
Of course I was joking.
EDIT - I finally found it. Only took a couple minutes.