Rare 1652 silver threepenny found in English field
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Rare 17th century coin found in English field
<< <i>An extremely rare and well-preserved 17th century coin was found by an amateur treasure hunter last week in a field in Nottinghamshire, England, the Daily Mail reported.
John Stoner, 42, dug up a 1652 silver threepenny coin on Aug. 31, a piece that has been hailed as one of the finest examples of currency produced in the days of the Pilgrim Fathers,
as he ploughed the field in the village of King’s Clipstone.
On Monday, coin expert Peter Spencer confirmed it was a genuine threepenny piece, commissioned and struck in Boston, Mass.
“I handed it over to him and I think it’s fair to say he went white as a ghost,” Stoner said, according to the Daily Mail. “He said its condition was like the day it was struck.”
The single coin is not subject to treasure trove laws that require such finds be reported and handed to Crown officials. The coin is now reportedly in the United States and being
cleaned by an expert before it will be auctioned for sale in London in December.
In 2012, a silver Colonial Massachusetts coin from 1652 that was found in a potato field was auctioned for $430,000. Stoner’s coin could bring in $1.7 million, according to the Mail. >>
<< <i>An extremely rare and well-preserved 17th century coin was found by an amateur treasure hunter last week in a field in Nottinghamshire, England, the Daily Mail reported.
John Stoner, 42, dug up a 1652 silver threepenny coin on Aug. 31, a piece that has been hailed as one of the finest examples of currency produced in the days of the Pilgrim Fathers,
as he ploughed the field in the village of King’s Clipstone.
On Monday, coin expert Peter Spencer confirmed it was a genuine threepenny piece, commissioned and struck in Boston, Mass.
“I handed it over to him and I think it’s fair to say he went white as a ghost,” Stoner said, according to the Daily Mail. “He said its condition was like the day it was struck.”
The single coin is not subject to treasure trove laws that require such finds be reported and handed to Crown officials. The coin is now reportedly in the United States and being
cleaned by an expert before it will be auctioned for sale in London in December.
In 2012, a silver Colonial Massachusetts coin from 1652 that was found in a potato field was auctioned for $430,000. Stoner’s coin could bring in $1.7 million, according to the Mail. >>
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--Severian the Lame
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That is an Oak Tree Threepence (Noe-23, Salmon 1-A), considered to be rarity-6.
A coin in that condition is worth maybe $10,000 to $20,000, depending on what it looks like after it is conserved.
Their estimate of $1,700,000 is a tad bit high, unfortunately.
Just goes to show that our Colonial and Post Colonial coinage did get around to other parts of the world.
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<< <i>While that is a really, really cool find for anyone to make. their estimate of value was -- let's say -- a little bit off.
That is an Oak Tree Threepence (Noe-23, Salmon 1-A), considered to be rarity-6.
A coin in that condition is worth maybe $10,000 to $20,000, depending on what it looks like after it is conserved.
Their estimate of $1,700,000 is a tad bit high, unfortunately. >>
Never let the facts interfere with a good story!
The English article has a very interesting perspective
Yes, there have been high grade coins recovered from sandy neutral soil, especially on the Mid-Atlantic seacoast. Several years ago, a metal detector recovered an almost uncirculated 1795 half dime from above a tidal river bank in South Carolina, at a site that had been previously hunted as a former C.S.A. army camp, but which also came to be recognized as the location of a post colonial settlement. L@@K !
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Although reported in a newspaper, the Brits are quite famous for UNDERSTATING condition. My guess is that the coin was sent here for a more accurate assessment of value and to determine if any conservation might be required. Remember, even the Saddle Ridge gold coins were conserved.
If anything close in condition to as stated, I would be willing to bet this coin fetches substantially more than 20k USD....
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<< <i>A coin in that condition is worth maybe $10,000 to $20,000, depending on what it looks like after it is conserved.
Their estimate of $1,700,000 is a tad bit high, unfortunately. >>
Never let the facts interfere with a good story! >>
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I see that as about as original though dug as you can get.
But I suspect in the hands of a skilled conservator, the devices and fields could be brought back to life.
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<< <i>While that is a really, really cool find for anyone to make. their estimate of value was -- let's say -- a little bit off.
That is an Oak Tree Threepence (Noe-23, Salmon 1-A), considered to be rarity-6.
A coin in that condition is worth maybe $10,000 to $20,000, depending on what it looks like after it is conserved. >>
I was in touch with the owner and told him what this was, and I know others did too, so surely he realizes its actual value by now.
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Some ancient collectors would pay a premium for that kind of look over a cleaned one of the same grade.
Its not like this coin has bronze disease or something that it needs rescuing from.
<< <i>Sorry, but articles like this are suspect at best. Aside from the estimated value being a tad bit off, if the so called coin expert says "its condition was like the day it was struck", why is it "being cleaned by an expert"? And lets be real, does anyone honestly believe a coin would look like the day it was struck after being in the dirt for centuries? >>
In my younger days, I did a ton of metal detecting. Silver comes out of the ground beautiful. Copper, not so much.
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<< <i>While that is a really, really cool find for anyone to make. their estimate of value was -- let's say -- a little bit off.
That is an Oak Tree Threepence (Noe-23, Salmon 1-A), considered to be rarity-6.
A coin in that condition is worth maybe $10,000 to $20,000, depending on what it looks like after it is conserved. >>
I was in touch with the owner and told him what this was, and I know others did too, so surely he realizes its actual value by now. >>
I assume that both of you subscribe to the e-sylum. They ran the story this week and quoted the outrageous estimate. Could one or both of you please drop Wayne a polite letter giving the true value, as you are much more qualified to do so than I.
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Interesting thing is that I don't think THEY quoted a value number....and that's the kind of "wow" information that usually drives local news stories. Either they actually do fact checking, or it was just missing from the information they were given. (I'm not banking on the quality of their fact checking....)
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<< <i>Re the $1.7M - did they think it was Willow Tree instead Oak Tree
Yes.
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<< <i>While that is a really, really cool find for anyone to make. their estimate of value was -- let's say -- a little bit off.
That is an Oak Tree Threepence (Noe-23, Salmon 1-A), considered to be rarity-6.
A coin in that condition is worth maybe $10,000 to $20,000, depending on what it looks like after it is conserved. >>
I was in touch with the owner and told him what this was, and I know others did too, so surely he realizes its actual value by now. >>
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