I knew about the scarcity of the card, but didn't know about the guy that has so many.
Always looking for Mantle cards such as Stahl Meyer, 1954 Dan Dee, 1959 Bazooka, 1960 Post, 1952 Star Cal Decal, 1952 Tip Top Bread Labels, 1953-54 Briggs Meat, and other Topps, Bowman, and oddball Mantles.
Finally, a face to the mystery man. Having built the 64 set, it took little time to discover this anomaly. Why would a minor star would cost so much money? I forget which dealer informed me, but he told me of another dealer to contact in order to obtain a copy of this card. I finally won one on Ebay, but it was after many failures.
My guess at the time, which was confirmed, was Flood was this man's favorite player growing up and buying these cards reminded him of a great summer when he was 9 years old and seeing his beloved Cardinals win a World Series
And in simple math (it may be more than this) let's say he spent 15 years buying this trove and spent a total of 48K (42 per card). If he did that, it is about $10 er week which is certainly an affordable figurer in this hobby
Rich
Plano, Tx. Card Show #5, Sunday March 6, 2016 at Adat Chaverim (Northeast Corner Independence and Spring Creek) in Plano Tx 9Am to 4 PM. See you there!
<< <i>Great read. They should do an article on our friend Evan. Or that MLB relief pitcher who's an avid collector. Who was that? Neshek? >>
Pat Neshek, Phil Hughes, and Brad Ziegler are all avid collectors. >>
Being collectors themselves, are those guys good TTM targets? Anybody know their rate of return? >>
From Pat Nesheks website "If you need anything signed, send items with SASE (stamped envelope) to -
Pat Neshek C/O St. Louis Cardinals 700 Clark St Saint Louis MO 63102-1727 "
Never tried through the mail, but he is always signing at the games and is a hell of a nice guy. He is having a great season for the Cards this year!
And so I am not totally derailing the original topic, I was lucky enough to pick up a nice looking 1964 Curt Flood at a local Antique Mall today for only a couple bucks!
<< <i>Great read. They should do an article on our friend Evan. Or that MLB relief pitcher who's an avid collector. Who was that? Neshek? >>
Pat Neshek, Phil Hughes, and Brad Ziegler are all avid collectors. >>
Being collectors themselves, are those guys good TTM targets? Anybody know their rate of return? >>
From Pat Nesheks website "If you need anything signed, send items with SASE (stamped envelope) to -
Pat Neshek C/O St. Louis Cardinals 700 Clark St Saint Louis MO 63102-1727 "
Never tried through the mail, but he is always signing at the games and is a hell of a nice guy. He is having a great season for the Cards this year!
And so I am not totally derailing the original topic, I was lucky enough to pick up a nice looking 1964 Curt Flood at a local Antique Mall today for only a couple bucks! >>
Sorry, just adding to the derail.
SCN has Phil Hughes at 33%, Pat Neshek at 98% and Brad Ziegler at 95%.
The address for Neshek provided is correct.
Ziegler: Arizona Diamondbacks - Chase Field 401 East Jefferson Street Phoenix, Arizona 85004 USA Hughes: Last success noted was sent to the Yankee's stadium. Probably need a better avenue since he now plays for Minnesota.
Is it possible that there were only 16,000 produced? >>
Prolly more than 16,000 produced. I read it as 16,000 remaining in circulation. >>
Today he owns some 4,000 copies, likely close to a quarter of the population.
Here is the quote. Seems pretty straight forward to me. >>
Current population and original production numbers are not the same thing. I think Joe's conjecture is that quite a few were lost or destroyed in the last 50 years. A valid point with any vintage issue, to be sure.
Is it possible that there were only 16,000 produced? >>
Prolly more than 16,000 produced. I read it as 16,000 remaining in circulation. >>
Today he owns some 4,000 copies, likely close to a quarter of the population.
Here is the quote. Seems pretty straight forward to me. >>
Current population and original production numbers are not the same thing. I think Joe's conjecture is that quite a few were lost or destroyed in the last 50 years. A valid point with any vintage issue, to be sure. >>
This makes sense.
I wonder where they even got that number from. It would seem almost impossible to know how many of each card survived.
I did a quick search looking for production numbers and didn't find anything.
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Always looking for Mantle cards such as Stahl Meyer, 1954 Dan Dee, 1959 Bazooka, 1960 Post, 1952 Star Cal Decal, 1952 Tip Top Bread Labels, 1953-54 Briggs Meat, and other Topps, Bowman, and oddball Mantles.
And in simple math (it may be more than this) let's say he spent 15 years buying this trove and spent a total of 48K (42 per card). If he did that, it is about $10 er week which is certainly an affordable figurer in this hobby
Rich
Is it possible that there were only 16,000 produced?
<< <i>What is his eBay ID?? Is he only buying 8s and better?? >>
Madcardbuyer
It looks like he primarily buys the cheap ungraded ones. I looked at 12 completed auctions, and he bought 7 of them. He got outbid on a few others.
The article says "a low-quality copy of this Curt Flood card sells for about $30", but it's really more like $5.
<< <i>Great story!
Is it possible that there were only 16,000 produced? >>
Prolly more than 16,000 produced. I read it as 16,000 remaining in circulation.
<< <i>Great read. They should do an article on our friend Evan. Or that MLB relief pitcher who's an avid collector. Who was that? Neshek? >>
Pat Neshek, Phil Hughes, and Brad Ziegler are all avid collectors.
Nick
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<< <i>Great read. They should do an article on our friend Evan. Or that MLB relief pitcher who's an avid collector. Who was that? Neshek? >>
Pat Neshek, Phil Hughes, and Brad Ziegler are all avid collectors. >>
Being collectors themselves, are those guys good TTM targets? Anybody know their rate of return?
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<< <i>Great read. They should do an article on our friend Evan. Or that MLB relief pitcher who's an avid collector. Who was that? Neshek? >>
Pat Neshek, Phil Hughes, and Brad Ziegler are all avid collectors. >>
Being collectors themselves, are those guys good TTM targets? Anybody know their rate of return? >>
From Pat Nesheks website "If you need anything signed, send items with SASE (stamped envelope) to -
Pat Neshek C/O St. Louis Cardinals
700 Clark St
Saint Louis MO 63102-1727 "
Never tried through the mail, but he is always signing at the games and is a hell of a nice guy. He is having a great season for the Cards this year!
And so I am not totally derailing the original topic, I was lucky enough to pick up a nice looking 1964 Curt Flood at a local Antique Mall today for only a couple bucks!
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<< <i>Great read. They should do an article on our friend Evan. Or that MLB relief pitcher who's an avid collector. Who was that? Neshek? >>
Pat Neshek, Phil Hughes, and Brad Ziegler are all avid collectors. >>
Being collectors themselves, are those guys good TTM targets? Anybody know their rate of return? >>
From Pat Nesheks website "If you need anything signed, send items with SASE (stamped envelope) to -
Pat Neshek C/O St. Louis Cardinals
700 Clark St
Saint Louis MO 63102-1727 "
Never tried through the mail, but he is always signing at the games and is a hell of a nice guy. He is having a great season for the Cards this year!
And so I am not totally derailing the original topic, I was lucky enough to pick up a nice looking 1964 Curt Flood at a local Antique Mall today for only a couple bucks! >>
Sorry, just adding to the derail.
SCN has Phil Hughes at 33%, Pat Neshek at 98% and Brad Ziegler at 95%.
The address for Neshek provided is correct.
Ziegler: Arizona Diamondbacks - Chase Field 401 East Jefferson Street Phoenix, Arizona 85004 USA
Hughes: Last success noted was sent to the Yankee's stadium. Probably need a better avenue since he now plays for Minnesota.
Justin
Retired - Eddie Mathews Master Registry Set (96.36%) Rank 1
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<< <i>Great story!
Is it possible that there were only 16,000 produced? >>
Prolly more than 16,000 produced. I read it as 16,000 remaining in circulation. >>
Today he owns some 4,000 copies, likely close to a quarter of the population.
Here is the quote. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
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<< <i>Great story!
Is it possible that there were only 16,000 produced? >>
Prolly more than 16,000 produced. I read it as 16,000 remaining in circulation. >>
Today he owns some 4,000 copies, likely close to a quarter of the population.
Here is the quote. Seems pretty straight forward to me. >>
Current population and original production numbers are not the same thing. I think Joe's conjecture is that quite a few were lost or destroyed in the last 50 years. A valid point with any vintage issue, to be sure.
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<< <i>Great story!
Is it possible that there were only 16,000 produced? >>
Prolly more than 16,000 produced. I read it as 16,000 remaining in circulation. >>
Today he owns some 4,000 copies, likely close to a quarter of the population.
Here is the quote. Seems pretty straight forward to me. >>
Current population and original production numbers are not the same thing. I think Joe's conjecture is that quite a few were lost or destroyed in the last 50 years. A valid point with any vintage issue, to be sure. >>
This makes sense.
I wonder where they even got that number from. It would seem almost impossible to know how many of each card survived.
I did a quick search looking for production numbers and didn't find anything.
EBAY sales
There are a decent number of them sold in recent months on EBAY in the $20 to $35 range for raw copies.