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Whats your take on selling N6 MINSZREQ

RangerKRangerK Posts: 43
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I received a card back MINSZREQ and was thinking what to do with it. Would you see any selling it with the returned label from PSA and clearly advertising it as N6?

I was thinking there are collectors that keep cards raw and may not mind it to get it a discount, but also thinking of those who may just try to play it off as a raw ungraded card and sell it as such.

Also it would have been in the PSA 7 range valued around $400. Not even sure what to try to get out of it. This is a Topps Gretzky rookie.

Thanks!

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  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    I would resub it a few times.. they are rough on high value cards
  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I would resub it a few times.. they are rough on high value cards >>





    I agree. I had a card go from Min Size to a 7 to an 8.
  • FrozencaribouFrozencaribou Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Before I bought into the PSA mindset, I accepted that cards came from packs with slight variations in size. Sorting through thousands of cards and even looking at cards in 800 count boxes you notice the variations in size from the same set.

    I try to keep that perspective when thinking about this issue. There nothing wrong with them, other than a TPG has arbitrarily decided they cannot be slabbed with a grade. If you think about it, it makes little sense. Is the card legit? Yes. Is it sheet cut? No. Does PSA grade cards that are just a little over sized from the same set? Usually.

    N6 just says that it is a legit card that is too small. It remains one of the strangest things I am asked to believe about what can and can't be graded.

    -Nathanael

  • RangerKRangerK Posts: 43
    I sent this card in without examining it all that closely. Once it got that grade i compared it to some others and you can tell it is very slightly short on one side.

    With that being said, does the N6 mean it came from the factory like this, or if a card was trimmed would it be called something else? I have gotten cards back with the same N6 that i pulled myself from the pack.

    I first thought that being it came from a card show (not knowing original origin) that it was probably trimmed.

    I now know to look closer at anything raw.

  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    N6 just means small. If it was clearly altered, it'd have got "evidence of trimming". I'd resubmit once or twice more before giving up. Good luck!
  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think a lot of 1979 Topps WGs are small. I had one that PSA said was N6.
    So I sent it to Beckett and they gave it a 8 nm-mt.
    I wasnt happy with the grade and sent it to SGC and they gave it a 92.
    Card was pack fresh but it was to small for PSAs liking. SGC and Beckett will grade the card and look at the edges more and slab it.
    Send it to SGC or Beckett
  • RangerKRangerK Posts: 43
    Ohh alright so there is still hope. Ill try PSA once more then go Beckett. Thanks again everyone
  • charrigancharrigan Posts: 2,293
    Post results when you hear back!
  • PMKAYPMKAY Posts: 1,372 ✭✭


    << <i>Ohh alright so there is still hope. Ill try PSA once more then go Beckett. Thanks again everyone >>



    Or if that fails buy this and give it whatever grade you want
  • arexarex Posts: 999 ✭


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    << <i>Ohh alright so there is still hope. Ill try PSA once more then go Beckett. Thanks again everyone >>



    Or if that fails buy this and give it whatever grade you want >>


    Anybody want to go halfsies with me?
  • PMKAYPMKAY Posts: 1,372 ✭✭


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    << <i>Ohh alright so there is still hope. Ill try PSA once more then go Beckett. Thanks again everyone >>



    Or if that fails buy this and give it whatever grade you want >>


    Anybody want to go halfsies with me? >>



    Maybe but let's wait him out a bit. He started at 75000
  • arexarex Posts: 999 ✭


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    << <i>Ohh alright so there is still hope. Ill try PSA once more then go Beckett. Thanks again everyone >>



    Or if that fails buy this and give it whatever grade you want >>


    Anybody want to go halfsies with me? >>



    Maybe but let's wait him out a bit. He started at 75000 >>


    I like your business acumen already!
  • PLEHRPLEHR Posts: 102 ✭


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    << <i>I would resub it a few times.. they are rough on high value cards >>





    I agree. I had a card go from Min Size to a 7 to an 8. >>



    I had a card I pulled from a pack myself get kicked back for Min Size three times and the forth time graded a 9. Just resubmit.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I pulled a really sharp 1978 OPC Murray RC from a pack a few years ago and it has come back minsize several times now. I try again every so often.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • elsnortoelsnorto Posts: 2,012 ✭✭
    I agree with the others... just because it was returned as N6 this time, doesn't mean it will the next... or, most importantly, that PSA believes the card was altered.

    That said, were you to sell it raw, I believe the right thing to do would be to disclose the N6 opinion while emphasizing it does not mean the card was trimmed.

    Snorto~
  • OAKESY25OAKESY25 Posts: 4,726 ✭✭✭
    the 1978 OPC Murray RC is notorious for being undersized
  • NikklosNikklos Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭


    << <i>N6 just says that it is a legit card that is too small. It remains one of the strangest things I am asked to believe about what can and can't be graded. >>



    This is a great point. But the even stranger thing is if you sub it enough times they'll finally grade it.
    Nikklos
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,742 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>the 1978 OPC Murray RC is notorious for being undersized >>



    The funny part is that the card measures up perfectly in length, but appears to be a smidge too narrow. Usually, my N6s are short length-wise.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Double post.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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