Does anyone have a picture of a full 1960's cello box?
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I have been curious as to how they were issued, specifically in the later 1960's. I personally have never seen a picture of a complete box of baseball cello packs from before 1970. Do any exist?
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<< <i>I think CPAMike recently posted a picture of a 1967 Cello Box, but I cannot remember where on the board. >>
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Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
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I count 6 columns of 8 packs, is this right? 48 packs in a cello box? If so, then no wonder they are so difficult to come by!
I wonder how many packs were in each cello box each year.
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Hiya Mike - is that your box? What would that go for today?
<< <i>Here is a fake 1960 Box:
I've been in a bad state of mind the last 24 hours but I must admit this post did bring a smile to my face--especially the car atop the superman pack--well done to whoever created it!
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Hiya Mike - is that your box? What would that go for today? >>
Hi Mike. No, it was from the BBCE facebook page I believe a year or so ago iirc. John Moran noted that there were both series 1 and series 2 cellos showing so it was probably a put together box unless Topps produced series 1 and 2 cello boxes. Maybe Doug (dboneesq) remembers, he was ripping these back in the day.
Have no idea what it would go for now. My unopened knowledge is mostly from 1968 forward.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>Here's a 1960 cello box where all the packs were GAI graded. The box contained 36 packs.
It's a shame they took all of the packs out to get graded. I see 4 pairs of packs that have the same card on top (8 total) and a 5th group of three packs that share the same card on top. I wonder if there was any sort of pattern?
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<< <i>It's a shame they took all of the packs out to get graded. I see 4 pairs of packs that have the same card on top (8 total) and a 5th group of three packs that share the same card on top. I wonder if there was any sort of pattern? >>
Not an expert on the 1960's, but I know for the 1970's, originally boxes typically had cards repeating either on top and/or back. Usually 4 packs on average. Without checking, assuming these are all from the same series, you would think you would see duplicates of cards showing as well based on the limited number of cards in the series.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
<< <i>easy ones for me to post from work, and yes I know that 1953 is before the 60's and the box isnt full LOL, I think I have a bunch more pics on the home computer >>
John, awesome pictures!!! Thanks as always for sharing.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
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<< <i>It's a shame they took all of the packs out to get graded. I see 4 pairs of packs that have the same card on top (8 total) and a 5th group of three packs that share the same card on top. I wonder if there was any sort of pattern? >>
Not an expert on the 1960's, but I know for the 1970's, originally boxes typically had cards repeating either on top and/or back. Usually 4 packs on average. Without checking, assuming these are all from the same series, you would think you would see duplicates of cards showing as well based on the limited number of cards in the series. >>
The 1960 2nd series only contains numbers 111-198. So there's certain to be heavy duplication with such a small series (88 cards and 36 packs). I wonder how many series sets that cello box could build?
<< <i>The 1960 2nd series only contains numbers 111-198. So there's certain to be heavy duplication with such a small series (88 cards and 36 packs). I wonder how many series sets that cello box could build? >>
I didn't think of how small the series is, but still. 88 different cards between 36 different packs, the chance of having two of the same cards on the front of two packs in a box isn't even 50% (unless my math is off). Why do we see so many duplications?
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<< <i>Why do we see so many duplications? >>
Jason, I believe it was the way that Topps packaged the packs on a particular production run. As much as none of us were there and Topps isn't saying, I've seen many boxes that were original (one was directly from the Topps vault) and had 4 or so packs that would duplicate the player showing (8 packs in total). I've seen this with both cello and rack packs although with rack packs, you tend to have one card showing on top while showing on back of another rack. As much as Topps tried to distribute the cards evenly, they were using machines that like to do things uniform. Just my 2 cents.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Duplicates are not uncommon in original boxes as Mike said. Even when Topps first switched to all series format in 1974, it wasn't terribly uncommon to encounter racks with same player card on top of two sections, before sequencing became more uniform and true later in 1975. >>
Thank you. That's great information from the both of you, but you have to assume there's some basic level of sequencing if there are so many packs with duplicate card on top. Right?
I honestly, have no experience with pre 1975 Topps cello packs, but when I look at these it seems very plausible.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." Dr. Seuss
Amazing pictures to look at. There must be folks out there who bought 54 bowman and 55 bowman wax boxes from the Mr. Mint find years back who still have those boxes intact and unopened, but I have not seen any in a long time. Any body have any pics of those?
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>The one drawback to sealing the boxes in shrinkwrap is that you can't enjoy looking at the cellos inside~definitely worth wrapping if selling, but as a collector, I'd want to look at those packs, LOL! >>
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But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
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<< <i>The one drawback to sealing the boxes in shrinkwrap is that you can't enjoy looking at the cellos inside~definitely worth wrapping if selling, but as a collector, I'd want to look at those packs, LOL! >>
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+2. Unless from a sealed case, I'd wait to get it wrapped until time to sell it.