Just picked up a very hard case of cards to find

BIGBEN7

I remember when I was setting up at cards shows back in 1990 a box of these 1990 UD French high number boxes were selling for $500 a box. I have been looking for a case for a long time. The price has really dropped on these so I am planning on putting this away. These boxes are loaded with rookies and stars. Does anybody remember what the print run was on these cases?

itzagoner

they could still be printing them right now.

Stingray

I remember being in Torontoin 1991 and bought the French set of 1990 UD for $75 or so, came back and sold it for $150 at a card show.

PMKAY

<< <i>they could still be printing them right now. >>



Lol, this wouldn't surprise me.

byronscott4ever

If UD hadn't changed the pack makeup, they may have gotten away at their double dipping.

LarkinCollector

The original print run was 600 cases, who knows how many they ended up printing. See the first couple paragraphs here: Link

PMKAY

From Cards Sharks article

Card Sharks laid out a devastating case that the company essentially counterfeited its own cards in a comedy of venal errors that became known simply as “French hockey.” The short version – Upper Deck found that a 620-case limited run of French-language hockey cards for sale in Canada had skyrocketed on the secondary market. The $409 wholesale cases of cards were going for as much as $10,000. So under McWilliam’s direction, they printed a small fortune in cards for company insiders – except that the 960 new cases ($9.6 million worth of essentially fraudulent new cards) crashed the market overnight, instantly screwing themselves and everyone who bought cases of cards on the good faith that the company wouldn’t do anything so patently unethical.

jmmiller777

Yes, I just re-read that article where everyone in the company was taking home cases and cases of product. And then they were printing thousands of rookie and potential star cards. Everyone was out of control. I don't think there was ever an accurate count of what was actually produced.

BIGBEN7

I read the article and was just curious why you don't see and cases for sale if they over produced them. I would like to know how many cases BBCE has been offered in the last 10 years.

PMKAY

You may be forgetting the demand part of supply and demand on this product. When you say you are going to put it away for a while, that means you are treating it as an investment. If you look at the ways you could bust that case open to try and make a profit you could

1) Send in the key cards for grading but have a look at the pop report and you'll see that there are no shortage of 10s for all the key cards and none of them go for all that much money.

2) Make and sell complete sets. I don't know how many sets you could make out of the case but if you want to move the sets quickly you would have to sell them for 20 to 25 dollars per set.

3) Sell the key cards on ebay for a buck or two each. If you have an ebay store and are selling low end stuff then this would work but it would be a long process especially considering when you are up some of the big stores that offer free shipping.

Correct me if I am wrong but I don't see a whole lot of demand for this case now or in the future.

KendallCat

Funny thing is we were just discussing this exact year and set the other day, and it was amazing how hot hockey became in 1990-91. Score came out with their set with the Lindros future star card, and names like Jaromir Jagr and Owen Nolan became household names. UD then followed with their set and Federov and Pavel Bure were huge. I remember standing outside of a Sam's Club and just out of college and seeing a bunch of the local dealers and shop owners standing outside waiting for the doors to open - 90% of whom I knew. I remember one of them not pleased that there was one more person there to grab some boxes and smartly asked me what I was doing there? I told him I heard a rumor that a bunch of rich old guys were parked outside a Sam's Club and wanted to see if I lost the bet that nobody in their 50's and 60's would be waiting for cards at 9am at Sam's Club. You could have heard a pin drop

rabbitpunch

Saw the title, then lmao when I saw the pic.