Does a small string strike through add value to an Oregon Commem?

lostincoins

So here is the strike through. At first I thought it was a scratch as I was working on things that held this coin back from the MS68 as it is MS67+. Here are some pics. My other question is , Why does doubling on so many other series bring extra money but not on these as this coin exhibits quad doubling in places. Any information and opinions would be appreciated, thank you.

Broadstruck

It doesn't add any value and in fact hurts your coin...

As no error collector would be interested as it minor on a pricey coin and if spotted no commem collector would want that on a so called superb gem MS67+.

lostincoins

Thank you for the opinion. Does that count for the doubling also? If this is actually a serious detriment to the value of this coin is it something to contact CAC about as it is green beaned? I know I would not get list for this coin but list for a MS67+ is around 1700.00

stman

CAC beaned the base grade of 67 not 67+. They will make an offer accordingly.

Edit, unless they feel they made an error on the bean. Then they might make you whole.

ctf_error_coins

<< <i>It doesn't add any value and in fact hurts your coin...

As no error collector would be interested as it minor on a pricey coin and if spotted no commem collector would want that on a so called superb gem MS67+. >>



BS nailed it.

I can only add that it's called a White Elephant

stman

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<< <i>It doesn't add any value and in fact hurts your coin...

As no error collector would be interested as it minor on a pricey coin and if spotted no commem collector would want that on a so called superb gem MS67+. >>



BS nailed it.

I can only add that it's called a White Elephant >>



Who you calling "BS."

Broadstruck

So far I've never meet anyone who cared about varieties on this series except on the Lafayette dollars.

There's a recent cherry picker guide variety on the Vancouver issue that no one cares about just like you never hear anyone desperate to find a 1915-S/S Pan-Pac or DDO Stone Mountain.

Shamika

This strike through is much to small to be considered significant for an error collector.

lostincoins

I see well that is depressing as I was thinking of using this to fund the trip to the ANA and now I would not want to even want to have some one else have this coin in this holder. It is interesting though finding out what coins errors such as doubled dies or issues such as strike throughs bring extra and how the same thing on another coin hurts the value. I will have to be even more diligent with slabed coins now as I guess I deluded my self with the grade of this coin and the only buy slabed coins statement.

I guess this is making me a bit more angry than I thought, probably from not sleeping much for 3 days......

Thanks everyone.

Kove

<< <i>Thank you for the opinion. Does that count for the doubling also? If this is actually a serious detriment to the value of this coin is it something to contact CAC about as it is green beaned? I know I would not get list for this coin but list for a MS67+ is around 1700.00 >>




The reason no one cares about commemorative DDO's, DDR's, TDO's, RPM's, etc is that they are common, relative to the low overall mintages of the coins. The overall mintages for many classic commems are low, so they didn't have to use many dies. Since they didn't use many dies, whenever there was a die with a trait like DDO/DDR/RPM/etc, that die made a high percentage of the commems that went out the door.

As an example, there's a very common, and very obvious, triple die obverse on the 1933-D and 1934-D Oregon's. Only one of the obverse dies used was the tripled die, so you might think it would be scarce. However, they only used two obverse dies in 1933 because the mintage was so low. So, since they only used two obverse dies, a large percentage of the coins you see are from the tripled obverse die. Then they went and used the same obverse die in 1934 (the date is on the reverse, so the obverse dies could be reused), thus creating a bunch more tripled-die obverse coins the next year.

While these DDOs/DDRs/RPMs/etc are interesting, they are not scarce, on a relative basis, in the commem series.

lostincoins

Thank you for the info Kove Mine is a 38-S and is a quad die obverse. What is your opinion on the strike through, is it a negative or does not really effect the coin because of the size?

stealer

The strike through is so insignificantly small that it would never affect the selling point of the coin positively or negatively (i.e. nobody will ever see it). I'm not sure why some responders to this thread act though it was the plague.

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crypto79

Holding back from 68 is a misnomer. At the super grades esp on classic issues coins have to earn the grade more so than be disqualified from it. It would be incorrect to think that every coin comes out as a MS70 and starts earning demerits, many coins might start life as a 65 or 66 within the first second of its exsistance. You should know these things before buying 4figure coins.

lostincoins

<< <i>Holding back from 68 is a misnomer. At the super grades esp on classic issues coins have to earn the grade more so than be disqualified from it. It would be incorrect to think that every coin comes out as a MS70 and starts earning demerits, many coins might start life as a 65 or 66 within the first second of its exsistance. >>



Crypto this is a good point and one that many newer to the hobby may not know. As for my coin after a good look at it I can see what is holding it back from that 68 grade, a small nick in the bow, a small hit on the shoulder and possibly the strike through seen as a scratch. A MS68 grade on this coin is akin to an MS 70 on many other series if you look at what has been graded. I got 3hrs of sleep finally and see things better now.

MedalCollector

I agree. It is so tiny that it wouldnt influence the price at all. I bet i wouldnt have even seen it hadn't it been for your super-fantastic close-up images.

lostincoins

<< <i>I agree. It is so tiny that it wouldnt influence the price at all. I bet i wouldnt have even seen it hadn't it been for your super-fantastic close-up images. >>



I guess I was wanting to show it was not a scratch and that in some cases a strike through is seen as interesting.

291fifth

Minor errors such as this add no value and, as others have suggested, may even diminish the value.

crypto79

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<< <i>Holding back from 68 is a misnomer. At the super grades esp on classic issues coins have to earn the grade more so than be disqualified from it. It would be incorrect to think that every coin comes out as a MS70 and starts earning demerits, many coins might start life as a 65 or 66 within the first second of its exsistance. >>



Crypto this is a good point and one that many newer to the hobby may not know. As for my coin after a good look at it I can see what is holding it back from that 68 grade, a small nick in the bow, a small hit on the shoulder and possibly the strike through seen as a scratch. A MS68 grade on this coin is akin to an MS 70 on many other series if you look at what has been graded. I got 3hrs of sleep finally and see things better now. >>



There are plenty of low functioning people/collectors who have been around for a bit who don't grasp this too. Like the 6th sense, they are everywhere and they are don't know they are low functioning.

brg5658

<< <i>There are plenty of low functioning people/collectors who have been around for a bit who don't grasp this too. Like the 6th sense, they are everywhere and they are don't know they are low functioning. >>

Broadstruck

<< <i>As for my coin after a good look at it I can see what is holding it back from that 68 grade, a small nick in the bow, a small hit on the shoulder and possibly the strike through seen as a scratch. >>



There's a bit more at play then just technical grading on this series. You really need to attend a few major shows at which you should be able to find a couple common dated MS68's. At that level even if toned the underlying luster should have you in complete awe as they are a sight to behold. Your coin beyond marks will most likely never attain an upgrade to that level due to being somewhat subdued and possessing streaky toning.

AUandAG

It does not help nor hurt. It's so small that it has no affect on the value.

bob

mdwoods

<< <i>It does not help nor hurt. It's so small that it has no affect on the value.

bob >>

lostincoins

Crypto the wording on this part of your statement is just to funny: "they are everywhere and they are don't know they are low functioning."
Was that intentional?

halfhunter

<< <i> There are plenty of low functioning people/collectors who have been around for a bit who don't grasp this too. Like the 6th sense, they are everywhere and they are don't know they are low functioning. >>





Then there are folks like me who are low functioning and know it ! ! !



HH