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bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
Ok, so I have a coin that I do not know the value of. image
If I put this in the bst, do I need to put a price on it or can I list it as a Best Offer?

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  • blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Prices are best, you can always take an offer.

    Auctions, best offers by midnight, etc are considered a no-no.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Could leave money on the table if you don't know value


    And now everyone knows you don't know the value

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  • I would try to research what the value is and then decide how much
    you want and what you will actually take for it. Asking to much for a
    coin and not being open for an fair offer may not sell the coin. I've
    thought that putting coins on the BST they need to have a price rather
    than the offers set your price. Keeps the BST from being an auction board.

  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Could leave money on the table if you don't know value


    And now everyone knows you don't know the value >>



    With the 'winky face', I think he might possibly have gotten his answer when 'auctions, best offers by midnight.....' was mentioned. Though, with the 'Bossman', I don't want to assume anything (or tick him off....have you seen his biceps????...the OP is a man I would DEFINITELY have to think twice about 'scrappin'' with, and I don't have to think twice very often...lol).

    Though, if the OP really DOESN'T know, MsM makes a great point.
    I'll come up with something.
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What is it? We could help you find the value using PMS first.
  • MGLICKERMGLICKER Posts: 7,995 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What is it? We could help you find the value using PMS first. >>



    Some decent pics and this forum can make a value assessment in no time.
  • lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    If I did not know value of a particular coin, I would take good, clear pics, both front and back and put it on EBAY. Based upon further research, I would set a reserve price accordingly. If it doesn't sell after a few auction listings, lower the reserve or let it ride at a $1 auction ;-)If its anything exciting you will get your
    fair money for it, since the 'Bay has much more eyes looking at your auction that the BST. Just in my honest opinion.
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  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭
    Rule 1, never sell something if you don't know what it is or what it's worth. Throwing it on Ebay without proper valuation doesn't prove anything as you may miss the real buyers during the time it's listed.

    I almost did that once.

    Had an offer of $2,600...sounded good.

    Decided I'd better figure it out first. Result was $22,000+
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow! Casman what was that?
  • CasmanCasman Posts: 3,935 ✭✭


    << <i>Wow! Casman what was that? >>



    They were originals by this guy:

    link

    Click on 1959. Had quite a few from the late 50's early 60's

    Actually, they were a duo. If you look close you'll notice initials, af-vk. VK was Van Kaufman and he passed away a long time ago. At some point someone had added tags which covered the initials and I couldn't figure out the artist but knew the stuff looked very cool...

    After I threw a few on ebay...I noticed the initials sticking out on one of the prints, pulled the listings, then googled af-vk and the rest is history.
  • LindeDadLindeDad Posts: 18,766 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Someone on the US coin forum does't know how to find the value of a coin. I find that hard to fathom. image
    For BST deals I think they use whats stamped on them.image
  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Could leave money on the table if you don't know value


    And now everyone knows you don't know the value >>

    I don't think I'd mess with a fella that owns two tricked out Harley-Davidson's and has arms the size of Tree Trunks.

    I think I'd offer a fair price. image
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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well I thought the winky would have given it away. It is the BB'd toned peace dollar. I've had a couple offers via pm and a couple other comments of it being worth more to the right person. Just wanting to put it out there and get what I can. It never hurts to try to make a couple dxtra bucks.
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PMed
  • CoinJunkieCoinJunkie Posts: 8,772 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What I would do:

    1) Figure out the total amount you have invested in the coin including slabbing fees

    2) Put it on eBay as an auction with a starting price that gets you out at break even factoring in eBay/PayPal fees

    3) Put a link to the auction on the BST

    4) If you only break even, be grateful for the free education... image
  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>What I would do:

    1) Figure out the total amount you have invested in the coin including slabbing fees

    2) Put it on eBay as an auction with a starting price that gets you out at break even factoring in eBay/PayPal fees

    3) Put a link to the auction on the BST

    4) If you only break even, be grateful for the free education... image >>


    Thanks, I think I'll wait to see what comes of it here first.
    The education part was not a biggie. I bought it because I liked it and never planned on submitting it. I just started hearing it was worth the gamble. I'm not a good gambler. Lol
  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The coin is still in the slab. I took more pics of it when it came back. I will posts pics in the thread when I get home so y'all know what it is.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Crack it, acetone it to try to remove any "residue", put it on ebay and say you submitted it, gotten "residue" on it, and then acetoned it and don't feel like submitting it again.
    Let it ride.

    Else, put it on BST for $200 OBO.

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  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Ohhhhhh

    Acetone bath is a good idea for it. Attack both sides of the coin. I think that some schmutz might come off both sides.


    Get some after pics on here before you try to sell it.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Considering that the whole value in this coin is the toning I'm guess a bath of any kind is not idea…………………MJ
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Considering that the whole value in this coin is the toning I'm guess a bath of any kind is not idea…………………MJ >>



    I would be immensely surprised if a high grade acetone bath did anything to the toning.

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  • JustacommemanJustacommeman Posts: 22,852 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Considering that the whole value in this coin is the toning I'm guess a bath of any kind is not idea…………………MJ >>



    I would be immensely surprised if a high grade acetone bath did anything to the toning. >>



    From the recollection of the the picture of that coin I wouldn't : )

    MJ
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  • PokermandudePokermandude Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭
    Do your research on the value and write a fair price.

    Only once have I put an ad up on the BST with no listed price, just make an offer. I knew the value of the coins I was selling. I didn't expect the extremely lowball offer that I received, but in retrospect I probably should have.
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  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think I would do the acetone dip and resubmit and see if it grades second time in. If it does, then you will net allot more money than just selling it raw.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>Considering that the whole value in this coin is the toning I'm guess a bath of any kind is not idea…………………MJ >>



    I would be immensely surprised if a high grade acetone bath did anything to the toning. >>



    From the recollection of the the picture of that coin I wouldn't : )

    MJ >>



    So, just qtip it in a small spot and see.

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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So here is the coin in question taken at a few angles so everything shows up.

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  • kazkaz Posts: 9,263 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmm. I think the 'residue' may be that stuff on the reverse, like old tape residue. an acetone bath might work wonders. or not.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,731 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I was thinking the AS no grade was the reverse, too.

    Now with "residue" I'm thinking that even more.

    Don't wipe it off... Acetone soak it off. If it takes more than 1 bath, so be it.

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  • BroadstruckBroadstruck Posts: 30,497 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Hmm. I think the 'residue' may be that stuff on the reverse, like old tape residue. an acetone bath might work wonders. or not. >>



    image

    Or glue from an album which too should come right off with acetone...

    Don't dump the coin bsshog40 as it's worth resubmitting once rectified.
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  • Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They were just being nice and found a reason other than artificial toning on this. These simply do not tone with these bright neon colors. I have an album of several hundred uncirculated Peace dollars, all toned, and all pulled out from collections over the last 30 years by a longtime dealer. Not even 1 looks like this. Some are very nice, but they just don't have neon color.

    Yes some have slipped through in the past, but not these days.
  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Well I could crack it out, give it an acetone bath and spend another $80 on resubmitting. Should I start a poll on this? Lol
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well I could crack it out, give it an acetone bath and spend another $80 on resubmitting. Should I start a poll on this? Lol >>



    And a lot of the forum will be glad to see you spend YOUR money. I guess you haven't learned that yet. image
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  • lkeigwinlkeigwin Posts: 16,893 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My guess is the objectionable residue is on the reverse. From tape or glue or some surface it once stuck to. If it were my coin I'd crack it and bathe it in acetone. A few times. If acetone does something to the obverse toning well, then it was artificial.

    When a coin has multiple issues PCGS usually cites just one. Cleaning up the residue doesn't mean it will grade no problem. There's nothing original-looking about the obverse toning.

    If I remember correctly this was an inexpensive coin ($30?) and based on other photos (not as good as those in this thread) a lot of us said "send it to PCGS, you might get lucky". If we'd seen the photos in this thread I'll bet a lot of us would have said "acetone first, then let's see it again".

    To me a $30 coin with potentially fixable problems is a challenge and a chance to make it better, or at worst learn from the restoration. I've still got $16 in silver no matter what.

    I would not spend more in grading fees.
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  • derrybderryb Posts: 37,619 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Are you selling a coin on the US Coin forum or on the BST, or both? image

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  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Are you selling a coin on the US Coin forum or on the BST, or both? image >>


    Neither right now. I'm gonna call pcgs cust. serv and see if they will give me any more info on the coin. I may also crack it out and bathe it in acetone. If acetone damages the toning, then I save those that wanted to buy this coin money and I'd rather eat my losses on the coin then let another forum member lose theirs.
  • At least it's not AT
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,776 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>At least it's not AT >>



    Not always the case: PCGS will list the most offensive problem and forgo listing others, in some cases.
    For example, a coin could be cleaned and holed and the problem code will reflect the issue with the hole.

    peacockcoins

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,392 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Acetone should not take away the color, unless the color is not real. Thanks for sharing!
  • bsshog40bsshog40 Posts: 3,970 ✭✭✭✭✭
    so I just got done talking with customer service.they show that the actual information should have been altered services.hey restoration review would cost me $25 and they said that they can review the coin to see if it is able to be restored.I have more than I want in the coin already so I am thinking another $25 ain't gonna hurt too much worse. Lol so I may just go ahead and send this in for review.

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