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Sunnywood's weekly treat ... three cent silver!

It's really amazing when a coin this tiny can look this good under huge magnification ... incredible color and surfaces, clear and cameoed, but with just enough of the right sort of wavy wateriness in the fields to confirm circulation strike status; different in visual quality from the flat glassy mirrors of a proof.

Now here's a good case of "buy the coin, not the holder." This coin was in a first-generation NGC MS65 holder for many years, right up through the June auction of the first installment of Gene Gardner's collection. But that NGC MS65 did NOT stop this coin from realizing MS67+ prices several times at auction. Obviously the buyers were looking well past the holder.

At the January 2013 Heritage FUN Signature Sale, this coin appeared as lot 3275 and realized $19,975, consigned from the Walter Freeman Collection of three cent silvers. At the time there was no CAC sticker on the holder, and the slab grade was NGC MS65. My point is, sometimes the coin speaks for itself, and the price realized has nothing to do with the grade on the holder. By comparison, according to CoinFacts, most other 65's were realizing around $3000, and even an NGC MS68 realized under $10,000. This happens when two or more bidders see the coin at lot viewing, and decide that it is more than a 65. In this case, they evidently decided it was more than a 66 too. The buyer at the January 2013 Heritage sale was Gene Gardner.

Fast forward to June 2014. Heritage now offered the coin in its June 23rd auction of the Eugene Gardner Collection (Part I). The coin appeared as lot 30116, still in the same first generation NGC "fatty," but now with the addition of a CAC Gold sticker, indicating the opinion of CAC that the coin is essentially a lock upgrade from the 65 slab grade. Once again, the coin blew past any price guide, realizing $23,500. This time the buyer resubmitted the coin to PCGS, and it came back PCGS MS67 (and rightly so ... the coin is so nice, one wonders where the plus is). CAC agreed with PCGS and gave it a green sticker, indicating the coin is "solid for the grade" in their opinion.

My point is, a more timid buyer at auction might have passed on the coin, concerned as to whether it would cross, at what grade, or whether it would be questioned as a business strike as vs. a proof. That "more timid" buyer was me. I loved the coin at lot viewing, but I was too concerned with the NGC MS65 slab, even with the gold sticker. Fortunately for me, the dealer who bought it at auction was both confident in the coin, and correct; and I was later offered the coin in the present PCGS MS67 holder, CAC. That worked for me ... and the coin looks so much better in the PCGS holder too. Here's a case where a dealer bought a coin at auction, added value by getting it into the more desirable PCGS MS67 holder, and then sold it to a collector who was happy to buy it. A win-win situation!

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Comments

  • ms70ms70 Posts: 13,956 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Certainly a stunner! Congrats!

    Great transactions with oih82w8, JasonGaming, Moose1913.

  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,393 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awsome!!!!!
  • Thank you for the history on the coin and what a wonderful look.
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,265 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow, you can even see the tiny barbules on the feathers of the arrows. Not to mention the color. Really an exemplar for the series.
  • DaveWcoinsDaveWcoins Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭
    Great looking coin, Sunnywood. Congrats!
    Dave Wnuck. Redbook contributor; long time PNG Member; listed on the PCGS Board of Experts. PM me with your email address to receive my e-newsletter, and visit DaveWcoins.com Find me on eBay at davewcoins
  • SwampboySwampboy Posts: 13,100 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Sweet Treat!!!

    That coin looks just amazing in the NGC slab image as well as the Trueview.

    "Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso

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  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>G O R G E O U S!!! Congrads on a superlative specimen!
    Too bad it was left in the oldnolinefatty like yeoldone had it in w/gold sticka, but I realize I may be in the minority with these decisions. image >>



    ...it wasn't left in it though image

    Very Nice coin and a great example of a True Collector with the pocket-book to pursue his/her passion....gotta Respect that!

    Erik
  • EastonCollectionEastonCollection Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭✭✭
    great looking coin and its great to know that there are still deals to be had in auctions!
    Easton Collection
  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,199 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coin. Saw it in hand at Las Vegas
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Great coin. Saw it in hand at Las Vegas >>



    Beautiful coin -- I'll play Monday morning quarterback and say I would have had no problem/plenty of confidence buying it in the NGC slab, but then I'm saying that in fantasy money terms, perhaps if I had the $ to spend in the real world on it, I'd have hesitated too. image Regardless, great coin, congrats!
  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coin ... but IMO a real bummer that it lost its fatty slab.
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  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 14,059 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Probably the most beautiful 3 cent silver piece I've ever laid my eyes on!! Congratulations are for sure in order here, GREAT PICK-UP!!!!! I'm just a little bit jealous image
    The bitterness of "Poor Quality" is remembered long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.
  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,971 ✭✭✭✭
    I dunno that I bemoan the loss of the fatty slab in this case, as I've seen those sometimes seem to contribute to an overall darkening/smoky appearance for otherwise BU coins that turned their eye appeal negative for me.

    As well, I can place only so much importance on the plastic shell surrounding a gem coin that's been around since 1863. It would present just as well in a Capital Plastics board, and if well cared for would remain the gem that it is well into the future. image
  • NicNic Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coin. I saw it twice before Las Vegas. image

  • SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,048 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Great coin ... but IMO a real bummer that it lost its fatty slab. >>



    imageI also have a number of old no line fattys with a gold sticker and they are one or two grades higher ie ms65 and are either ms66 or ms67 depending on the day and the grader's mood if submitted but they won't be, trust meimage
    BTW nothing like a highly toned coin in a white slab! >>




    I was also thinking in terms of the coin's tremendous color...keeping that old slab holds some assurance that it hasn't been monkeyed with for a certain period of time....when I see wild toners in brand new slabs I'm generally more skeptical. This is of course completely from a collector's POV...not a seller trying to maximize profit from a higher (properly) graded, newer slab.
  • SunnywoodSunnywood Posts: 2,683
    In this case, the coin actually looks really nice in the new PCGS holder. I will say that I always prefer for coins not to get cracked out and handled too often, and seeing old holders gives some comfort level that a coin hasn't been messed with. But I always felt that coins do look a bit "buried" in the thick white slabs, and I do like the look of it floating in the new clear slab. Having years' worth of digital auction archives online is nice too ... you can verify that a coin's appearance hasn't changed. It's also really thrilling to find a coin plated in an old auction catalog, say from 30-40-50 years ago, and see that it essentially remained the same. I like coins with pedigrees, then I know they're legit and have been valued and appreciated in their current state for years or decades.

    Mint state three cent silvers are a challenge to find with monster color and eye appeal. It's a little easier in the proofs, especially the later proofs. This particular piece is just awesome, especially if you love colorfully toned silver as I do.

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