I just bought a huge bunch of Baseball autographs from1945-1950
Smittys
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With the original envelopes sent to get them.
Does that make them more Valuable ?
lots of good names and I paid way to much
Pictures tomorrow but for example is a 1947 Autograph of Jackie robinson worth more than just his autograph ?
Does that make them more Valuable ?
lots of good names and I paid way to much
Pictures tomorrow but for example is a 1947 Autograph of Jackie robinson worth more than just his autograph ?
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The envelopes make it an interesting story rather than just a horde.
Bosox1976
<< <i>......and I paid way to much >>
Card store owner translation = I paid 20% of the retail value instead of 10%.
This is a joke?
Congrats,
Eric
some have letters
Honus Wagner From 1949
With His Handwritten Name in Corner of return address
More Pics to come tomorrow
159 autos total
Only other thing I can think of at the moment - I sometimes have trouble with early signatures - selling or even showing. Folks just do not know what early signatures look like many times. Bette Davis and E.G. Robinson come to mind. I have bought both as secretarials for $3 and $5 and have done well
This could make a great small book of vintage exemplars using a self publisher. You have more than enough. You could really do well!
Wonderful stuff once all examined.
Eric
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<< <i>I sometimes have trouble with early signatures - selling or even showing. Folks just do not know what early signatures look like many times. Bette Davis and E.G. Robinson come to mind. I have bought both as secretarials for $3 and $5 and have done well >>
What exactly do you mean by this statement, Magik Billy? Or Eric, which appears to be your real name.
Great find, Smitty's. Congratulations.
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<< <i>I sometimes have trouble with early signatures - selling or even showing. Folks just do not know what early signatures look like many times. Bette Davis and E.G. Robinson come to mind. I have bought both as secretarials for $3 and $5 and have done well >>
What exactly do you mean by this statement, Magik Billy? Or Eric, which appears to be your real name. >>
Hi,
I chose "magikbilly" (its my email) in the last century as it never occurred to me I'd be using it and be known by 18 years later. I am maritime researcher/autograph dealer/vintage photo dealer/1939 New York World's Fair dealer and historian etc., book illustrator, adviser etc....Eric Longo.
What I meant was, many folks only know the last incarnation of a celebs sig. Sometimes customers or auction houses will say "secretarial" when unwarranted because they are simply not familiar with the early form of this person or that persons signature. The should read the early letters, seek out the checks and study continuously. For example, the vast majority of Bette Davis signatures are post 1965. Her signature from 1935 very often sells as secretarial, is purchased by someone who know better, and resold.
Eric
Edit for the full gamut - spelling, grammar...and still...errors remain!
<< <i>Cut signatures still bring strong money even though there is the secretarial factor. The major card manufacturers still need them in quantity for inserts. The envelopes help but how much is tough to determine >>
I doubt a large number of these players had secretaries at this time, and the Autopen was mostly confined to Washington and Hollywood in these years. I have seen Gleason and the other Honeymooner's cast trying to make it look like they had secretaries when filling out addresses on return mail - but it is just them. To cut up letters still with the envelopes and return letters would be sinful IMO and shortsighted. It is a dated archive - a database of vintage forms. There may even be some content. This can be of value together - in the right context. The envelopes don't "help" - they are a good chunk of what is here. You are seeing "cuts" with no context - I am seeing something very different.
Eric
<< <i>What I meant was, many folks only know the last incarnation of a celebs sig. Sometimes customers or auction houses will say "secretarial" when unwarranted because they are simply not familiar with the early form of this person or that persons signature. The should read the early letters, seek out the checks and study continuously. For example, the vast majority of Bette Davis signatures are post 1965. Her signature from 1935 very often sells as secretarial, is purchased by someone who know better, and resold. >>
Thanks for the clarification Eric.
Charles Small (Died-1953)(a couple)
Ray Treadaway (Died-1935)(none)
1931
Orlin Collier (Died-1944)(none)
Walt Murphy (Died-1976)(none)
1932
Charlie Biggs (Died-1954)(none)
Regis Leheny (Died-1976)(none)
Dick Terwilliger (Died-1969)(none)
1934
Orville Armbrust (Died-1967)(none)
Junie Barnes (Died-1963) (Maybe one)
Chick Wiedemeyer (Died-1979)(Maybe one)
1938
Tom Lanning (Died-1967) (A few)
1939
Harry O'Neill (Killed in action Iwo Jima 1945)(A few)
1941) WIMPY QUINN
1943) CONNIE CREEDEN (*)
1944) JOHN FICK (*), CLANCY SMYRES (*)
1945) WOODY CROWSON (*)
1946) JOHN CARDEN
1949) JULIO GONZALES (*)
1951) EDDIE GAEDEL (*)
1955) WEBBO CLARKE (*), WENC GONZALES (*)
1956) CHARLIE PEETE
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?? if so you hit big!
San Antonio address and they got there just fine
<< <i>Did it include any of the following 1930
Charles Small (Died-1953)(a couple)
Ray Treadaway (Died-1935)(none)
1931
Orlin Collier (Died-1944)(none)
Walt Murphy (Died-1976)(none)
1932
Charlie Biggs (Died-1954)(none)
Regis Leheny (Died-1976)(none)
Dick Terwilliger (Died-1969)(none)
1934
Orville Armbrust (Died-1967)(none)
Junie Barnes (Died-1963) (Maybe one)
Chick Wiedemeyer (Died-1979)(Maybe one)
1938
Tom Lanning (Died-1967) (A few)
1939
Harry O'Neill (Killed in action Iwo Jima 1945)(A few)
1941) WIMPY QUINN
1943) CONNIE CREEDEN (*)
1944) JOHN FICK (*), CLANCY SMYRES (*)
1945) WOODY CROWSON (*)
1946) JOHN CARDEN
1949) JULIO GONZALES (*)
1951) EDDIE GAEDEL (*)
1955) WEBBO CLARKE (*), WENC GONZALES (*)
1956) CHARLIE PEETE
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?? if so you hit big! >>
No on those ,but I did find Al "Red" Schoendienst auto from his rookie year
awesome collection Smitty!!