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The PCGS First Strike special label for the 50th Anniversary Kennedy Gold Proof Accented Hair w/ ANA

GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
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On-Site Grading Fees and Instructions to get the ANA First Strike label (request label #118):

$100 per coin – Proof 1964-2014-W Kennedy 50th Anniversary Gold Half Dollar

$75 per coin – Clad two-coin set (MS-P, MS-D).

$75 per coin – Silver four-coin set if available (PR-P, Reverse PR-W, Enhanced MS-S, MS-D)

PCGS Submission Guidelines
•All coins must be 50th Anniversary Kennedy Half Dollars:
◦Proof 1964-2014-W Kennedy 50th Anniversary Gold Half Dollar
◦Clad two coin 2014 set: MS-P, MS-D
◦Silver four-coin set: PR-P, Reverse PR-W, Enhanced MS-S, MS-D (when released)
•All standard First Strike rules will apply as described here.
•Valid for Standard Service only (Secure not available).
•Select 'Show' as the service level and under the 'Other' option notate 'Label #118'
•This offer cannot be combined with any other offer or submission.
•Turnaround time for on-site grading is by the End of Show.

For further details, please check with a PCGS Representative at the booth or contact us at 1-800-447-8848.

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  • 19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,492 ✭✭✭✭
    Not really interested in playing the Slab Label game anymore. Especially when the honk up the artwork like that.
    I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.



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  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭
    I am only buying the 4 coins set and keeping it raw. Not interested in the Kennedy Gold.
  • It is interesting what information is where on those labels - perhaps speaks to the end user.

    Eric


  • << <i>It is interesting what information is where on those labels - perhaps speaks to the end user.

    Eric >>



    Label makes it sound like 50th anniversary of JFK. Odd.

    "accented hair" is totally unnecessary too
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,175 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So is that the label that will be used all week of the show? No special first day label???
  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    At least PCGS has it together on it's offering....

    How about this from across the street -



    << <i>NGC will offer its FIRST DAY OF ISSUE designation for 2014-P and D High Relief Uncirculated Clad Half Dollars purchased on the first day of sales (July 24) and received by NGC on or before Monday, June 28, in the original US Mint shipping box with a July 24 postmark. >>



    OK - so let me see.....I order on July 24.....The USM processes my order and SHIPS THE SAME DAY, with a July 24 postmark. I somehow miraculously get the shipment the next day (Friday, 7/25) and Express Mail it to them for receipt in FL on Monday 7/28 (and by the way, they screw up and say June 28!!!)

    NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. Someone wasn't thinking when they put together those instructions!!!
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,175 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This week long label option totally changes the first day purchase importance!! If PCGS doesn't offer a strictly first day label than the first day madness can be avoided. Simply get your gold halves any day of the show and get the "show" label!! No dealing with the first day madness and you can still get the trendy label. I have a hard time believing PCGS wont offer a strictly first day label! The coins bought first day will gravitate toward NGC imho for a 1st day label. Thoughts??
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭
    coin is freak… and that's chic, geek.
  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The coins bought first day will gravitate toward NGC imho for a 1st day label. Thoughts >>



    Did you read my post. It's nonsense. You will never qualify under those rules.
  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭
    I bet Coin Vault and some other large dealers will get the NGC First Day of Issue Designation somehow. Maybe Coin Vault has some special agreement with the mint to have the coins shipped directly to NGC to make the designation.

    Someone is going to benefit, but don't think the First Day of Issue will come close to the ANA labels.
  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,175 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The coins bought first day will gravitate toward NGC imho for a 1st day label. Thoughts >>



    Did you read my post. It's nonsense. You will never qualify under those rules. >>



    This is about the GOLD halves not clad. The Gold go on sale the first day of the ANA. See coin at top of thread!
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    At those prices, it's no wonder my stock price is still going up image
    I like that image

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  • 410a410a Posts: 1,325
    If I were to buy those coins........I'd leave them in the Mint's packaging. This, if I were interested, is getting ridiculous.
  • pennyanniepennyannie Posts: 3,929 ✭✭✭
    That slab is ugly for a 100 dollars. I do not see the appeal of a 100 dollar slab. How does one really know these were the first coins struck? What if the mint employee grabbed the coins on the left instead of the right?

    I would be much more impressed if the mint actually slabbed the first 100 coins produced in order minted.
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  • VanHalenVanHalen Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That slab is ugly for a 100 dollars. I do not see the appeal of a 100 dollar slab. How does one really know these were the first coins struck? What if the mint employee grabbed the coins on the left instead of the right?

    I would be much more impressed if the mint actually slabbed the first 100 coins produced in order minted. >>



    It doesn't have to be graded on-site (for $100) to get that label right? Why couldn't I mail mine to PCGS a week later with a original receipt and get "regular" grading fees applied?
  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,487 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting that PCGS has left the A. N. A. off of the label. hmmm

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

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  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>It doesn't have to be graded on-site (for $100) to get that label right? Why couldn't I mail mine to PCGS a week later with a original receipt and get "regular" grading fees applied? >>

    Because you won't be able to prove you bought them at the show, so you'll probably get a first strike, but not the "Chicago-August 2014" pedigree. Along those lines, I am disappointed to see PCGS isn't following NGC's lead forcing customers to show proof-of-purchase. This will lead to all sorts of Au Kennedy's bought at the Denver/Philly/Wash DC mint stores to be flown into Chicago to get an ANA label.

    (More than that, PCGS doesn't have normal submission requirements listed yet. Given that NGC is forcing you to go through their express tier to grade the Au Kennedy, I suspect PCGS will follow suit requiring you to submit at a higher tier.)

    One of the big problems I have with both NGC and PCGS and these labels, is they want to somehow convince you this coin is about Kennedy. It's not. It's about the 50th anniversary of a 50 cent piece. (Then too, the HOF coin had nothing to do with the HOF...)

    Disclaimer: I'm not getting any of these coins graded.
  • ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,401 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think it would have been cool if they used the gold label like the SRH coins.
  • pf70collectorpf70collector Posts: 6,736 ✭✭✭
    Because you won't be able to prove you bought them at the show, so you'll probably get a first strike, but not the "Chicago-August 2014" pedigree. Along those lines, I am disappointed to see PCGS isn't following NGC's lead forcing customers to show proof-of-purchase. This will lead to all sorts of Au Kennedy's bought at the Denver/Philly/Wash DC mint stores to be flown into Chicago to get an ANA label

    PCGS should require the mint receipt also from the ANA show to qualify for Chicago ANA Label. Easy Fix.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,572 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Because you won't be able to prove you bought them at the show, so you'll probably get a first strike, but not the "Chicago-August 2014" pedigree. Along those lines, I am disappointed to see PCGS isn't following NGC's lead forcing customers to show proof-of-purchase. This will lead to all sorts of Au Kennedy's bought at the Denver/Philly/Wash DC mint stores to be flown into Chicago to get an ANA label

    PCGS should require the mint receipt also from the ANA show to qualify for Chicago ANA Label. Easy Fix. >>



    This sounds like a job for Izzy Swift (note spelling). image
  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>That slab is ugly for a 100 dollars. I do not see the appeal of a 100 dollar slab. How does one really know these were the first coins struck? What if the mint employee grabbed the coins on the left instead of the right?

    I would be much more impressed if the mint actually slabbed the first 100 coins produced in order minted. >>

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  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I just noticed that the slab does not have prongs......what's up with that?
  • stevebensteveben Posts: 4,635 ✭✭✭✭✭
    that label is weird. as others have said already:

    1. 50th anniversary of jfk. no, it's the 50th anniversary of the coin.
    2. accented hair? what? that's a variety...does it really need to be pointed out on *this* coin? are they making a non-accented hair version? if not, it's the only version...and not a variety.

    and i'll add:

    3. why is the reverse label upside down? either way you turn the slab, the reverse of the coin is upside down or the label. why? is the coin actually in medallic orientation of is that an error in the photo?
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I just noticed that the slab does not have prongs......what's up with that? >>

    They didn't photoshop them in? image

    Do you really think PCGS has one of these coins? Aren't all of these "what the slab will look like" pics all mock-ups?
  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>At least PCGS has it together on it's offering....

    How about this from across the street -



    << <i>NGC will offer its FIRST DAY OF ISSUE designation for 2014-P and D High Relief Uncirculated Clad Half Dollars purchased on the first day of sales (July 24) and received by NGC on or before Monday, June 28, in the original US Mint shipping box with a July 24 postmark. >>



    OK - so let me see.....I order on July 24.....The USM processes my order and SHIPS THE SAME DAY, with a July 24 postmark. I somehow miraculously get the shipment the next day (Friday, 7/25) and Express Mail it to them for receipt in FL on Monday 7/28 (and by the way, they screw up and say June 28!!!)

    NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. Someone wasn't thinking when they put together those instructions!!! >>


    It did happen. Confirmed by a grader ATS. Someone (or more than one) bought at the mint store and over-nighted to NGC and got the label.

    I assume they'll make it to their pop report at some point...

    (You may all now bemoan the fact you don't live in Philadelphia, Denver or Washington to be able to do this. image )
  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It did happen. Confirmed by a grader ATS. Someone (or more than one) bought at the mint store and over-nighted to NGC and got the label. >>



    It didn't get shipped to them - they bought it at a retail location.

    NGC was ridiculous on the requirements for that label. NGC contended that the US Mint would ship on 7/24, the person could receive it, and ship to them - all by 7/28.

    Didn't happen. I stand by my post.
  • MsMorrisineMsMorrisine Posts: 35,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>At least PCGS has it together on it's offering....

    How about this from across the street -



    << <i>NGC will offer its FIRST DAY OF ISSUE designation for 2014-P and D High Relief Uncirculated Clad Half Dollars purchased on the first day of sales (July 24) and received by NGC on or before Monday, June 28, in the original US Mint shipping box with a July 24 postmark. >>



    OK - so let me see.....I order on July 24.....The USM processes my order and SHIPS THE SAME DAY, with a July 24 postmark. I somehow miraculously get the shipment the next day (Friday, 7/25) and Express Mail it to them for receipt in FL on Monday 7/28 (and by the way, they screw up and say June 28!!!)

    NEVER GONNA HAPPEN. Someone wasn't thinking when they put together those instructions!!! >>


    It did happen. Confirmed by a grader ATS. Someone (or more than one) bought at the mint store and over-nighted to NGC and got the label.

    I assume they'll make it to their pop report at some point...

    (You may all now bemoan the fact you don't live in Philadelphia, Denver or Washington to be able to do this. image ) >>



    If they show up for sale by someone in MD, I bet I already know who it is. But I'll wait to say.
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  • BackroadJunkieBackroadJunkie Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It did happen. Confirmed by a grader ATS. Someone (or more than one) bought at the mint store and over-nighted to NGC and got the label. >>



    It didn't get shipped to them - they bought it at a retail location. >>


    So those bought at retail locations aren't real? All the show coins (ANA, Baltimore, etc) are illegitimate coins?


    << <i>NGC was ridiculous on the requirements for that label. NGC contended that the US Mint would ship on 7/24, the person could receive it, and ship to them - all by 7/28.

    Didn't happen. I stand by my post. >>

    Okay. I guess those coins, slabs and labels are all imaginary...
  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭


    << <i>So those bought at retail locations aren't real? All the show coins (ANA, Baltimore, etc) are illegitimate coins? >>



    Of course they are real. The problem here is you are interpreting my post incorrectly. NGC released guidance that coins ordered on July 24th via phone and web would somehow be miraculously shipped the same day - Thursday, July 24th. They even stated this on the phone. There was no indication of retail sales occurring for this product at that juncture.

    The dreamers at NGC expected that the US Mint would ship on July 24th (first mistake), you would receive them on Friday, July 25th or Saturday, July 26th (second mistake related to the first), and overnight mail them to NGC (or walk them in) on Monday, July 28th.

    Any reasonable person would agree that this is HIGHLY unlikely to occur.




    << <i>Okay. I guess those coins, slabs and labels are all imaginary... >>



    Not imaginary, but real, and probably from certain sellers as MsMorrisine eludes....


    Those coins did not originate from web or phone orders. They were purchased at retail locations. That's the only way they were sourced.

  • AMRCAMRC Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not really interested in playing the Slab Label game anymore. Especially when the honk up the artwork like that. >>



    Telemarketers LOVE this stuff. These will be marketed to a lot of people who will be buried in them.
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  • bestdaybestday Posts: 4,242 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It doesn't have to be graded on-site (for $100) to get that label right? Why couldn't I mail mine to PCGS a week later with a original receipt and get "regular" grading fees applied? >>

    Because you won't be able to prove you bought them at the show, so you'll probably get a first strike, but not the "Chicago-August 2014" pedigree. Along those lines, I am disappointed to see PCGS isn't following NGC's lead forcing customers to show proof-of-purchase. This will lead to all sorts of Au Kennedy's bought at the Denver/Philly/Wash DC mint stores to be flown into Chicago to get an ANA label.

    (More than that, PCGS doesn't have normal submission requirements listed yet. Given that NGC is forcing you to go through their express tier to grade the Au Kennedy, I suspect PCGS will follow suit requiring you to submit at a higher tier.)

    One of the big problems I have with both NGC and PCGS and these labels, is they want to somehow convince you this coin is about Kennedy. It's not. It's about the 50th anniversary of a 50 cent piece. (Then too, the HOF coin had nothing to do with the HOF...)

    Disclaimer: I'm not getting any of these coins graded. >>



    you can bet coins purchased at other Mint sites will be transported for the PCGS ANA Show label.. just like 2013 Gold buff reverse... a Kennedy gold ANA Show label will bring a hefty premium
  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 10,425 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Not really interested in playing the Slab Label game anymore. Especially when the honk up the artwork like that. >>



    Telemarketers LOVE this stuff. These will be marketed to a lot of people who will be buried in them. >>



    Well at the raw purchase price the buyer is already buried , why not blow the extra $100 on a silly looking slab ?

    In for a penny, in for a pound right?image


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