grader of death has struck agaMembershipOrder #20868597 / Submission #5462175 Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type 1 1 23695407 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 19 Frank Thomas Card 2 1 23695408 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card 2 2 23695409 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card 3 1 23695410 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 21 Frank Thomas Card 4 1 23695411 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 22 Frank Thomas Card 5 1 23695412 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Nova Edition 23 Frank Thomas Card 6 1 23695413 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card 6 2 23695414 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card 7 1 23695415 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 25 Frank Thomas Card 8 1 23695416 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card 8 2 23695417 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card 9 1 23695418 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card 9 2 23695419 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card 10 1 23695420 MINT 9 1992 Star Stellar Edition 2 Frank Thomas 1991 Season-1 Card 11 1 23695421 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 4 Frank Thomas Major League Highlights Card 12 1 23695422 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 7 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card 13 1 23695423 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 9 Frank Thomas Personal Info-2 Card 14 1 23695424 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 119 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card 15 1 23695425 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 123 Frank Thomas 1987 Season Card 16 1 23695426 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Silver Edition 124 Frank Thomas Minor League Info Card 17 1 23695427 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 126 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card 18 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Platinum Edition 99 George Brett Card 19 1 23695429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 98 George Brett Career Info 2 Card 20 1 23695430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 95 George Brett Card 21 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Gold Edition 162 Kirby Puckett Minor League Stats Card 22 1 23695432 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988-1989 Star Platinum 48 Don Mattingly Homers in 8 Straight Card 23 1 23695433 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 54 Will Clark 1985 Season Card 24 1 23695434 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 69 Wade Boggs Personal Data Card 25 1 23695435 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 67 Wade Boggs 200+ Hit Streak Card 26 1 23695436 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 64 Wade Boggs Post Season Stats Card 27 1 23695437 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 63 Wade Boggs All-Star Stats Card 28 1 23695438 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 62 Wade Boggs Minor League Stats Card 29 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card 30 1 23695440 MINT 9 1991 Star Nova Edition 88 Wade Boggs Records Card 31 1 23695441 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Nova Edition 33 Bo Jackson Pro Info 2 Card 32 1 23695442 MINT 9 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card Gary Carter Card 33 1 23695443 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 525 Dennis Eckersley Card 34 1 23695444 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 149 Mike Cubbage Card 35 1 23695445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 483 Richie Zisk Card 36 1 23695446 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 640 Bill Madlock Card 37 1 23695447 MINT 9 1976 Topps 216 Expos Team Checklist Card 38 1 23695448 MINT 9 1976 Topps 190 Jon Matlack Card 39 1 23695449 MINT 9 1976 Topps 477 Indians Team Card 40 1 23695450 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card 40 2 23695451 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card 41 1 23695452 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card George Brett Card 42 1 23695453 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Carl Yastrzemski Gold Card 43 1 23695454 MINT 9 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Pete Rose Gold Card 44 1 23695455 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Mitchell/Yount 5 Robin Yount World Series Stats Card 45 1 23695456 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Jackson/Larkin 7 Bo Jackson Pro Info 1 Card 46 1 23695457 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 4 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card 47 1 23695458 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 10 Frank Thomas Personal Info Card 48 1 23695459 MINT 9 1991 Star Thomas 11 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card 49 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 1 Ryne Sandberg Checklist-Glossy Card 50 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 2 Ryne Sandberg Minor Stats-Glossy Card 51 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 3 Ryne Sandberg Major Stats-Glossy Card 52 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 4 Ryne Sandberg All-Star Stats-Glossy Card 53 1 23695464 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 55 Ryne Sandberg Card 54 1 23695465 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 56 Ryne Sandberg Card 55 1 23695466 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 59 Ryne Sandberg Card 56 1 23695467 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 60 Ryne Sandberg Card 57 1 23695468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 in....ouch...now these are psa 10 and a few psa 9. I usually do good on these.
# 2 Pete Rose Master Set , also collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
grader of death is back. last sub was all psa 10 and a few psa 9's...this blows
1 1 23695407 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 19 Frank Thomas Card 2 1 23695408 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card 2 2 23695409 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card 3 1 23695410 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 21 Frank Thomas Card 4 1 23695411 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 22 Frank Thomas Card 5 1 23695412 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Nova Edition 23 Frank Thomas Card 6 1 23695413 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card 6 2 23695414 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card 7 1 23695415 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 25 Frank Thomas Card 8 1 23695416 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card 8 2 23695417 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card 9 1 23695418 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card 9 2 23695419 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card 10 1 23695420 MINT 9 1992 Star Stellar Edition 2 Frank Thomas 1991 Season-1 Card 11 1 23695421 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 4 Frank Thomas Major League Highlights Card 12 1 23695422 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 7 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card 13 1 23695423 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 9 Frank Thomas Personal Info-2 Card 14 1 23695424 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 119 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card 15 1 23695425 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 123 Frank Thomas 1987 Season Card 16 1 23695426 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Silver Edition 124 Frank Thomas Minor League Info Card 17 1 23695427 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 126 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card 18 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Platinum Edition 99 George Brett Card 19 1 23695429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 98 George Brett Career Info 2 Card 20 1 23695430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 95 George Brett Card 21 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Gold Edition 162 Kirby Puckett Minor League Stats Card 22 1 23695432 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988-1989 Star Platinum 48 Don Mattingly Homers in 8 Straight Card 23 1 23695433 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 54 Will Clark 1985 Season Card 24 1 23695434 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 69 Wade Boggs Personal Data Card 25 1 23695435 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 67 Wade Boggs 200+ Hit Streak Card 26 1 23695436 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 64 Wade Boggs Post Season Stats Card 27 1 23695437 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 63 Wade Boggs All-Star Stats Card 28 1 23695438 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 62 Wade Boggs Minor League Stats Card 29 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card 30 1 23695440 MINT 9 1991 Star Nova Edition 88 Wade Boggs Records Card 31 1 23695441 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Nova Edition 33 Bo Jackson Pro Info 2 Card 32 1 23695442 MINT 9 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card Gary Carter Card 33 1 23695443 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 525 Dennis Eckersley Card 34 1 23695444 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 149 Mike Cubbage Card 35 1 23695445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 483 Richie Zisk Card 36 1 23695446 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 640 Bill Madlock Card 37 1 23695447 MINT 9 1976 Topps 216 Expos Team Checklist Card 38 1 23695448 MINT 9 1976 Topps 190 Jon Matlack Card 39 1 23695449 MINT 9 1976 Topps 477 Indians Team Card 40 1 23695450 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card 40 2 23695451 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card 41 1 23695452 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card George Brett Card 42 1 23695453 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Carl Yastrzemski Gold Card 43 1 23695454 MINT 9 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Pete Rose Gold Card 44 1 23695455 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Mitchell/Yount 5 Robin Yount World Series Stats Card 45 1 23695456 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Jackson/Larkin 7 Bo Jackson Pro Info 1 Card 46 1 23695457 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 4 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card 47 1 23695458 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 10 Frank Thomas Personal Info Card 48 1 23695459 MINT 9 1991 Star Thomas 11 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card 49 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 1 Ryne Sandberg Checklist-Glossy Card 50 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 2 Ryne Sandberg Minor Stats-Glossy Card 51 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 3 Ryne Sandberg Major Stats-Glossy Card 52 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 4 Ryne Sandberg All-Star Stats-Glossy Card 53 1 23695464 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 55 Ryne Sandberg Card 54 1 23695465 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 56 Ryne Sandberg Card 55 1 23695466 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 59 Ryne Sandberg Card 56 1 23695467 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 60 Ryne Sandberg Card 57 1 23695468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8
# 2 Pete Rose Master Set , also collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
and the grader of death is back. last sub was 3/4 10's ..totally got ripped off by psa this time.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type 1 1 23695407 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 19 Frank Thomas Card 2 1 23695408 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card 2 2 23695409 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card 3 1 23695410 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 21 Frank Thomas Card 4 1 23695411 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 22 Frank Thomas Card 5 1 23695412 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Nova Edition 23 Frank Thomas Card 6 1 23695413 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card 6 2 23695414 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card 7 1 23695415 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 25 Frank Thomas Card 8 1 23695416 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card 8 2 23695417 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card 9 1 23695418 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card 9 2 23695419 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card 10 1 23695420 MINT 9 1992 Star Stellar Edition 2 Frank Thomas 1991 Season-1 Card 11 1 23695421 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 4 Frank Thomas Major League Highlights Card 12 1 23695422 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 7 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card 13 1 23695423 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 9 Frank Thomas Personal Info-2 Card 14 1 23695424 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 119 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card 15 1 23695425 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 123 Frank Thomas 1987 Season Card 16 1 23695426 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Silver Edition 124 Frank Thomas Minor League Info Card 17 1 23695427 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 126 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card 18 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Platinum Edition 99 George Brett Card 19 1 23695429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 98 George Brett Career Info 2 Card 20 1 23695430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 95 George Brett Card 21 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Gold Edition 162 Kirby Puckett Minor League Stats Card 22 1 23695432 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988-1989 Star Platinum 48 Don Mattingly Homers in 8 Straight Card 23 1 23695433 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 54 Will Clark 1985 Season Card 24 1 23695434 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 69 Wade Boggs Personal Data Card 25 1 23695435 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 67 Wade Boggs 200+ Hit Streak Card 26 1 23695436 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 64 Wade Boggs Post Season Stats Card 27 1 23695437 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 63 Wade Boggs All-Star Stats Card 28 1 23695438 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 62 Wade Boggs Minor League Stats Card 29 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card 30 1 23695440 MINT 9 1991 Star Nova Edition 88 Wade Boggs Records Card 31 1 23695441 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Nova Edition 33 Bo Jackson Pro Info 2 Card 32 1 23695442 MINT 9 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card Gary Carter Card 33 1 23695443 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 525 Dennis Eckersley Card 34 1 23695444 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 149 Mike Cubbage Card 35 1 23695445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 483 Richie Zisk Card 36 1 23695446 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 640 Bill Madlock Card 37 1 23695447 MINT 9 1976 Topps 216 Expos Team Checklist Card 38 1 23695448 MINT 9 1976 Topps 190 Jon Matlack Card 39 1 23695449 MINT 9 1976 Topps 477 Indians Team Card 40 1 23695450 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card 40 2 23695451 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card 41 1 23695452 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card George Brett Card 42 1 23695453 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Carl Yastrzemski Gold Card 43 1 23695454 MINT 9 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Pete Rose Gold Card 44 1 23695455 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Mitchell/Yount 5 Robin Yount World Series Stats Card 45 1 23695456 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Jackson/Larkin 7 Bo Jackson Pro Info 1 Card 46 1 23695457 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 4 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card 47 1 23695458 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 10 Frank Thomas Personal Info Card 48 1 23695459 MINT 9 1991 Star Thomas 11 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card 49 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 1 Ryne Sandberg Checklist-Glossy Card 50 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 2 Ryne Sandberg Minor Stats-Glossy Card 51 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 3 Ryne Sandberg Major Stats-Glossy Card 52 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 4 Ryne Sandberg All-Star Stats-Glossy Card 53 1 23695464 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 55 Ryne Sandberg Card 54 1 23695465 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 56 Ryne Sandberg Card 55 1 23695466 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 59 Ryne Sandberg Card 56 1 23695467 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 60 Ryne Sandberg Card 57 1 23695468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8
# 2 Pete Rose Master Set , also collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
Just a comment. I appreciate all the pos./neg. posted information about the grading "game". It assists me in determining which direction to consider going in as far as submissions go. What to look for in grades,modern,vintage, etc.
Successful transactions:Tookybandit. "Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others".
So by posting it 3 times here and you started another thread will make things better? I'll give you a pat on the back and tell you things are going to be okay buddy. Just take a deep breath and go ahead and let it all out. In the end, you have to tell yourself that there is no GOD, and you're just not looking at your cards close enough. If you feel the need to post the results 7 more times and complain a little harder....then (waving)
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I understand how you feel. Recently I had a 104 card submission yielding no 10s (posted below). I was pretty sure at least 10% would get 10.
When the grades came in I was pretty upset until I had them in hand and compared them to the only two tens I have (from a different sub). There's clearly a difference in the cards. I can detect something on all of the 9s but nothing on the 10s.
When I compare my 9s to 10s on eBay my cards blow those out of the water condition-wise.
The thing is, these cards are for my personal collection and I want no sympathy 10s. If there's something wrong I expect them to give me a 9.
Is PSA getting tougher on grades ( in particular 10s)? I hope so.
HOWEVER, what is most alarming about my sub is that there are zero .5 grades out of 41 8s. This is a red-flag that something isn't right.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type 1 1 23579073 MINT 9 1989 Topps 88 Luc Robitaille Card 2 1 23579074 MINT 9 1989 Topps 104 Mike Krushelnyski Card 3 1 23579075 MINT 9 1989 Topps 166 Kelly Hrudey Card 4 1 23579076 MINT 9 1989 Topps 85 Dave Volek Card 5 1 23579077 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 165 Mike Ridley Card 6 1 23579078 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 146 Kevin Hatcher Card 7 1 23579079 MINT 9 1989 Topps 93 Scott Stevens Card 8 1 23579080 MINT 9 1989 Topps 111 Geoff Courtnall Card 9 1 23579081 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 62 Ken Linseman Card 10 1 23579082 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 160 Andy Moog Card 11 1 23579083 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 71 Colin Patterson Card 12 1 23579084 MINT 9 1989 Topps 24 Brian Mullen Card 13 1 23579085 MINT 9 1989 Topps 114 John Vanbiesbrouck Card 14 1 23579086 MINT 9 1989 Topps 171 Kelly Kisio Card 15 1 23579087 MINT 9 1989 Topps 170 Clint Malarchuk Card 16 1 23579088 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 2 23579089 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 3 23579090 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 4 23579091 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 5 23579092 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 6 23579093 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 7 23579094 MINT 9 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 8 23579095 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 9 23579096 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 10 23579097 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 11 23579098 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 12 23579099 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 13 23579100 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 14 23579101 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 15 23579102 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 16 23579103 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 17 23579104 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 18 23579105 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 16 19 23579106 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card 17 1 23579107 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 2 23579108 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 3 23579109 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 4 23579110 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 5 23579111 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 6 23579112 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 7 23579113 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 8 23579114 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 9 23579115 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 10 23579116 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 11 23579117 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 12 23579118 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 13 23579119 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 14 23579120 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 15 23579121 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 17 16 23579122 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card 18 1 23579123 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 168 Zarley Zalapski Card 18 2 23579124 MINT 9 1989 Topps 168 Zarley Zalapski Card 19 1 23579125 MINT 9 1989 Topps 1 Mario Lemieux Card 19 2 23579126 MINT 9 1989 Topps 1 Mario Lemieux Card 19 3 23579127 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 1 Mario Lemieux Card 19 4 23579128 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 1 Mario Lemieux Card 20 1 23579129 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 152 Dan Quinn Card 20 2 23579130 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 152 Dan Quinn Card 20 3 23579131 MINT 9 1989 Topps 152 Dan Quinn Card 21 1 23579132 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 95 Paul Coffey Card 21 2 23579133 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 95 Paul Coffey Card 21 3 23579134 MINT 9 1989 Topps 95 Paul Coffey Card 21 4 23579135 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 95 Paul Coffey Card 22 1 23579136 MINT 9 1989 Topps 101 Shawn Burr Card 22 2 23579137 MINT 9 1989 Topps 101 Shawn Burr Card 23 1 23579138 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 144 Glen Hanlon Card 23 2 23579139 MINT 9 1989 Topps 144 Glen Hanlon Card 24 1 23579140 MINT 9 1989 Topps 83 Steve Yzerman Card 24 2 23579141 MINT 9 1989 Topps 83 Steve Yzerman Card 24 3 23579142 MINT 9 1989 Topps 83 Steve Yzerman Card 25 1 23579143 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 106 Dave Andreychuk Card 26 1 23579144 MINT 9 1989 Topps 125 Rick Vaive Card 27 1 23579145 MINT 9 1989 Topps 38 Andrew McBain Card 27 2 23579146 MINT 9 1989 Topps 38 Andrew McBain Card 28 1 23579147 MINT 9 1989 Topps 19 Phil Bourque Card 28 2 23579148 MINT 9 1989 Topps 19 Phil Bourque Card 29 1 23579149 MINT 9 1989 Topps 8 John Tonelli Card 30 1 23579150 MINT 9 1989 Topps 142 Shawn Chambers Card 31 1 23579151 MINT 9 1989 Topps 173 Ron Sutter Card 31 2 23579152 MINT 9 1989 Topps 173 Ron Sutter Card 32 1 23579153 MINT 9 1989 Topps 3 Terry Carkner Card 32 2 23579154 MINT 9 1989 Topps 3 Terry Carkner Card 33 1 23579155 MINT 9 1989 Topps 191 Mark Howe Card 34 1 23579156 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 80 Rick Tocchet Card 35 1 23579157 MINT 9 1989 Topps 72 Tim Kerr Card 36 1 23579158 MINT 9 1989 Topps 100 Kjell Samuelsson Card 37 1 23579159 MINT 9 1989 Topps 195 Pete Peeters Card 38 1 23579160 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 169 Derek Laxdal Card 38 2 23579161 MINT 9 1989 Topps 169 Derek Laxdal Card 39 1 23579162 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card 39 2 23579163 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card 39 3 23579164 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card 39 4 23579165 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card 39 5 23579166 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card 39 6 23579167 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card 40 1 23579168 MINT 9 1989 Topps 122 Dale Hawerchuk Card 40 2 23579169 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 122 Dale Hawerchuk Card 41 1 23579170 MINT 9 1989 Topps 98 Wayne Presley Card 42 1 23579171 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 52 Dirk Graham Card 42 2 23579172 MINT 9 1989 Topps 52 Dirk Graham Card 43 1 23579173 MINT 9 1989 Topps 132 Alain Chevrier Card 44 1 23579174 MINT 9 1989 Topps 5 Denis Savard Card 45 1 23579175 MINT 9 1989 Topps 179 Steve Larmer Card 46 1 23579176 MINT 9 1989 Topps 112 Doug Wilson Card Total Items: 104 Date Received: 10/16/2014 Date Shipped: N/A Order Status: OK
Great point on the .5s. There are definitely graders who do not use them, which begs the question; why? There are also graders who will 8.5 you to death at the expense of 9s, so personally, I kind of like the no .5 routine.
That said, humans grade and humans vary, no matter how much we wish they didn't or expect them to conform.
As the mini folks here know, I broke a beautiful case of 75 minis several years back, submitting close to 1700 cards across three subs.
Sub 1 - roughly 1% 10s, even split between 8s and 9s and few 7s. Sub 2 - roughly 1% 10s, even split between 8s and 9s and few 7s. Sub 3 - no 10s, 10% 9s, even split between 7s and 8s.
Exact same case, same break, everything the same. In today's dollars, you are talking about roughly 20k in raw cards plus fees for that third sub and it was nearly worthless. I lost my mind. Without getting into details, I reached out to Joe and to his credit, in the end he listened. As a result, I still sub to this day, but live in fear of the infamous GoD.
Lastly, to be fair, there is definitely a GoL element in play as well and I have been lucky enough to cross his desk with a few orders over the years as well.
Its been repeated above and in other threads but grading remains subjective. It also remains true that there are many cards that are graded 9 that would fit nicely in a 10 older. Also consider:
1. Take 50 of your cards and grade them. Write the grades down. Let them sit for six months and repeat the process. I guarantee your grades will change on a good number of the cards. Such really illustrates the nature of grading.
2. It would seem to me that human nature would be "I can't give all of these cards a 10" when a large submission comes in. "There is simply no way all can be 10s." That is an inherent mentality that is probably impossible to overcome. The grader does not know, for example, you went through 12,000 cards in a case and only submitted the "50 best." Perhaps the best way to minimize this hit is to do as others suggest and make smaller submissions (which, to me, is difficult to do since PSA specials are based on larger number submissions).
3. Imagine sitting in a darkened room looking at cards for eight hours a day as a full time job. I love cards as much as the next person but the simple fatigue and focus has to be extremely difficult to manage. That in turn can impact grades because lets be honest-- graders are human and will be impacted by various outside factors (sinus headache, stress at home, etc.) like all of us. That in turn can very well impact grades.
4. 10s are difficult. Very difficult. We all know they carry very high premiums. If they are handed out like candy, the premium of 10s will be lowered. Even so, we have all seen 10s where we can take exception to some imperfection on the card. In my view, I can only conclude the difference between a 9 and a 10 is highly discretionary and subjective.
If anything, what puzzles me the most from this and other threads is the dearth of .5 grades. I simply do not understand why PSA made the push for change to this .5 grading scale (for the record, I was not in favor of it happening) yet now seems to give it an after thought. I have seen many 8s that, if not passing as 9s, should at least receive the .5 bump.
At the end of the day, breathe and remember grading is subjective. There will be margins of difference; we should only really be alarmed if our expectations are consistently 2 or 3 grades higher than what we are receiving (if they are, you are not "calibrated" right to the PSA system). If you submit cards expecting 10s, you do have to realize many will most likely get 9s (see above). If you hit a high percentage of 9s when submitting expecting 10s, I would say your "PSA calibration" is accurate but your expectations are not.
<< <i>Its been repeated above and in other threads but grading remains subjective. It also remains true that there are many cards that are graded 9 that would fit nicely in a 10 older. Also consider:
1. Take 50 of your cards and grade them. Write the grades down. Let them sit for six months and repeat the process. I guarantee your grades will change on a good number of the cards. Such really illustrates the nature of grading.
2. It would seem to me that human nature would be "I can't give all of these cards a 10" when a large submission comes in. "There is simply no way all can be 10s." That is an inherent mentality that is probably impossible to overcome. The grader does not know, for example, you went through 12,000 cards in a case and only submitted the "50 best." Perhaps the best way to minimize this hit is to do as others suggest and make smaller submissions (which, to me, is difficult to do since PSA specials are based on larger number submissions).
3. Imagine sitting in a darkened room looking at cards for eight hours a day as a full time job. I love cards as much as the next person but the simple fatigue and focus has to be extremely difficult to manage. That in turn can impact grades because lets be honest-- graders are human and will be impacted by various outside factors (sinus headache, stress at home, etc.) like all of us. That in turn can very well impact grades.
4. 10s are difficult. Very difficult. We all know they carry very high premiums. If they are handed out like candy, the premium of 10s will be lowered. Even so, we have all seen 10s where we can take exception to some imperfection on the card. In my view, I can only conclude the difference between a 9 and a 10 is highly discretionary and subjective.
If anything, what puzzles me the most from this and other threads is the dearth of .5 grades. I simply do not understand why PSA made the push for change to this .5 grading scale (for the record, I was not in favor of it happening) yet now seems to give it an after thought. I have seen many 8s that, if not passing as 9s, should at least receive the .5 bump.
At the end of the day, breathe and remember grading is subjective. There will be margins of difference; we should only really be alarmed if our expectations are consistently 2 or 3 grades higher than what we are receiving (if they are, you are not "calibrated" right to the PSA system). If you submit cards expecting 10s, you do have to realize many will most likely get 9s (see above). If you hit a high percentage of 9s when submitting expecting 10s, I would say your "PSA calibration" is accurate but your expectations are not.
My half cent.
Matt >>
Great post. I've graded thousands of raw vintage cards for a shop over the years and I can tell you that your grades will vary slightly day to day, especially after you are doing it for 2+ straight hours. One day those touches on the corners look EX, the next day they don't seem bad at all and hit closer to Ex+ or Ex-Mt. Then there are times you look back at your "EX" pile, and you wonder what you were thinking that day.
The one thing we rarely get are scans of the cards graded by the grader of death. Post up some scans so some people here can let you know if you are missing something.
<< <i>Great point on the .5s. There are definitely graders who do not use them, which begs the question; why? There are also graders who will 8.5 you to death at the expense of 9s, so personally, I kind of like the no .5 routine.
That said, humans grade and humans vary, no matter how much we wish they didn't or expect them to conform.
As the mini folks here know, I broke a beautiful case of 75 minis several years back, submitting close to 1700 cards across three subs.
Sub 1 - roughly 1% 10s, even split between 8s and 9s and few 7s. Sub 2 - roughly 1% 10s, even split between 8s and 9s and few 7s. Sub 3 - no 10s, 10% 9s, even split between 7s and 8s.
Exact same case, same break, everything the same. In today's dollars, you are talking about roughly 20k in raw cards plus fees for that third sub and it was nearly worthless. I lost my mind. Without getting into details, I reached out to Joe and to his credit, in the end he listened. As a result, I still sub to this day, but live in fear of the infamous GoD.
Lastly, to be fair, there is definitely a GoL element in play as well and I have been lucky enough to cross his desk with a few orders over the years as well. >>
I had a similar experience with my 1969 set. I subbed it in blocks. The set was built card-by-card by me using consistent quality requirements before adding a card to my set. Most blocks I subbed had a distribution of roughly 25% 9s, 70% 8s and 5% 7 or lower (occasional 5/6 due to a missed light surface wrinkle). One block received about 75% 7s and 25% 8s. Similarly, I was able to get the worst undergrades reviewed and many bumped, one from a 7 to a 9. I think there are just cases where either a grader has a really bad day or there's a grader who hits cards particularly hard. I hope PSA periodically retests their graders over time to make sure their standards don't drift too much after reviewing thousands of cards.
For what it is worth, I own a loupe, but no longer use it. Too easy to talk yourself out of subbing cards. Since I switched to a jewelers magnified lamp I am much more consistent and successful with my subs.
As someone who has had a 6 bump to a 10 after cracked out, I have learned to accept the frustration and embrace the theory of "If the grade does not fit, then you must resubmit". In spite of the added expense.
<< <i>if your business model dictates that you need to get back cards graded as perfect, then your model is wrong. Just cause you have a large submission doesn't mean you deserve the wrong grade. Graders should grade based on the merits of each card, not the size of the order. >>
If you submit 500 cards in March and they grade 80% 8s vs submitting 500 cards in July and they grade 60% 9s, then that isn't the fault of the submitter. Basically what you are saying is nobody should be submitting modern cards since most are worthless in lower than 10 grade. I don't think this is the message PSA wants to convey to their customers. For the record, I don't submit post-1980 cards, so my model doesn't require PSA 10s. >>
I used to send in 2000-card submissions (all pre-1980) until a few years ago until this kind of thing started becoming the norm. Now I probably send in 50-100 cards in a year that have been very carefully examined and I seem to be getting results that are a lot more consistent and meeting expectations.
Grading is still just too "human-intensive" and subjective. A lot of technology exists that could really help PSA get things more consistent. At such time as they decide to go down that path I think they will see a decent pick-up in submission levels from those of us who will no longer tolerate mass grading using a less than state-of-the-art methodology.
As someone who has had a 6 bump to a 10 after cracked out, I have learned to accept the frustration and embrace the theory of "If the grade does not fit, then you must resubmit". In spite of the added expense.
I always write down what grade I am expecting before sending the cards away. Then I compare with the actual grades received. The correlation on last sub was about 80%. There were a couple head scratchers that were 3 grades too low and some 10's that only received 9's. Some were higher than expected by one grade. No .5 grades were received.
<< <i>That in turn can impact grades because lets be honest-- graders are human and will be impacted by various outside factors (sinus headache, stress at home, etc.) like all of us. >>
Hmmm ... so MAYBE it would be a good idea to try to have your cards graded the next business day after Valentine's Day!
STAY HEALTHY!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
For what it is worth, I own a loupe, but no longer use it. Too easy to talk yourself out of subbing cards. Since I switched to a jewelers magnified lamp I am much more consistent and successful with my subs. >>
Would you mind posting a picture of that lamp and maybe a few details? I searched 'jewelers magnified lamp' on eBay and got lots of different items. I'd like to know more so that I can look into purchasing one. Thank you.
<< <i>That in turn can impact grades because lets be honest-- graders are human and will be impacted by various outside factors (sinus headache, stress at home, etc.) like all of us. >>
Hmmm ... so MAYBE it would be a good idea to try to have your cards graded the next business day after Valentine's Day! >>
Card graders might just be a bit more frustrated the day after Valentine's Day than most, so you may actually have a greater chance of finding the G.O.D.
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Based on your Valentine's Day comment, I believe we have polar opposite impressions of the average social life of a baseball card collector/grader.
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<< <i>I always write down what grade I am expecting before sending the cards away. Then I compare with the actual grades received. The correlation on last sub was about 80%. There were a couple head scratchers that were 3 grades too low and some 10's that only received 9's. Some were higher than expected by one grade. No .5 grades were received. >>
I do this as well, and I might also add a + or - after my expected grade. I might write, for instance "9-" if I think it's a low end 9, and if it comes back as an 8 then I leave it. But if I had written "9" or "9+" and it is returned an 8 then it goes in the re-sub pile. This is very helpful to me since months can pass between submission and grading and I had long forgotten any expected grades.
I had to get myself a drink after seeing this. My condolences.
<< <i>1 1 23089476 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 16 Darryl Strawberry Card 1 2 23089477 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 16 Darryl Strawberry Card 1 3 23089478 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 16 Darryl Strawberry Card 1 4 23089479 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 16 Darryl Strawberry Card 2 1 23089480 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 18 Danny Tartabull Card 2 2 23089481 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 18 Danny Tartabull Card 3 1 23089482 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 17 Cal Ripken Jr. Card 3 2 23089483 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 17 Cal Ripken Jr. Card 3 3 23089484 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 17 Cal Ripken Jr. Card 4 1 23089485 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 15 Ken Griffey Jr. Card 4 2 23089486 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 15 Ken Griffey Jr. Card 4 3 23089487 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 15 Ken Griffey Jr. Card 4 4 23089488 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 15 Ken Griffey Jr. Card 5 1 23089489 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 14 Joe Carter Card 5 2 23089490 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 14 Joe Carter Card 6 1 23089491 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 13 Wade Boggs Card 7 1 23089492 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 19 Jose Canseco Card 8 1 23089493 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 157 Thurman Munson Card 9 1 23089494 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 234 Dave Concepcion Card 10 1 23089495 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Tony Gwynn Card 11 1 23089496 MINT 9 1984 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Dave Winfield Card 12 1 23089497 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Dwight Gooden Card 13 1 23089498 MINT 9 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut D.Murphy/D.Parker Card 14 1 23089499 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Fernando Valenzuela Card 15 1 23089500 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Gary Carter Card 16 1 23089501 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Carlton Fisk Card 17 1 23089502 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Carl Yastrzemski Card 18 1 23089503 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Eddie Murray Card 19 1 23089504 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Rod Carew Card 20 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card 21 1 23089506 MINT 9 1990 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides-Hand Cut 12 Bo Jackson Card 22 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card 23 1 23089508 NEAR MINT 7 1992 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides 8 Bo Jackson Card 24 1 23089509 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Little Big Leaguers Perforated Ken Griffey Jr. Card 25 1 23089510 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 11 Ryne Sandberg Perforated Card 26 1 23089511 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 5 Ozzie Smith Perforated Card 27 1 23089512 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 20 Rickey Henderson Perforated Card 28 1 23089513 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 23 Roger Clemens Perforated Card 29 1 23089514 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 2 Eric Davis Perforated Card 30 1 23089515 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 10 Gary Carter Perforated Card 31 1 23089516 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides 45 Ken Griffey Jr. Hand Cut Card 32 1 23089517 EXCELLENT 5 1991 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides 38 Kirby Puckett Hand Cut Card 33 1 23089518 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides 26 Dale Murphy Hand Cut Card 34 1 23089519 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 8 Juan Gonzalez Card 34 2 23089520 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 8 Juan Gonzalez Card 35 1 23089521 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 2 Mark McGwire Card 35 2 23089522 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 2 Mark McGwire Card 35 3 23089523 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 2 Mark McGwire Card 35 4 23089524 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 2 Mark McGwire Card 36 1 23089525 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card 36 2 23089526 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card 36 3 23089527 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card 36 4 23089528 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card 36 5 23089529 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card 36 6 23089530 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card 36 7 23089531 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card 37 1 23089532 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 10 Ken Griffey Jr. Card 37 2 23089533 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 10 Ken Griffey Jr. Card 37 3 23089534 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 10 Ken Griffey Jr. Card 37 4 23089535 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 10 Ken Griffey Jr. Card 38 1 23089536 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card 38 2 23089537 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card 38 3 23089538 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card 38 4 23089539 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card 38 5 23089540 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card 39 1 23089541 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card 39 2 23089542 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card 39 3 23089543 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card 39 4 23089544 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card 39 5 23089545 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card 39 6 23089546 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card 39 7 23089547 GEM MINT 10 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card 40 1 23089548 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 9 Roberto Alomar Card 40 2 23089549 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 9 Roberto Alomar Card 41 1 23089550 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 7 Brady Anderson Card 42 1 23089551 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 6 Carlos Baerga Card 43 1 23089552 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 3 Pat Listach Card >>
They should video record a grader grading a card and have the grader mention everything wrong with the card and what he's looking for; all the while viewing his hands handling the card.. . Of course you can censor his face and disguise his voice. They can post it on the website.
<< <i>They should video record a grader grading a card and have the grader mention everything wrong with the card and what he's looking for; all the while viewing his hands handling the card.. . Of course you can censor his face and disguise his voice. They can post it on the website. >>
Great idea, shine a light on the coach roaches. However it will never happen-----conflict of interest?
Comments
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 23695407 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 19 Frank Thomas Card
2 1 23695408 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card
2 2 23695409 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card
3 1 23695410 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 21 Frank Thomas Card
4 1 23695411 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 22 Frank Thomas Card
5 1 23695412 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Nova Edition 23 Frank Thomas Card
6 1 23695413 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card
6 2 23695414 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card
7 1 23695415 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 25 Frank Thomas Card
8 1 23695416 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card
8 2 23695417 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card
9 1 23695418 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card
9 2 23695419 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card
10 1 23695420 MINT 9 1992 Star Stellar Edition 2 Frank Thomas 1991 Season-1 Card
11 1 23695421 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 4 Frank Thomas Major League Highlights Card
12 1 23695422 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 7 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card
13 1 23695423 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 9 Frank Thomas Personal Info-2 Card
14 1 23695424 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 119 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card
15 1 23695425 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 123 Frank Thomas 1987 Season Card
16 1 23695426 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Silver Edition 124 Frank Thomas Minor League Info Card
17 1 23695427 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 126 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card
18 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Platinum Edition 99 George Brett Card
19 1 23695429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 98 George Brett Career Info 2 Card
20 1 23695430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 95 George Brett Card
21 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Gold Edition 162 Kirby Puckett Minor League Stats Card
22 1 23695432 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988-1989 Star Platinum 48 Don Mattingly Homers in 8 Straight Card
23 1 23695433 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 54 Will Clark 1985 Season Card
24 1 23695434 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 69 Wade Boggs Personal Data Card
25 1 23695435 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 67 Wade Boggs 200+ Hit Streak Card
26 1 23695436 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 64 Wade Boggs Post Season Stats Card
27 1 23695437 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 63 Wade Boggs All-Star Stats Card
28 1 23695438 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 62 Wade Boggs Minor League Stats Card
29 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
30 1 23695440 MINT 9 1991 Star Nova Edition 88 Wade Boggs Records Card
31 1 23695441 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Nova Edition 33 Bo Jackson Pro Info 2 Card
32 1 23695442 MINT 9 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card Gary Carter Card
33 1 23695443 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 525 Dennis Eckersley Card
34 1 23695444 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 149 Mike Cubbage Card
35 1 23695445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 483 Richie Zisk Card
36 1 23695446 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 640 Bill Madlock Card
37 1 23695447 MINT 9 1976 Topps 216 Expos Team Checklist Card
38 1 23695448 MINT 9 1976 Topps 190 Jon Matlack Card
39 1 23695449 MINT 9 1976 Topps 477 Indians Team Card
40 1 23695450 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card
40 2 23695451 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card
41 1 23695452 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card George Brett Card
42 1 23695453 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Carl Yastrzemski Gold Card
43 1 23695454 MINT 9 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Pete Rose Gold Card
44 1 23695455 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Mitchell/Yount 5 Robin Yount World Series Stats Card
45 1 23695456 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Jackson/Larkin 7 Bo Jackson Pro Info 1 Card
46 1 23695457 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 4 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card
47 1 23695458 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 10 Frank Thomas Personal Info Card
48 1 23695459 MINT 9 1991 Star Thomas 11 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card
49 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 1 Ryne Sandberg Checklist-Glossy Card
50 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 2 Ryne Sandberg Minor Stats-Glossy Card
51 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 3 Ryne Sandberg Major Stats-Glossy Card
52 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 4 Ryne Sandberg All-Star Stats-Glossy Card
53 1 23695464 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 55 Ryne Sandberg Card
54 1 23695465 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 56 Ryne Sandberg Card
55 1 23695466 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 59 Ryne Sandberg Card
56 1 23695467 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 60 Ryne Sandberg Card
57 1 23695468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8
in....ouch...now these are psa 10 and a few psa 9. I usually do good on these.
collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
1 1 23695407 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 19 Frank Thomas Card
2 1 23695408 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card
2 2 23695409 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card
3 1 23695410 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 21 Frank Thomas Card
4 1 23695411 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 22 Frank Thomas Card
5 1 23695412 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Nova Edition 23 Frank Thomas Card
6 1 23695413 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card
6 2 23695414 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card
7 1 23695415 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 25 Frank Thomas Card
8 1 23695416 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card
8 2 23695417 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card
9 1 23695418 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card
9 2 23695419 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card
10 1 23695420 MINT 9 1992 Star Stellar Edition 2 Frank Thomas 1991 Season-1 Card
11 1 23695421 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 4 Frank Thomas Major League Highlights Card
12 1 23695422 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 7 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card
13 1 23695423 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 9 Frank Thomas Personal Info-2 Card
14 1 23695424 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 119 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card
15 1 23695425 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 123 Frank Thomas 1987 Season Card
16 1 23695426 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Silver Edition 124 Frank Thomas Minor League Info Card
17 1 23695427 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 126 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card
18 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Platinum Edition 99 George Brett Card
19 1 23695429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 98 George Brett Career Info 2 Card
20 1 23695430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 95 George Brett Card
21 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Gold Edition 162 Kirby Puckett Minor League Stats Card
22 1 23695432 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988-1989 Star Platinum 48 Don Mattingly Homers in 8 Straight Card
23 1 23695433 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 54 Will Clark 1985 Season Card
24 1 23695434 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 69 Wade Boggs Personal Data Card
25 1 23695435 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 67 Wade Boggs 200+ Hit Streak Card
26 1 23695436 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 64 Wade Boggs Post Season Stats Card
27 1 23695437 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 63 Wade Boggs All-Star Stats Card
28 1 23695438 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 62 Wade Boggs Minor League Stats Card
29 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
30 1 23695440 MINT 9 1991 Star Nova Edition 88 Wade Boggs Records Card
31 1 23695441 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Nova Edition 33 Bo Jackson Pro Info 2 Card
32 1 23695442 MINT 9 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card Gary Carter Card
33 1 23695443 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 525 Dennis Eckersley Card
34 1 23695444 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 149 Mike Cubbage Card
35 1 23695445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 483 Richie Zisk Card
36 1 23695446 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 640 Bill Madlock Card
37 1 23695447 MINT 9 1976 Topps 216 Expos Team Checklist Card
38 1 23695448 MINT 9 1976 Topps 190 Jon Matlack Card
39 1 23695449 MINT 9 1976 Topps 477 Indians Team Card
40 1 23695450 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card
40 2 23695451 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card
41 1 23695452 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card George Brett Card
42 1 23695453 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Carl Yastrzemski Gold Card
43 1 23695454 MINT 9 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Pete Rose Gold Card
44 1 23695455 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Mitchell/Yount 5 Robin Yount World Series Stats Card
45 1 23695456 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Jackson/Larkin 7 Bo Jackson Pro Info 1 Card
46 1 23695457 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 4 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card
47 1 23695458 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 10 Frank Thomas Personal Info Card
48 1 23695459 MINT 9 1991 Star Thomas 11 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card
49 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 1 Ryne Sandberg Checklist-Glossy Card
50 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 2 Ryne Sandberg Minor Stats-Glossy Card
51 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 3 Ryne Sandberg Major Stats-Glossy Card
52 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 4 Ryne Sandberg All-Star Stats-Glossy Card
53 1 23695464 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 55 Ryne Sandberg Card
54 1 23695465 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 56 Ryne Sandberg Card
55 1 23695466 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 59 Ryne Sandberg Card
56 1 23695467 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 60 Ryne Sandberg Card
57 1 23695468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8
collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 23695407 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 19 Frank Thomas Card
2 1 23695408 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card
2 2 23695409 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 20 Frank Thomas Card
3 1 23695410 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 21 Frank Thomas Card
4 1 23695411 MINT 9 1992 Star Nova Edition 22 Frank Thomas Card
5 1 23695412 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Nova Edition 23 Frank Thomas Card
6 1 23695413 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card
6 2 23695414 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 24 Frank Thomas Card
7 1 23695415 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 25 Frank Thomas Card
8 1 23695416 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card
8 2 23695417 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 26 Frank Thomas Card
9 1 23695418 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card
9 2 23695419 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Star Nova Edition 27 Frank Thomas Card
10 1 23695420 MINT 9 1992 Star Stellar Edition 2 Frank Thomas 1991 Season-1 Card
11 1 23695421 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 4 Frank Thomas Major League Highlights Card
12 1 23695422 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 7 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card
13 1 23695423 GEM MINT 10 1992 Star Stellar Edition 9 Frank Thomas Personal Info-2 Card
14 1 23695424 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 119 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card
15 1 23695425 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 123 Frank Thomas 1987 Season Card
16 1 23695426 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Silver Edition 124 Frank Thomas Minor League Info Card
17 1 23695427 MINT 9 1991 Star Silver Edition 126 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card
18 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Platinum Edition 99 George Brett Card
19 1 23695429 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 98 George Brett Career Info 2 Card
20 1 23695430 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Star Platinum Edition 95 George Brett Card
21 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1988 Star Gold Edition 162 Kirby Puckett Minor League Stats Card
22 1 23695432 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988-1989 Star Platinum 48 Don Mattingly Homers in 8 Straight Card
23 1 23695433 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 54 Will Clark 1985 Season Card
24 1 23695434 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 69 Wade Boggs Personal Data Card
25 1 23695435 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 67 Wade Boggs 200+ Hit Streak Card
26 1 23695436 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 64 Wade Boggs Post Season Stats Card
27 1 23695437 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 63 Wade Boggs All-Star Stats Card
28 1 23695438 MINT 9 1988 Star Gold Edition 62 Wade Boggs Minor League Stats Card
29 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
30 1 23695440 MINT 9 1991 Star Nova Edition 88 Wade Boggs Records Card
31 1 23695441 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Nova Edition 33 Bo Jackson Pro Info 2 Card
32 1 23695442 MINT 9 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card Gary Carter Card
33 1 23695443 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 525 Dennis Eckersley Card
34 1 23695444 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 149 Mike Cubbage Card
35 1 23695445 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1977 Topps 483 Richie Zisk Card
36 1 23695446 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1976 Topps 640 Bill Madlock Card
37 1 23695447 MINT 9 1976 Topps 216 Expos Team Checklist Card
38 1 23695448 MINT 9 1976 Topps 190 Jon Matlack Card
39 1 23695449 MINT 9 1976 Topps 477 Indians Team Card
40 1 23695450 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card
40 2 23695451 MINT 9 1976 Topps 195 N.L. RBI Leaders Luzinski/Bench/Perez Card
41 1 23695452 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1981 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Card George Brett Card
42 1 23695453 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Carl Yastrzemski Gold Card
43 1 23695454 MINT 9 1982 Perma-Graphics Super Star Credit Cards Pete Rose Gold Card
44 1 23695455 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Mitchell/Yount 5 Robin Yount World Series Stats Card
45 1 23695456 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1990 Star Jackson/Larkin 7 Bo Jackson Pro Info 1 Card
46 1 23695457 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 4 Frank Thomas 1990 Season-1 Card
47 1 23695458 GEM MINT 10 1991 Star Thomas 10 Frank Thomas Personal Info Card
48 1 23695459 MINT 9 1991 Star Thomas 11 Frank Thomas Personal Data Card
49 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 1 Ryne Sandberg Checklist-Glossy Card
50 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 2 Ryne Sandberg Minor Stats-Glossy Card
51 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 3 Ryne Sandberg Major Stats-Glossy Card
52 1 N6: MINIMUM SIZE REQUIREMENT 1990 Star Sandberg 4 Ryne Sandberg All-Star Stats-Glossy Card
53 1 23695464 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 55 Ryne Sandberg Card
54 1 23695465 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 56 Ryne Sandberg Card
55 1 23695466 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 59 Ryne Sandberg Card
56 1 23695467 MINT 9 1992 Star Gold Edition 60 Ryne Sandberg Card
57 1 23695468 NEAR MINT-MINT 8
collecting 1977 topps baseball in psa 9 and psa 10
I'll give you a pat on the back and tell you things are going to be okay buddy. Just take a deep breath and go ahead and let it all out.
In the end, you have to tell yourself that there is no GOD, and you're just not looking at your cards close enough.
If you feel the need to post the results 7 more times and complain a little harder....then (waving)
Do you submit cards? Just wondering.
Don't waste your time and fees listing on ebay before getting in touch me by PM or at gregmo32@aol.com !
When the grades came in I was pretty upset until I had them in hand and compared them to the only two tens I have (from a different sub). There's clearly a difference in the cards. I can detect something on all of the 9s but nothing on the 10s.
When I compare my 9s to 10s on eBay my cards blow those out of the water condition-wise.
The thing is, these cards are for my personal collection and I want no sympathy 10s. If there's something wrong I expect them to give me a 9.
Is PSA getting tougher on grades ( in particular 10s)? I hope so.
HOWEVER, what is most alarming about my sub is that there are zero .5 grades out of 41 8s. This is a red-flag that something isn't right.
Line # Item # Cert # Grade Description Type
1 1 23579073 MINT 9 1989 Topps 88 Luc Robitaille Card
2 1 23579074 MINT 9 1989 Topps 104 Mike Krushelnyski Card
3 1 23579075 MINT 9 1989 Topps 166 Kelly Hrudey Card
4 1 23579076 MINT 9 1989 Topps 85 Dave Volek Card
5 1 23579077 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 165 Mike Ridley Card
6 1 23579078 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 146 Kevin Hatcher Card
7 1 23579079 MINT 9 1989 Topps 93 Scott Stevens Card
8 1 23579080 MINT 9 1989 Topps 111 Geoff Courtnall Card
9 1 23579081 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 62 Ken Linseman Card
10 1 23579082 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 160 Andy Moog Card
11 1 23579083 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 71 Colin Patterson Card
12 1 23579084 MINT 9 1989 Topps 24 Brian Mullen Card
13 1 23579085 MINT 9 1989 Topps 114 John Vanbiesbrouck Card
14 1 23579086 MINT 9 1989 Topps 171 Kelly Kisio Card
15 1 23579087 MINT 9 1989 Topps 170 Clint Malarchuk Card
16 1 23579088 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 2 23579089 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 3 23579090 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 4 23579091 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 5 23579092 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 6 23579093 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 7 23579094 MINT 9 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 8 23579095 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 9 23579096 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 10 23579097 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 11 23579098 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 12 23579099 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 13 23579100 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 14 23579101 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 15 23579102 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 16 23579103 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 17 23579104 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 18 23579105 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
16 19 23579106 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 113 Joe Sakic Card
17 1 23579107 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 2 23579108 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 3 23579109 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 4 23579110 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 5 23579111 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 6 23579112 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 7 23579113 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 8 23579114 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 9 23579115 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 10 23579116 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 11 23579117 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 12 23579118 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 13 23579119 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 14 23579120 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 15 23579121 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
17 16 23579122 MINT 9 1989 Topps 156 Wayne Gretzky Card
18 1 23579123 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 168 Zarley Zalapski Card
18 2 23579124 MINT 9 1989 Topps 168 Zarley Zalapski Card
19 1 23579125 MINT 9 1989 Topps 1 Mario Lemieux Card
19 2 23579126 MINT 9 1989 Topps 1 Mario Lemieux Card
19 3 23579127 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 1 Mario Lemieux Card
19 4 23579128 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 1 Mario Lemieux Card
20 1 23579129 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 152 Dan Quinn Card
20 2 23579130 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 152 Dan Quinn Card
20 3 23579131 MINT 9 1989 Topps 152 Dan Quinn Card
21 1 23579132 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 95 Paul Coffey Card
21 2 23579133 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 95 Paul Coffey Card
21 3 23579134 MINT 9 1989 Topps 95 Paul Coffey Card
21 4 23579135 NEAR MINT 7 1989 Topps 95 Paul Coffey Card
22 1 23579136 MINT 9 1989 Topps 101 Shawn Burr Card
22 2 23579137 MINT 9 1989 Topps 101 Shawn Burr Card
23 1 23579138 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 144 Glen Hanlon Card
23 2 23579139 MINT 9 1989 Topps 144 Glen Hanlon Card
24 1 23579140 MINT 9 1989 Topps 83 Steve Yzerman Card
24 2 23579141 MINT 9 1989 Topps 83 Steve Yzerman Card
24 3 23579142 MINT 9 1989 Topps 83 Steve Yzerman Card
25 1 23579143 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 106 Dave Andreychuk Card
26 1 23579144 MINT 9 1989 Topps 125 Rick Vaive Card
27 1 23579145 MINT 9 1989 Topps 38 Andrew McBain Card
27 2 23579146 MINT 9 1989 Topps 38 Andrew McBain Card
28 1 23579147 MINT 9 1989 Topps 19 Phil Bourque Card
28 2 23579148 MINT 9 1989 Topps 19 Phil Bourque Card
29 1 23579149 MINT 9 1989 Topps 8 John Tonelli Card
30 1 23579150 MINT 9 1989 Topps 142 Shawn Chambers Card
31 1 23579151 MINT 9 1989 Topps 173 Ron Sutter Card
31 2 23579152 MINT 9 1989 Topps 173 Ron Sutter Card
32 1 23579153 MINT 9 1989 Topps 3 Terry Carkner Card
32 2 23579154 MINT 9 1989 Topps 3 Terry Carkner Card
33 1 23579155 MINT 9 1989 Topps 191 Mark Howe Card
34 1 23579156 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 80 Rick Tocchet Card
35 1 23579157 MINT 9 1989 Topps 72 Tim Kerr Card
36 1 23579158 MINT 9 1989 Topps 100 Kjell Samuelsson Card
37 1 23579159 MINT 9 1989 Topps 195 Pete Peeters Card
38 1 23579160 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 169 Derek Laxdal Card
38 2 23579161 MINT 9 1989 Topps 169 Derek Laxdal Card
39 1 23579162 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card
39 2 23579163 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card
39 3 23579164 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card
39 4 23579165 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card
39 5 23579166 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card
39 6 23579167 MINT 9 1989 Topps 65 Mark Messier Card
40 1 23579168 MINT 9 1989 Topps 122 Dale Hawerchuk Card
40 2 23579169 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 122 Dale Hawerchuk Card
41 1 23579170 MINT 9 1989 Topps 98 Wayne Presley Card
42 1 23579171 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1989 Topps 52 Dirk Graham Card
42 2 23579172 MINT 9 1989 Topps 52 Dirk Graham Card
43 1 23579173 MINT 9 1989 Topps 132 Alain Chevrier Card
44 1 23579174 MINT 9 1989 Topps 5 Denis Savard Card
45 1 23579175 MINT 9 1989 Topps 179 Steve Larmer Card
46 1 23579176 MINT 9 1989 Topps 112 Doug Wilson Card
Total Items: 104
Date Received: 10/16/2014
Date Shipped: N/A
Order Status: OK
Jeff
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
That said, humans grade and humans vary, no matter how much we wish they didn't or expect them to conform.
As the mini folks here know, I broke a beautiful case of 75 minis several years back, submitting close to 1700 cards across three subs.
Sub 1 - roughly 1% 10s, even split between 8s and 9s and few 7s.
Sub 2 - roughly 1% 10s, even split between 8s and 9s and few 7s.
Sub 3 - no 10s, 10% 9s, even split between 7s and 8s.
Exact same case, same break, everything the same. In today's dollars, you are talking about roughly 20k in raw cards plus fees for that third sub and it was nearly worthless. I lost my mind. Without getting into details, I reached out to Joe and to his credit, in the end he listened. As a result, I still sub to this day, but live in fear of the infamous GoD.
Lastly, to be fair, there is definitely a GoL element in play as well and I have been lucky enough to cross his desk with a few orders over the years as well.
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1. Take 50 of your cards and grade them. Write the grades down. Let them sit for six months and repeat the process. I guarantee your grades will change on a good number of the cards. Such really illustrates the nature of grading.
2. It would seem to me that human nature would be "I can't give all of these cards a 10" when a large submission comes in. "There is simply no way all can be 10s." That is an inherent mentality that is probably impossible to overcome. The grader does not know, for example, you went through 12,000 cards in a case and only submitted the "50 best." Perhaps the best way to minimize this hit is to do as others suggest and make smaller submissions (which, to me, is difficult to do since PSA specials are based on larger number submissions).
3. Imagine sitting in a darkened room looking at cards for eight hours a day as a full time job. I love cards as much as the next person but the simple fatigue and focus has to be extremely difficult to manage. That in turn can impact grades because lets be honest-- graders are human and will be impacted by various outside factors (sinus headache, stress at home, etc.) like all of us. That in turn can very well impact grades.
4. 10s are difficult. Very difficult. We all know they carry very high premiums. If they are handed out like candy, the premium of 10s will be lowered. Even so, we have all seen 10s where we can take exception to some imperfection on the card. In my view, I can only conclude the difference between a 9 and a 10 is highly discretionary and subjective.
If anything, what puzzles me the most from this and other threads is the dearth of .5 grades. I simply do not understand why PSA made the push for change to this .5 grading scale (for the record, I was not in favor of it happening) yet now seems to give it an after thought. I have seen many 8s that, if not passing as 9s, should at least receive the .5 bump.
At the end of the day, breathe and remember grading is subjective. There will be margins of difference; we should only really be alarmed if our expectations are consistently 2 or 3 grades higher than what we are receiving (if they are, you are not "calibrated" right to the PSA system). If you submit cards expecting 10s, you do have to realize many will most likely get 9s (see above). If you hit a high percentage of 9s when submitting expecting 10s, I would say your "PSA calibration" is accurate but your expectations are not.
My half cent.
Matt
<< <i>Its been repeated above and in other threads but grading remains subjective. It also remains true that there are many cards that are graded 9 that would fit nicely in a 10 older. Also consider:
1. Take 50 of your cards and grade them. Write the grades down. Let them sit for six months and repeat the process. I guarantee your grades will change on a good number of the cards. Such really illustrates the nature of grading.
2. It would seem to me that human nature would be "I can't give all of these cards a 10" when a large submission comes in. "There is simply no way all can be 10s." That is an inherent mentality that is probably impossible to overcome. The grader does not know, for example, you went through 12,000 cards in a case and only submitted the "50 best." Perhaps the best way to minimize this hit is to do as others suggest and make smaller submissions (which, to me, is difficult to do since PSA specials are based on larger number submissions).
3. Imagine sitting in a darkened room looking at cards for eight hours a day as a full time job. I love cards as much as the next person but the simple fatigue and focus has to be extremely difficult to manage. That in turn can impact grades because lets be honest-- graders are human and will be impacted by various outside factors (sinus headache, stress at home, etc.) like all of us. That in turn can very well impact grades.
4. 10s are difficult. Very difficult. We all know they carry very high premiums. If they are handed out like candy, the premium of 10s will be lowered. Even so, we have all seen 10s where we can take exception to some imperfection on the card. In my view, I can only conclude the difference between a 9 and a 10 is highly discretionary and subjective.
If anything, what puzzles me the most from this and other threads is the dearth of .5 grades. I simply do not understand why PSA made the push for change to this .5 grading scale (for the record, I was not in favor of it happening) yet now seems to give it an after thought. I have seen many 8s that, if not passing as 9s, should at least receive the .5 bump.
At the end of the day, breathe and remember grading is subjective. There will be margins of difference; we should only really be alarmed if our expectations are consistently 2 or 3 grades higher than what we are receiving (if they are, you are not "calibrated" right to the PSA system). If you submit cards expecting 10s, you do have to realize many will most likely get 9s (see above). If you hit a high percentage of 9s when submitting expecting 10s, I would say your "PSA calibration" is accurate but your expectations are not.
My half cent.
Matt >>
Great post. I've graded thousands of raw vintage cards for a shop over the years and I can tell you that your grades will vary slightly day to day, especially after you are doing it for 2+ straight hours. One day those touches on the corners look EX, the next day they don't seem bad at all and hit closer to Ex+ or Ex-Mt. Then there are times you look back at your "EX" pile, and you wonder what you were thinking that day.
The one thing we rarely get are scans of the cards graded by the grader of death. Post up some scans so some people here can let you know if you are missing something.
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
<< <i>The number of 10's I have received has increased ever since I started using a loupe and really really going over each card before subbing. >>
That's interesting because from what I have read the graders do not even use one.
<< <i>Great point on the .5s. There are definitely graders who do not use them, which begs the question; why? There are also graders who will 8.5 you to death at the expense of 9s, so personally, I kind of like the no .5 routine.
That said, humans grade and humans vary, no matter how much we wish they didn't or expect them to conform.
As the mini folks here know, I broke a beautiful case of 75 minis several years back, submitting close to 1700 cards across three subs.
Sub 1 - roughly 1% 10s, even split between 8s and 9s and few 7s.
Sub 2 - roughly 1% 10s, even split between 8s and 9s and few 7s.
Sub 3 - no 10s, 10% 9s, even split between 7s and 8s.
Exact same case, same break, everything the same. In today's dollars, you are talking about roughly 20k in raw cards plus fees for that third sub and it was nearly worthless. I lost my mind. Without getting into details, I reached out to Joe and to his credit, in the end he listened. As a result, I still sub to this day, but live in fear of the infamous GoD.
Lastly, to be fair, there is definitely a GoL element in play as well and I have been lucky enough to cross his desk with a few orders over the years as well. >>
I had a similar experience with my 1969 set. I subbed it in blocks. The set was built card-by-card by me using consistent quality requirements before adding a card to my set. Most blocks I subbed had a distribution of roughly 25% 9s, 70% 8s and 5% 7 or lower (occasional 5/6 due to a missed light surface wrinkle). One block received about 75% 7s and 25% 8s. Similarly, I was able to get the worst undergrades reviewed and many bumped, one from a 7 to a 9. I think there are just cases where either a grader has a really bad day or there's a grader who hits cards particularly hard. I hope PSA periodically retests their graders over time to make sure their standards don't drift too much after reviewing thousands of cards.
<< <i>The one thing we rarely get are scans of the cards graded by the grader of death. >>
Representative sample. Have at it.
<< <i>
3. Imagine sitting in a darkened room looking at cards for eight hours a day as a full time job. >>
Now I see the problem - grading in the dark. Turn on the lights, folks. I knew my cards were better.
<< <i>Representative sample. Have at it. >>
Top corners.
For what it is worth, I own a loupe, but no longer use it. Too easy to talk yourself out of subbing cards. Since I switched to a jewelers magnified lamp I am much more consistent and successful with my subs.
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<< <i>..... Since I switched to a jewelers magnified lamp I am much more consistent and successful with my subs. >>
I've been pleased with the magnified lamp.
Thanks,
David (LD_Ferg)
1985 Topps Football (starting in psa 8) - #9 - started 05/21/06
Late 60's and early to mid 70's non-sports
<< <i>
<< <i>if your business model dictates that you need to get back cards graded as perfect, then your model is wrong. Just cause you have a large submission doesn't mean you deserve the wrong grade. Graders should grade based on the merits of each card, not the size of the order. >>
If you submit 500 cards in March and they grade 80% 8s vs submitting 500 cards in July and they grade 60% 9s, then that isn't the fault of the submitter. Basically what you are saying is nobody should be submitting modern cards since most are worthless in lower than 10 grade. I don't think this is the message PSA wants to convey to their customers. For the record, I don't submit post-1980 cards, so my model doesn't require PSA 10s. >>
I used to send in 2000-card submissions (all pre-1980) until a few years ago until this kind of thing started becoming the norm. Now I probably send in 50-100 cards in a year that have been very carefully examined and I seem to be getting results that are a lot more consistent and meeting expectations.
Grading is still just too "human-intensive" and subjective. A lot of technology exists that could really help PSA get things more consistent. At such time as they decide to go down that path I think they will see a decent pick-up in submission levels from those of us who will no longer tolerate mass grading using a less than state-of-the-art methodology.
Dave
Well said. Text
The correlation on last sub was about 80%. There were a couple head scratchers that were 3 grades too low and some 10's that only received 9's.
Some were higher than expected by one grade. No .5 grades were received.
<< <i>That in turn can impact grades because lets be honest-- graders are human and will be impacted by various outside factors (sinus headache, stress at home, etc.) like all of us. >>
Hmmm ... so MAYBE it would be a good idea to try to have your cards graded the next business day after Valentine's Day!
Doug
Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
<< <i>Top right particularly.
For what it is worth, I own a loupe, but no longer use it. Too easy to talk yourself out of subbing cards. Since I switched to a jewelers magnified lamp I am much more consistent and successful with my subs. >>
Would you mind posting a picture of that lamp and maybe a few details? I searched 'jewelers magnified lamp' on eBay and got lots of different items. I'd like to know more so that I can look into purchasing one. Thank you.
<< <i>
<< <i>That in turn can impact grades because lets be honest-- graders are human and will be impacted by various outside factors (sinus headache, stress at home, etc.) like all of us. >>
Hmmm ... so MAYBE it would be a good idea to try to have your cards graded the next business day after Valentine's Day! >>
Card graders might just be a bit more frustrated the day after Valentine's Day than most, so you may actually have a greater chance of finding the G.O.D.
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Based on your Valentine's Day comment, I believe we have polar opposite impressions of the average social life of a baseball card collector/grader.
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<< <i>I always write down what grade I am expecting before sending the cards away. Then I compare with the actual grades received.
The correlation on last sub was about 80%. There were a couple head scratchers that were 3 grades too low and some 10's that only received 9's.
Some were higher than expected by one grade. No .5 grades were received. >>
I do this as well, and I might also add a + or - after my expected grade.
I might write, for instance "9-" if I think it's a low end 9, and if it comes back as an 8 then I leave it.
But if I had written "9" or "9+" and it is returned an 8 then it goes in the re-sub pile.
This is very helpful to me since months can pass between submission and grading and I had long forgotten any expected grades.
<< <i>
<< ..... Since I switched to a jewelers magnified lamp I am much more consistent and successful with my subs. >>
I've been pleased with the magnified lamp. >>
for those who use them , any suggestions? I have been happy with my loupe but always open to trying new techniques thanks
<< <i>1 1 23089476 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 16 Darryl Strawberry Card
1 2 23089477 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 16 Darryl Strawberry Card
1 3 23089478 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 16 Darryl Strawberry Card
1 4 23089479 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 16 Darryl Strawberry Card
2 1 23089480 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 18 Danny Tartabull Card
2 2 23089481 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 18 Danny Tartabull Card
3 1 23089482 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 17 Cal Ripken Jr. Card
3 2 23089483 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 17 Cal Ripken Jr. Card
3 3 23089484 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 17 Cal Ripken Jr. Card
4 1 23089485 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 15 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
4 2 23089486 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 15 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
4 3 23089487 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 15 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
4 4 23089488 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 15 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
5 1 23089489 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 14 Joe Carter Card
5 2 23089490 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 14 Joe Carter Card
6 1 23089491 MINT 9 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 13 Wade Boggs Card
7 1 23089492 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1992 Fleer Team Leaders 19 Jose Canseco Card
8 1 23089493 MINT 9 1979 O-Pee-Chee 157 Thurman Munson Card
9 1 23089494 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1979 O-Pee-Chee 234 Dave Concepcion Card
10 1 23089495 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Tony Gwynn Card
11 1 23089496 MINT 9 1984 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Dave Winfield Card
12 1 23089497 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1984 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Dwight Gooden Card
13 1 23089498 MINT 9 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut D.Murphy/D.Parker Card
14 1 23089499 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Fernando Valenzuela Card
15 1 23089500 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Gary Carter Card
16 1 23089501 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Carlton Fisk Card
17 1 23089502 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Carl Yastrzemski Card
18 1 23089503 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Eddie Murray Card
19 1 23089504 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1982 All-Star Game Program Inserts-Hand Cut Rod Carew Card
20 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
21 1 23089506 MINT 9 1990 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides-Hand Cut 12 Bo Jackson Card
22 1 N9: NOT GRADED No Spec Info, No Grade, No Charge Card
23 1 23089508 NEAR MINT 7 1992 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides 8 Bo Jackson Card
24 1 23089509 NEAR MINT 7 1991 Little Big Leaguers Perforated Ken Griffey Jr. Card
25 1 23089510 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 11 Ryne Sandberg Perforated Card
26 1 23089511 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 5 Ozzie Smith Perforated Card
27 1 23089512 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 20 Rickey Henderson Perforated Card
28 1 23089513 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 23 Roger Clemens Perforated Card
29 1 23089514 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 2 Eric Davis Perforated Card
30 1 23089515 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1988 Chef Boyardee 10 Gary Carter Perforated Card
31 1 23089516 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1991 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides 45 Ken Griffey Jr. Hand Cut Card
32 1 23089517 EXCELLENT 5 1991 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides 38 Kirby Puckett Hand Cut Card
33 1 23089518 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1991 Scd Baseball Pocket Price Guides 26 Dale Murphy Hand Cut Card
34 1 23089519 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 8 Juan Gonzalez Card
34 2 23089520 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 8 Juan Gonzalez Card
35 1 23089521 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 2 Mark McGwire Card
35 2 23089522 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 2 Mark McGwire Card
35 3 23089523 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 2 Mark McGwire Card
35 4 23089524 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 2 Mark McGwire Card
36 1 23089525 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card
36 2 23089526 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card
36 3 23089527 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card
36 4 23089528 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card
36 5 23089529 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card
36 6 23089530 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card
36 7 23089531 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 1 Kirby Puckett Card
37 1 23089532 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 10 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
37 2 23089533 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 10 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
37 3 23089534 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 10 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
37 4 23089535 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 10 Ken Griffey Jr. Card
38 1 23089536 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card
38 2 23089537 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card
38 3 23089538 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card
38 4 23089539 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card
38 5 23089540 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 5 Frank Thomas Card
39 1 23089541 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card
39 2 23089542 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card
39 3 23089543 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card
39 4 23089544 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card
39 5 23089545 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card
39 6 23089546 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card
39 7 23089547 GEM MINT 10 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 4 Roger Clemens Card
40 1 23089548 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 9 Roberto Alomar Card
40 2 23089549 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 9 Roberto Alomar Card
41 1 23089550 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 7 Brady Anderson Card
42 1 23089551 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 6 Carlos Baerga Card
43 1 23089552 MINT 9 1993 Fleer Team Leaders 3 Pat Listach Card >>
<< <i>They should video record a grader grading a card and have the grader mention everything wrong with the card and what he's looking for; all the while viewing his hands handling the card.. . Of course you can censor his face and disguise his voice. They can post it on the website. >>
Great idea, shine a light on the coach roaches. However it will never happen-----conflict of interest?