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I didn't buy anything.
Did you?
Did you?
Yorkshireman,Obsessed collector of round, metallic pieces of history.Hunting for Latin American colonial portraits plus cool US & British coins.
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<< <i>I didn't buy anything.
Did you? >>
No.
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Bought a handful of other neat coins in the sale but were underbidders on some really cool coins like the 1878-S half, 1901-S quarter and 1913-S quarters. Heritage did a beautiful job with the first installment of this collection, and kudos are in order to them.
The auction was rather slow and arduous, as Heritage valiantly accommodated every floor, mail, fax, proxy, phone, and live internet bidder from the gorgeous 5th Avenue Fletcher-Sinclair mansion on Manhattan's Upper East Side (which, however, lacks air conditioning). The high point of the evening was buying Gene's #1 favorite coin from his entire 3000+ coin collection. He got up and came over to congratulate me, which was a really nice moment ...
And here's the coin ... (sorry for the blurry images ... I'll have better ones eventually)
You can take a break from this hobby, but you're always a coin collector at heart ...
Best,
Sunnywood
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<< <i>Well I haven't been on these message boards for several years or more, and I hadn't bought a coin for at least five years, but the Gardner sale got my attention, and I bought a nice coin or two
The auction was rather slow and arduous, as Heritage valiantly accommodated every floor, mail, fax, proxy, phone, and live internet bidder from the gorgeous 5th Avenue Fletcher-Sinclair mansion on Manhattan's Upper East Side (which, however, lacks air conditioning). The high point of the evening was buying Gene's #1 favorite coin from his entire 3000+ coin collection. He got up and came over to congratulate me, which was a really nice moment ...
And here's the coin ... (sorry for the blurry images ... I'll have better ones eventually)
You can take a break from this hobby, but you're always a coin collector at heart ...
Best,
Sunnywood >>
That is a spectacular coin!
I would love to have been able to hold that coin in hand!
Congrats on the acquisition!
Looking forward to your pics.
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<< <i>Well I haven't been on these message boards for several years or more, and I hadn't bought a coin for at least five years, but the Gardner sale got my attention, and I bought a nice coin or two
The auction was rather slow and arduous, as Heritage valiantly accommodated every floor, mail, fax, proxy, phone, and live internet bidder from the gorgeous 5th Avenue Fletcher-Sinclair mansion on Manhattan's Upper East Side (which, however, lacks air conditioning). The high point of the evening was buying Gene's #1 favorite coin from his entire 3000+ coin collection. He got up and came over to congratulate me, which was a really nice moment ...
And here's the coin ... (sorry for the blurry images ... I'll have better ones eventually)
You can take a break from this hobby, but you're always a coin collector at heart ...
Best,
Sunnywood >>
That is a spectacular coin!
I would love to have been able to hold that coin in hand!
Congrats on the acquisition! >>
What a stunner!!! Wow.....just WOW!!! Congrats!!
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
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<< <i>Should come as no surprise to most folks, but this is one of our favorite issues of all time, and we nabbed the Gardner example:
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Bought a handful of other neat coins in the sale but were underbidders on some really cool coins like the 1878-S half, 1901-S quarter and 1913-S quarters. Heritage did a beautiful job with the first installment of this collection, and kudos are in order to them. >>
Congrats to the fine folks at DLRC!!!
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍
My Full Walker Registry Set (1916-1947):
https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/
jom
very nice coin !!
I was sitting in front of you last night. Was wondering who was buying some of those coins.
Congrats!
Here's the pic of your new coin that comes up with the PCGS cert verification:
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My 1866 Philly Mint Set
<< <i>What's holding that '01-S back from 66? Gorgeous coin. >>
Probably the fact that it's graded PCGS MS67
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<< <i>What's holding that '01-S back from 66? Gorgeous coin. >>
Probably the fact that it's graded PCGS MS67
Heck, I logged into the auction in time to see the book of PHOTOS of the coins go for $6000, and I knew I wasn't in the right neighborhood.
<< <i>Beautiful quarter, Sunnywood! Congrats! I still remember seeing your quarter set at Long Beach right after you sold it and still dream of seeing them again someday
Here's the pic of your new coin that comes up with the PCGS cert verification:
What a fantastic coin!!!!
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<< <i>Buy anything?
Heck, I logged into the auction in time to see the book of PHOTOS of the coins go for $6000, and I knew I wasn't in the right neighborhood.
Welcome to my neighborhood.
I added this on to my Capped Half Dollar set guys...
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Really needed this for my date set.
Date Set of Capped Bust Half Dollars
Best to all who succeeded in landing beauties from this fabled set. I never saw a collection of such amazing, consistently lovely coins.
What, no pic of the 1837?
I was so surprised to see many of the capped bust dimes sell for such high prices - I was outbid on many of the other CBD - for example - 1820 statesof in PCGS66 thats CAC - price realized - $67k - now this gotta be a world record!!!! I don't remember any mint state bust dime selling for that much except for the 1822!
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While some of the seated coins brought fabulous money I was rather surprised that the unc quarters didn't bring a lot more. The strong ones were typically PCGS CAC or NGC CAC pop tops (finest knowns or close enough). The unc seated dimes looked to be strongest of the group. Even the half dimes were pretty strong. The quarters and halves imo trailed both of them. You could definitely see the NGC bias at work, especially if not stickered. There were very few exceptions. The early S mint and O mint seated quarters didn't do near as well as I though they should. I see that my former NGC MS66 1858-0 dime basically brought 2.3X what it did for me....because of the cross to PCGS 66 CAC ($9K vs $21K). I had tried that coin several times over the years. Even some exceptional PCGS coins in pop top condition didn't bring what I figured.... because...they weren't stickered. The 1857-s half brought a ton at over $50K and I recall seeing Gene buy that for low $20K's out of Queller in 2002 (pop top MS66 CAC). Pop tops in the right holders w/sticker just can't be beat. My old 1856-0 25c (NGC MS65) fetched $11,750, or quite a bit less than what I sold it for in March 1990 at $19,000ish (pop 1 finest graded). Back then it was in a PCGS MS65 holder. Gene still did well on it as he paid around $4.5K to $5.5K for it....more than doubling his money.
While the Barbers in unc didn't generally bring crazy money, the monster gem 98-0 (Eliasberg), 01-s (Stack), and 04-0 (Stack) quarters all did very well. I still remember Bob Rose/Ron Iskowitz of Renrob writing an article on the 01-s when they bought it in the 1980 market heat for around $80,000 (it had fetched a "paltry" $5K in March 1975 at James Stack)....a 15X increase in 5 years. They unfortunately got to ride the market down for a number of years before they finally sold the 01-s in the later 1980's, allowing them to finalize realize a profit. If memory serves I think Colonel Jessup (?) bought that from them in an early MS66 holder.....and upgraded the coin to MS67....basically doubling the price overnight. Fun times. I'm sure the Colonel will correct me if I am wrong.
Now I have buyers regret !
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<< <i>I bid on the 1851 O seated half pcgs 66 cac.....for nostalgic reasons
Now I have buyers regret !
That 51 half brought solid money. As I recall it went for $35-$38K or so when it sold out of Pittman to Gene. It certainly wasn't going to sell for less this time around than what it fetched out of Pittman 16 years ago. Considering what it brought at Pittman, it probably should have increased at least 50%. It wasn't all that far from the MS66 1857-s which reached $61K. The 1854-0 half in PCGS MS67 sold for a whopping $44K....with no sticker either! I'll bet that quadrupled in price for Gene. "Arrows" halves in superb gem from 2002 have done spectacularly well.
If the dipped out MS68 1901-s ever starts "turning," you'll see the Stack coin become the unquestioned #1 much like what occurred among the top 2 1893-s dollars in MS67. The original toned coins will barely change over the decades....while the dipped out monsters will eventually acquire golden/brown toning, often mottled and so-so eye appeal. Dave Akers 1850 MS68 quarter brought $38K in Gene's set. I recall when Dave had that at the 2003 ANA and the ask price was formidable for the time....probably $35K-$38K. But that was a monster pre-1853 no motto quarter. Cannot recall any early Philly 25c (1840-1852) looking any more impressive. It "only" brought $38K this time...disappointing to me. Then again, these early dates really don't exist in "strict" fully mint state MS66 or better....washed out 64's and 65's are the norm.
When I think back to 1980, it seems like it wasn't that long ago. I still remember the auction where the 01-S was sold - "Auction 80" in Cincinnati - and I remember Renrob buying it. The only things that force me to recognize how long ago that was is that I turned 20 that week, and that I was so young that on that trip I didn't mind sleeping on a cot in a hotel room with two other young dealers. (Edited to say that we shared the room, not the cot.) Ironically, one of the two dealers was Mark Yaffe, whom I believe underbid the 01-S. At the time, I was very impressed.
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roadrunner, thanks for your incredible knowledge in the areas of Seated and Barber coinage. So the 1901-S was ex James A. Stack (1975); David Akers; unknown(1976-1980); Auction '80; Bob Rose and Ron Iskowitz (1980 - ?); Col. Jessup; unknown; Mike Printz (2001); Gene Gardner (2001-2014). It's awesome to know the 1904-O was also ex James A. Stack (1975) - David Akers. That's a cool bit of information because, as it turns out, I bought that one too!
Best,
Sunnywood
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<< <i>Well I haven't been on these message boards for several years or more, and I hadn't bought a coin for at least five years, but the Gardner sale got my attention, and I bought a nice coin or two
The auction was rather slow and arduous, as Heritage valiantly accommodated every floor, mail, fax, proxy, phone, and live internet bidder from the gorgeous 5th Avenue Fletcher-Sinclair mansion on Manhattan's Upper East Side (which, however, lacks air conditioning). The high point of the evening was buying Gene's #1 favorite coin from his entire 3000+ coin collection. He got up and came over to congratulate me, which was a really nice moment ...
And here's the coin ... (sorry for the blurry images ... I'll have better ones eventually)
You can take a break from this hobby, but you're always a coin collector at heart ...
Best,
Sunnywood >>
I take a particular pride in having owned that piece, certainly one of my all-time favorites. The cataloguing was quite incomplete.
Very sweet purchase and much mazel. Bought out of James A. Stack (1975) by Dave Akers for the astounding price of $5000 and sold soon after to private collector who sold it through Dave at Auction '80. for $75K or $80K, to Renrob and my very first mentor, the late Bob Rose. In 1989, from his ex-partner Ron Iskowitz to Martin Paul at $100K, then to me at $110K (all within 36 hours)
Within a day of getting home, and there not being a cross-over service, I went all-in and cracked it out of its NGC MS66 holder.
PCGS MS67. . .
Sold it to John Dannreuther the next day for $190K. Then lost track of it but Mike Printz, who worked for Larry Whitlow at the time, tells me they sold it Gene for something like $87,500 in the late 90's.
TMI for the new owner, perhaps, but a trail of provenance that might prove useful.
When my numismatic life flashes before my eyes, I will linger long on the 01-S and shrug at the Garrett 1804. . .
edited to add: I was typing while roadrunner told 90% of the story. .
<< <i>That was one fabulous coin that you picked up Sunnywood. It was very nice meeting you at the show. For sure lets stay in touch. Sounds like you are building quite an amazing type set! I thought Mr. Gardner was very cool when he immediately got up and sought you out to shake your hand for landing his very favorite coin. Quite a moment for both of you!
I added this on to my Capped Half Dollar set guys...
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[URL=http://s423.photobucket.com/user/hgtri/media/1839-OGR-1MS66PCGSGardnerrev_zps963fef40.jpg.html]
Really needed this for my date set.
Date Set of Capped Bust Half Dollars
That coin was a major OMFUG moment. Was Ankurj your underbidder? He dotes on this date. You're lucky he's about to reallocate into residential real estate
Best to all who succeeded in landing beauties from this fabled set. I never saw a collection of such amazing, consistently lovely coins. >>
Thanks for sharing!
jom
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Sunnyone - even though I congratulated at the auction - I will do it again here - one really special coin - best of luck with it.
Gobust - You got my favorite date for the bust halves and its better looking in hand then the picture. Congrats to you as well.
My only regret was not being able to attend in person and view the coins.
Thanks to Colonel Jessup for filling in the real details on the Stack 1901-s. It's nice to fill in more of the history. I checked the 1975 James A. Stack PR's and the 01-s went for $5500 and the 1904-0 $850. They've kept that same basic spread even today. Interesting. Dave Akers bought some killer coins out of that sale. He also bought the superb gem 1865-s quarter ($2600) which I don't think is the same coin as Gene's MS66 1865-s (sold for $58,750). Now I feel bad for passing on that coin when Larry Whitlow shipped it to me on approval for $13K in the late 1990's or thereabouts. I've not seen the 1865-s Stack coin since 1975. The Stack catalog mentions that the pristine gem 65-s and 67-s quarters were like twins. An identifying feature of both coins is that they are 80% white with original skin and having jet black rims....very unusual. Gene has the Stack 67-s which will be coming up for sale in the future.
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<< <i>I bid on the 1851 O seated half pcgs 66 cac.....for nostalgic reasons
Now I have buyers regret !
That 51-0 half brought solid money. As I recall it went for $35-$38K or so when it sold out of Pittman to Gene. It certainly wasn't going to sell for less this time around than what it fetched out of Pittman 16 years ago. Considering what it brought at Pittman, it probably should have increased at least 50%. It wasn't all that far from the MS66 1857-s which reached $61K. The 1854-0 half in PCGS MS67 sold for a whopping $44K....with no sticker either! I'll bet that quadrupled in price for Gene. "Arrows" halves in superb gem from 2002 have done spectacularly well.
If the dipped out MS68 1901-s ever starts "turning," you'll see the Stack coin become the unquestioned #1 much like what occurred among the top 2 1893-s dollars in MS67. The original toned coins will barely change over the decades....while the dipped out monsters will eventually acquire golden/brown toning, often mottled and so-so eye appeal. Dave Akers 1850 MS68 quarter brought $38K in Gene's set. I recall when Dave had that at the 2003 ANA and the ask price was formidable for the time....probably $35K-$38K. But that was a monster pre-1853 no motto quarter. Cannot recall any early Philly 25c (1840-1852) looking any more impressive. It "only" brought $38K this time...disappointing to me. Then again, these early dates really don't exist in "strict" fully mint state MS66 or better....washed out 64's and 65's are the norm. >>
The 1851 half is Pittman. There was no provenance listed for the 51-O. Both are great looking coins.
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