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Mantle rookie experts out there?

angelenocarddudeangelenocarddude Posts: 283
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Hello all. I have bought a larger group of nice vintage cards, the highlight of which is this Mantle rookie. I SHOULD be okay if it turns out a fake, as rest of cards will make up the difference and we negotiated an exchange of other cards if I find it to be fake, but I am sitting here chewing my fingernails off waiting for UPS on tues. Thought I'd put this pic out there and see reactions. Thanks!

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  • angelenocarddudeangelenocarddude Posts: 283
    and, yes, I am aware of what looks like an old scotch tape stain at bottom.
  • bobbyw8469bobbyw8469 Posts: 7,139 ✭✭✭
    Something looks not quite right there. Would love to see the back.
  • angelenocarddudeangelenocarddude Posts: 283
    don't have good back pic yet. will have to scan myself. Can't wait to feel and touch and smell it and compare it to other 51s with my loupe. give it the light test, all that. this is all i have for now. The black appears to be solid, but hard to tell in a pic
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Something looks not quite right there. Would love to see the back. >>



    I was thinking the same thing. Coloring just looks too cartoonishy, if there is such a word!!
  • tennesseebankertennesseebanker Posts: 5,433 ✭✭✭
    Skin tone looks a little off. But it is hard to tell on these from just a scan.
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  • angelenocarddudeangelenocarddude Posts: 283
    been looking at this site and don't see any really obvious red flags, but sure that means next to nothing

    http://home.comcast.net/~52mantle/52toppsmantle51b.htm


    just sent the author this same pic. hopefully, i'm a lucky guy, but i think i'm okay if it doesn't turn out. will just be disappointed, of course.
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>Something looks not quite right there. Would love to see the back. >>


    +1. Hope it is just the scan.
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  • CounselorCounselor Posts: 1,861 ✭✭✭
    Agree color looks off and borders too thick
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  • everythingcollectoreverythingcollector Posts: 47
    from the scan it looks fake to me
  • mattyc_collectionmattyc_collection Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The first alarm anyone should look for with that card is skin tone. One wants to avoid what's known as Mick's 'sunburn' look on fakes. And as someone else said above, the borders are uncharacteristically beefy for the issue. That said, all this is going on a limb as I don't have the card in hand and it's not a high-res scan. I would manage expectations, and basically expect the worst so that any other outcome is gravy. And gravy is mad tasty.

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  • RedglobeRedglobe Posts: 649 ✭✭✭
    Hello,

    The corners look to sharp for the overall aged look of the card.

    Rob
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  • angelenocarddudeangelenocarddude Posts: 283
    well, it's unanimous. durnit. maybe it will be different in person. a guy can dream, right?
  • BunchOBullBunchOBull Posts: 6,188 ✭✭✭
    It looks very pixelated, like a photocopy unfortunately...hopefully it's a bad picture.
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  • handymanhandyman Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The boarders also look to big for this issue. Doesnt look normal to me, Can you give exact measurements as well?
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    I am not at all in the camp that would suggest that it is legit. The trees, especially in the lower right are out of synch with the typical distances and appearance which suggests additional cropping of the original image (hence the larger borders on the final product). Additionally, there are dual print lines on the card. While susceptible to print lines, it is not common to have them both vertically and horizontally.

    Aside from the garish tones and imagery, there are too many red flags to suggest that the card is legitimate...

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  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The first alarm anyone should look for with that card is skin tone. One wants to avoid what's known as Mick's 'sunburn' look on fakes. And as someone else said above, the borders are uncharacteristically beefy for the issue. That said, all this is going on a limb as I don't have the card in hand and it's not a high-res scan. I would manage expectations, and basically expect the worst so that any other outcome is gravy. And gravy is mad tasty. >>



    This one looks like the sunburn effect??

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  • angelenocarddudeangelenocarddude Posts: 283
    was thinking same thing. i see many graded examples with the red cheeks
  • mrmint23mrmint23 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭
    Fake....clouds in top left are wrong.
  • JaktJakt Posts: 573 ✭
    First major red flag? It's not graded. That in itself gives it away.
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  • angelenocarddudeangelenocarddude Posts: 283
    got the cards. yep. a faker. not half tone. wah wah wah...

    now i have to make sure some of the other top cards are legit!
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