<< <i>I think we have strayed away from the real intent of the question by the OP in that many of these examples while impressive feats in their own right are not really by definition "psychologically dominating" performances in the vein of Tyson's demolition of Spinks or Tiger obliterating the field to win a major. >>
not sure i completely agree with you Tim. there are several excellent examples being offered here. the Gagne post stands out. i recall that stretch of his career when he was literally untouchable. regardless of how he got that way, you've got to think that at some point batters were just waving at it to get outta the box because they knew there was no way they could hit that guy. they were psyched out.
<< <i>I think we have strayed away from the real intent of the question by the OP in that many of these examples while impressive feats in their own right are not really by definition "psychologically dominating" performances in the vein of Tyson's demolition of Spinks or Tiger obliterating the field to win a major. >>
not sure i completely agree with you Tim. there are several excellent examples being offered here. the Gagne post stands out. i recall that stretch of his career when he was literally untouchable. regardless of how he got that way, you've got to think that at some point batters were just waving at it to get outta the box because they knew there was no way they could hit that guy. they were psyched out. >>
There are some very excellent examples, yes, that do rise to the level of "psychologically dominating," but there is also a difference between an outstanding performance in a single game or event and a total domination (psychologically) of the opponent or field akin to Tyson's obliteration of Spinks.
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<< <i>I think we have strayed away from the real intent of the question by the OP in that many of these examples while impressive feats in their own right are not really by definition "psychologically dominating" performances in the vein of Tyson's demolition of Spinks or Tiger obliterating the field to win a major. >>
not sure i completely agree with you Tim. there are several excellent examples being offered here. the Gagne post stands out. i recall that stretch of his career when he was literally untouchable. regardless of how he got that way, you've got to think that at some point batters were just waving at it to get outta the box because they knew there was no way they could hit that guy. they were psyched out. >>
There are some very excellent examples, yes, that do rise to the level of "psychologically dominating," but there is also a difference between an outstanding performance in a single game or event and a total domination of the opponent or field. >>
well, if you want to revert back to a "staredown" as a means of psychological intimidation, then by all means let's discuss Tyson. sometimes psyching out an opponent can offer its discreet subtleties as well. Joe Namath guaranteed the world a Super Bowl victory for his team even though the odds were supposedly stacked heavily against him. the Baltimore Colts tried to fend off this belief and his desire to win. he certainly wasn't the most gifted athlete. but, it was something he said that implanted a thought the opponent couldn't shake for the duration of a championship game. think about it.
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<< <i>I think we have strayed away from the real intent of the question by the OP in that many of these examples while impressive feats in their own right are not really by definition "psychologically dominating" performances in the vein of Tyson's demolition of Spinks or Tiger obliterating the field to win a major. >>
not sure i completely agree with you Tim. there are several excellent examples being offered here. the Gagne post stands out. i recall that stretch of his career when he was literally untouchable. regardless of how he got that way, you've got to think that at some point batters were just waving at it to get outta the box because they knew there was no way they could hit that guy. they were psyched out. >>
There are some very excellent examples, yes, that do rise to the level of "psychologically dominating," but there is also a difference between an outstanding performance in a single game or event and a total domination of the opponent or field. >>
well, if you want to revert back to a "staredown" as a means of psychological intimidation, then by all means let's discuss Tyson. sometimes psyching out an opponent can offer its discreet subtleties as well. Joe Namath guaranteed the world a Super Bowl victory for his team even though the odds were supposedly stacked heavily against him. the Baltimore Colts tried to fend off this belief and his desire to win. he certainly wasn't the most gifted athlete. but, it was something he said that implanted a thought the opponent couldn't shake for the duration of a championship game. think about it. >>
No, not a staredown. Tiger Woods didn't have to star anyone down or emply the same intimidation tactics that Tyuson did, but everyone knew he was going to win. Namath had a terrific game, yes, and that was a huge upset, but were the Colts "psychologically dominated" by Namath or the Jets? If anything, they were probably too confident, LOL..
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<< <i>Namath had a terrific game, yes, and that was a huge upset, but were the Colts "psychologically dominated" by Namath or the Jets? >>
without a doubt. Joe could have just waltzed in and said "We respect the Colts. They've been the best team all year. We'll give it our best effort and see what happens."
respectful and PC, right?
he said "We're going to beat you. I guarantee it."
<< <i>Namath had a terrific game, yes, and that was a huge upset, but were the Colts "psychologically dominated" by Namath or the Jets? >>
without a doubt. Joe could have just waltzed in and said "We respect the Colts. They've been the best team all year. We'll give it our best effort and see what happens."
respectful and PC, right?
he said "We're going to beat you. I guarantee it." >>
Watershed moment in NFL history, no doubt. But I also guarantee you that until the final seconds of that game, the Colts thought they were going to win that game.
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btw, to clarify he said "We're going to win Sunday. I guarantee it." and he didn't say it to anyone on the Colts, just some loudmouth at a press conference.
but, you know the Colts heard about it, got pissed about it, tried to contain it, but......no.
Joe got in their heads. nobody was talking that way in the 60's, not the way so many guys beat their chests and flip their bats, etc. like today.
and i have no doubt the Colts "thought" they were going to win.
<< <i>btw, to clarify he said "We're going to win Sunday. I guarantee it." and he didn't say it to anyone on the Colts, just some loudmouth at a press conference.
but, you know the Colts heard about it, got pissed about it, tried to contain it, but......no.
Joe got in their heads. nobody was talking that way in the 60's, not the way so many guys beat their chests and flip their bats, etc. like today.
and i have no doubt the Colts "thought" they were going to win. >>
All true, but again that's not what I would classify as a "psychologically dominating" performance akin to Tyson v Spinks, or Tiger obliterating the field at a major. For that, the opponent has to know they are beat before the contest even starts, or is dominated to such an extent that they realize they have no chance. At least in my eyes, but it's all cool. Historic upsets are great events in their own right.
Speaking of "guarantees," Messier's Game 6 guarantee vs Devils in semi-finals in 1994 when Rangers were down 3-2 is right up there in NY lore, too.
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I think the beatdown the Seahawks put on the Broncos in the past Superbowl is a pretty good example. Complete domination in every facet of the game and Manning looked scared out there. Not sure if it's all time, but it's still pretty fresh, and it was beautiful (at least to me).
<< <i>I think the beatdown the Seahawks put on the Broncos in the past Superbowl is a pretty good example. Complete domination in every facet of the game and Manning looked scared out there. Not sure if it's all time, but it's still pretty fresh, and it was beautiful (at least to me). >>
I would agree with that example. Manning was out of sorts from the very first snap (literally).
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I think it was during a Packers playoff game during the 1990's, but I remember Reggie White destroying the RT on the opposing team. Reggie had at least 3 or 4 sacks during that game.
Another game that comes to mind is my favorite game of all time - the opening day 1994 shootout between Dan Marino and Drew Bledsoe. With 2 minutes left in the game, and the Dolphins on the Patriots 35 yard line and down by 3, Dan Marino stepped to the line on 4th down and threw a perfect strike down the right sideline to Irving Fryar for the winning score. Marino had absolutely devastated the Patriots secondary during the game and they gave up on the play - Fryar was open by 10 yards.
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<< <i>I think we have strayed away from the real intent of the question by the OP in that many of these examples while impressive feats in their own right are not really by definition "psychologically dominating" performances in the vein of Tyson's demolition of Spinks or Tiger obliterating the field to win a major. >>
not sure i completely agree with you Tim. there are several excellent examples being offered here. the Gagne post stands out. i recall that stretch of his career when he was literally untouchable. regardless of how he got that way, you've got to think that at some point batters were just waving at it to get outta the box because they knew there was no way they could hit that guy. they were psyched out.
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<< <i>I think we have strayed away from the real intent of the question by the OP in that many of these examples while impressive feats in their own right are not really by definition "psychologically dominating" performances in the vein of Tyson's demolition of Spinks or Tiger obliterating the field to win a major. >>
not sure i completely agree with you Tim. there are several excellent examples being offered here. the Gagne post stands out. i recall that stretch of his career when he was literally untouchable. regardless of how he got that way, you've got to think that at some point batters were just waving at it to get outta the box because they knew there was no way they could hit that guy. they were psyched out. >>
There are some very excellent examples, yes, that do rise to the level of "psychologically dominating," but there is also a difference between an outstanding performance in a single game or event and a total domination (psychologically) of the opponent or field akin to Tyson's obliteration of Spinks.
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<< <i>I think we have strayed away from the real intent of the question by the OP in that many of these examples while impressive feats in their own right are not really by definition "psychologically dominating" performances in the vein of Tyson's demolition of Spinks or Tiger obliterating the field to win a major. >>
not sure i completely agree with you Tim. there are several excellent examples being offered here. the Gagne post stands out. i recall that stretch of his career when he was literally untouchable. regardless of how he got that way, you've got to think that at some point batters were just waving at it to get outta the box because they knew there was no way they could hit that guy. they were psyched out. >>
There are some very excellent examples, yes, that do rise to the level of "psychologically dominating," but there is also a difference between an outstanding performance in a single game or event and a total domination of the opponent or field. >>
well, if you want to revert back to a "staredown" as a means of psychological intimidation, then by all means let's discuss Tyson. sometimes psyching out an opponent can offer its discreet subtleties as well. Joe Namath guaranteed the world a Super Bowl victory for his team even though the odds were supposedly stacked heavily against him. the Baltimore Colts tried to fend off this belief and his desire to win. he certainly wasn't the most gifted athlete. but, it was something he said that implanted a thought the opponent couldn't shake for the duration of a championship game. think about it.
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<< <i>I think we have strayed away from the real intent of the question by the OP in that many of these examples while impressive feats in their own right are not really by definition "psychologically dominating" performances in the vein of Tyson's demolition of Spinks or Tiger obliterating the field to win a major. >>
not sure i completely agree with you Tim. there are several excellent examples being offered here. the Gagne post stands out. i recall that stretch of his career when he was literally untouchable. regardless of how he got that way, you've got to think that at some point batters were just waving at it to get outta the box because they knew there was no way they could hit that guy. they were psyched out. >>
There are some very excellent examples, yes, that do rise to the level of "psychologically dominating," but there is also a difference between an outstanding performance in a single game or event and a total domination of the opponent or field. >>
well, if you want to revert back to a "staredown" as a means of psychological intimidation, then by all means let's discuss Tyson. sometimes psyching out an opponent can offer its discreet subtleties as well. Joe Namath guaranteed the world a Super Bowl victory for his team even though the odds were supposedly stacked heavily against him. the Baltimore Colts tried to fend off this belief and his desire to win. he certainly wasn't the most gifted athlete. but, it was something he said that implanted a thought the opponent couldn't shake for the duration of a championship game. think about it.
No, not a staredown. Tiger Woods didn't have to star anyone down or emply the same intimidation tactics that Tyuson did, but everyone knew he was going to win. Namath had a terrific game, yes, and that was a huge upset, but were the Colts "psychologically dominated" by Namath or the Jets? If anything, they were probably too confident, LOL..
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<< <i>Namath had a terrific game, yes, and that was a huge upset, but were the Colts "psychologically dominated" by Namath or the Jets? >>
without a doubt. Joe could have just waltzed in and said "We respect the Colts. They've been the best team all year. We'll give it our best effort and see what happens."
respectful and PC, right?
he said "We're going to beat you. I guarantee it."
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<< <i>Namath had a terrific game, yes, and that was a huge upset, but were the Colts "psychologically dominated" by Namath or the Jets? >>
without a doubt. Joe could have just waltzed in and said "We respect the Colts. They've been the best team all year. We'll give it our best effort and see what happens."
respectful and PC, right?
he said "We're going to beat you. I guarantee it." >>
Watershed moment in NFL history, no doubt. But I also guarantee you that until the final seconds of that game, the Colts thought they were going to win that game.
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but, you know the Colts heard about it, got pissed about it, tried to contain it, but......no.
Joe got in their heads. nobody was talking that way in the 60's, not the way so many guys beat their chests and flip their bats, etc. like today.
and i have no doubt the Colts "thought" they were going to win.
<< <i>btw, to clarify he said "We're going to win Sunday. I guarantee it." and he didn't say it to anyone on the Colts, just some loudmouth at a press conference.
but, you know the Colts heard about it, got pissed about it, tried to contain it, but......no.
Joe got in their heads. nobody was talking that way in the 60's, not the way so many guys beat their chests and flip their bats, etc. like today.
and i have no doubt the Colts "thought" they were going to win. >>
All true, but again that's not what I would classify as a "psychologically dominating" performance akin to Tyson v Spinks, or Tiger obliterating the field at a major. For that, the opponent has to know they are beat before the contest even starts, or is dominated to such an extent that they realize they have no chance. At least in my eyes, but it's all cool. Historic upsets are great events in their own right.
Speaking of "guarantees," Messier's Game 6 guarantee vs Devils in semi-finals in 1994 when Rangers were down 3-2 is right up there in NY lore, too.
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<< <i>I think the beatdown the Seahawks put on the Broncos in the past Superbowl is a pretty good example. Complete domination in every facet of the game and Manning looked scared out there. Not sure if it's all time, but it's still pretty fresh, and it was beautiful (at least to me).
I would agree with that example. Manning was out of sorts from the very first snap (literally).
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Another game that comes to mind is my favorite game of all time - the opening day 1994 shootout between Dan Marino and Drew Bledsoe. With 2 minutes left in the game, and the Dolphins on the Patriots 35 yard line and down by 3, Dan Marino stepped to the line on 4th down and threw a perfect strike down the right sideline to Irving Fryar for the winning score. Marino had absolutely devastated the Patriots secondary during the game and they gave up on the play - Fryar was open by 10 yards.
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