Help With Elway & Marino Autos

Nascar360

I was thinking of sending these in for authentication. They were acquired in person at the Wachovia on the Pro Am day. Will they pass PSADNA authentication?

They were playing golf and signing when they walked between putting in and teeing off. It was crazy so they were rushed.

It took a few holes before Marino would sign and said something like didn't I sign already and I told him he passed me by the last 4 holes and then he signed it.

That's why I wanted to know if it would pass PSA or just hold on to them because I know they are real.

These are also the UK Minis so smaller in their hands.

lawnmowerman

Real Elway and Marino for comparison . Sigs could have been rushed if they were in person but they look off to me. Especially the Elway.

PMKAY

Did you get them in person yourself?

charrigan

Might want a more recent IP comparison auto for Elway. That exemplar is 20 years old.

steel75

If they signed them in front of you, then YOU KNOW they are legit. It would be frustrating if Psa/Dna states they are not............because YOU KNOW they would be WRONG.

halosfan

Great card there Matt with some great ballers and a dancer

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Might want a more recent IP comparison auto for Elway. That exemplar is 20 years old. >>



Here's one from a year ago. Elway's sig has pretty much stayed the same. I've never seen one where the y in Elway was just a straight line instead of looped. I'm sure the in person sig could have been rushed resulting in the different sig

halosfan

Now that there is a cool elway

lawnmowerman

<< <i>Now that there is a cool elway >>



and he doesn't even dance! haha

Nascar360

They were playing golf and signing when they walked between putting in and teeing off. It was crazy so they were rushed.

It took a few holes before Marino would sign and said something like didn't I sign already and I told him he passed me by the last 4 holes and then he signed it.

That's why I wanted to know if it would pass PSA or just hold on to them because I know they are real.

These are also the UK Minis so smaller in their hands.

lawnmowerman

I wouldn't submit them especially if you plan on keeping them in your collection. Like you said, you know they're are real. No authentication needed.

charrigan

I think the Marino looks good. I would probably sub both, even if you plan on keeping them. Holders look nice, provide protection, and make them easier to sell if you ever want to move it.

GR

The marino is good, even though its rushed that D is perfect to the spot. The Elway wouldnt/shouldnt pass even though it very well may be legitimate as often happens with in person moving athletes sigs

RookieHOFers

Val, I would keep them as they are. You know they are real. Enjoy the experience!

Matt

Edit to add: I got Jimmie Johnson a couple years ago at the Wachovia. He couldn't have been nicer!

bounce

i don't know that i would sub them

question you have to ask yourself is, even if they authenticate, does it add much if any value to it even if you're selling?

if i was collecting a set, to be honest i wouldn't pick those even if there were slabbed for the same reason you're worried whether they'll even pass - they're rushed signatures from both

i'd pass on it, you know the story which is the best part of it honestly

and, sounds like marino hasn't changed much - i destroyed him years ago at a golf tourney but he had enough the final day and called me out on it - but i tagged him for 8 in 3 days before i got popped!

Nascar360

RookieHOFers - Jimmie Johnson is great away from the track. I got him at the Wachovia a few years back that's been the only time. I have seen him about 5 other times but it's been at NASCAR events.

Nascar360

Thanks guys for the options, I really do appreciate it. If I can ever help with NASCAR stuff let me know.

magikbilly

Both obviously good. Elway is formed correctly and demonstrably legit.

Eric

brendanb438

I am part of the camp that says it is crazy not to sub them. You know they are real, trust in PSA to also see that they are legit. Worth more in slabs than raw with just a promise from a seller in that they are legit sigs.

magikbilly

<< <i>I am part of the camp that says it is crazy not to sub them. You know they are real, trust in PSA to also see that they are legit. Worth more in slabs than raw with just a promise from a seller in that they are legit sigs. >>



I am in the other camp. That good and bad material passes is already known. Why throw money away? If you are selling quality material to a knowledgeable collector, no "papers" are needed. My 2 cents

Eric

Bounce is correct a few posts above.

lawnmowerman

<< <i>i don't know that i would sub them

question you have to ask yourself is, even if they authenticate, does it add much if any value to it even if you're selling?

if i was collecting a set, to be honest i wouldn't pick those even if there were slabbed for the same reason you're worried whether they'll even pass - they're rushed signatures from both >>



My thoughts exactly! No reason to submit sub-par autos that most will pass on because they just don't look that nice. Even if they did sell, it won't be for much.