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What was the first randomly inserted set?

Trying to figure out what the first insert set was that was randomly inserted (not a 1-per-pack set).

Were the 1989 Donruss Grand Slammers randomly inserted or were they one-per-cello pack? I know there are some in 1990 but can anyone think of one before that?

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  • billwaltonsbeardbillwaltonsbeard Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭✭
    1986 Fleer Future HOFers?
  • Nascar360Nascar360 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭
    86 Fleer HOF'ers (Black & Gray) were one per rack pack.

    The 1986 Fleer All stars (red & Blue) were 2 or 3 per cello box.
  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
    topps rack packs

    all-stars, not sure what was the first year this happened, but at least by 1986. football and baseball.
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  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>topps rack packs

    all-stars, not sure what was the first year this happened, but at least by 1986. football and baseball. >>



    Those weren't randomly inserted though, were they? I thought every rack pack contained a card from that subset.
  • tsalems1tsalems1 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭✭
    1986 fleer baseball
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  • ga5150ga5150 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭
    1990 UD Reggie Jackson Heroes?
  • jordangretzkyfanjordangretzkyfan Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>86 Fleer HOF'ers (Black & Gray) were one per rack pack.

    The 1986 Fleer All stars (red & Blue) were 2 or 3 per cello box. >>



    Yep, 1986 Fleer All-Stars were the first randomly inserted set and continued in fleer through 1993 I believe.
  • tkd7tkd7 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    Hey Reggie, how about 1984 Donruss Living Legends

    Living Legends A Gaylord Perry, Rollie Fingers
    Living Legends B Carl Yastrzemski, Johnny Bench
  • mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭✭
    I think those were exclusive to sets, not pack inserted.

    Not sure though, as i never bought a single pack of 84D ever. They were nonexistent in my area in 1984.



    << <i>Hey Reggie, how about 1984 Donruss Living Legends

    Living Legends A Gaylord Perry, Rollie Fingers
    Living Legends B Carl Yastrzemski, Johnny Bench >>

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  • tkd7tkd7 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>I think those were exclusive to sets, not pack inserted.

    Not sure though, as i never bought a single pack of 84D ever. They were nonexistent in my area in 1984.



    << <i>Hey Reggie, how about 1984 Donruss Living Legends

    Living Legends A Gaylord Perry, Rollie Fingers
    Living Legends B Carl Yastrzemski, Johnny Bench >>

    >>





    from PSA http://www.psacard.com/Articles/ArticleView/4651/donruss-domination-a-look-at-the-popular-1984-donruss-baseball-card-set

    << <i>The Mattingly is the anchor of the 658-card set that also offers two additional unnumbered "Living Legends" singles (A-Rollie Fingers and Gaylord Perry, B- Johnny Bench and Carl Yastrzemski) that were included in wax packs but excluded from factory sets. >>

  • mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 1,060 ✭✭✭✭
    Guess I had that backwards. I must have added them to my set later.



    << <i>

    << <i>I think those were exclusive to sets, not pack inserted.

    Not sure though, as i never bought a single pack of 84D ever. They were nonexistent in my area in 1984.



    << <i>Hey Reggie, how about 1984 Donruss Living Legends

    Living Legends A Gaylord Perry, Rollie Fingers
    Living Legends B Carl Yastrzemski, Johnny Bench >>

    >>





    from PSA http://www.psacard.com/Articles/ArticleView/4651/donruss-domination-a-look-at-the-popular-1984-donruss-baseball-card-set

    << <i>The Mattingly is the anchor of the 658-card set that also offers two additional unnumbered "Living Legends" singles (A-Rollie Fingers and Gaylord Perry, B- Johnny Bench and Carl Yastrzemski) that were included in wax packs but excluded from factory sets. >>

    >>

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  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    The 1984 Living Legends were essentially just base cards with different numbering - they're no more or less common than any base card.

    1986 Fleer All-Stars is it.

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  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The first ones I personally pulled were the 1976 Topps/OPC Hockey Glossy Inserts but there were plenty before that. I know hockey well enough but I'm not sure on how all the many Topps baseball insert sets of the 1960's & 70's used to be distributed, such as scratch offs, deckle, stamps, etc. I'm sure there are lots of people here who know about that though?



  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure those were all one-per-pack.
  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "Set" is the key word here.

    If it were "card" perhaps 1957 Topps Lucky Penny?

    Or the rare inserts for prizes from 1930's (i.e. U.S. Caramel Presidents).

    How about 1984-85 OPC hockey contest cards with the instant winner card?

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  • miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So does anything beat the 1976 Topps/OPC hockey glossy insert set if we're limiting it to random packs rather than 1 per?

  • tkd7tkd7 Posts: 1,799 ✭✭


    << <i>The 1984 Living Legends were essentially just base cards with different numbering - they're no more or less common than any base card.

    1986 Fleer All-Stars is it.

    Nick >>



    The living legends are called an insert set by cardboard connection and since they weren't in factory sets they must be less common than any base card.

    It's Reggie's question, so he makes the call. Where is Reggie?
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • jgrigalijgrigali Posts: 364 ✭✭
    would something like 1969 topps deckle edge count?
  • markj111markj111 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭


    << <i>would something like 1969 topps deckle edge count? >>




    The 1968 game inserts predate the deckle edge. I am thinking there was one per pack for both inserts, but I am not sure. I know I have a boatload of the deckles.
  • ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>The 1984 Living Legends were essentially just base cards with different numbering - they're no more or less common than any base card.

    1986 Fleer All-Stars is it.

    Nick >>



    The living legends are called an insert set by cardboard connection and since they weren't in factory sets they must be less common than any base card.

    It's Reggie's question, so he makes the call. Where is Reggie? >>



    Hmm... I think we would need to determine somehow if they were produced in fewer quantities than base cards. Not sure how we could do that though.
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