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New Set! - 1974 Japanese All Japan Pro Wrestling Menko

Here is the latest checklist. I added The Destroyer and Seiji Sakaguchi as well as Jumbo Tsurata to the Killer Krupp Card

Andre the Giant and Antonio Inoki
Andre the Giant and Karl Gotch
Antonio Inoki
The Destoyer
Dory Funk Jr.
Giant Baba - Yellow Background
Giant Baba with Robe
Jack Brisco
Killer Krupp and Jumbo Tsurata
Kintaro Oki
Mil Mascaras
Seiji Sakaguchi
???? Red Shorts Lifting Opponent

The baseball sets of this design both have 16 cards in the set. We are at 13 here so I am wondering if there are possibly three more in this set.

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  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    That Brisco and Mascaras are awesome looking cards. Great find. I am looking forward to seeing who else may be in the set.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    Oh man. I hope Andre isn't in this set. Did Bruno sanmartino wrestle in Japan? I would really like to find a card from the 70s of him
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Andre does have a mid-1970s menko. Not sure which set it is in. I was only able to see a blurry image of it.
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    I think I know the card you are talking about. If there is anything from 73 or 74 I would be interested. Right now I have the 74 yamakatsu as his rookie card but there could always be something I didn't know about... I just learned about the 82 Popy hogan a few months ago
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    From the picture it seemed like it was pre-1975 from what I can remember.

    The best chance for an early Andre from Japan is from the Gong Magazine....but those are paper stock. Menko and mini cards didn't emerge in Japan in force until about 1973 with the surge of color tv emerging in homes. Kids wanted to collect their favorite tv heroes and so companies reproduced them on the paper medium.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    I've confirmed three more menko in this set including an early Andre. Will post scans once menko are in hand. Hopefully these will help us narrow down a year for this set.
  • eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭
    Cool. Looking forward to seeing the Andre.
    Scans of most of my Misc rookies can be found <a target=new class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://forums.collectors.com/m...y&keyword1=Non%20major">here
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've confirmed three more menko in this set including an early Andre. Will post scans once menko are in hand. Hopefully these will help us narrow down a year for this set. >>



    You got this in hand?
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Not yet. I'm collecting a good handful of auctions before I have them shipped over. Will likely be in the June timeframe.

    Ryan
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Not yet. I'm collecting a good handful of auctions before I have them shipped over. Will likely be in the June timeframe.

    Ryan >>



    Any other goodies in that shipment yet?
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Only sumo wrestling goodies so far.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Here are my latest acquisitions to this set and a nice early Andre card. Anyone know who is on the card with Koloff?

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    I have the checklist as follows:

    Andre the Giant/Carl Gotch
    Giant Baba
    Jack Brisco
    Dory Funk, Jr.
    Mil Mascaras
    Kintaro Oki
    Unknown/Killer Karl Krupp
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Does not look like Koloff to me but does look like Killer Karl Krupp.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    I believe you are correct. I've fixed it.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Here is the latest checklist I have for this set.....need help on two of the menko. Am I missing any other ones?

    Giant Baba - Yellow Background
    Giant Baba with Robe
    Jack Brisco
    Mil Mascaras
    Kintaro Oki
    Andre the Giant and Karl Gotch
    Andre the Giant and Antonio Inoki
    Antonio Inoki
    Dory Funk Jr.
    ???? and Killer Krupp
    ???? Red Shorts Lifting Opponent
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Killer Krupp and NOT Ivan Koloff
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Thanks. Fixed the checklist.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Red Shorts lifting opponent is what image?
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Over at Blowout.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    The Andre brought a strong price at $362 in that condition......it will be interesting if more cards from this series are uncovered.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    I would not be surprised to see more menko surface from this set.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    There is a Destroyer card in this set.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    i was sent the image a few weeks ago, great looking card
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    Here is the latest checklist. I updated the first post and added The Destroyer and Seiji Sakaguchi as well as Jumbo Tsurata to the Killer Krupp Card

    Andre the Giant and Antonio Inoki
    Andre the Giant and Karl Gotch
    Antonio Inoki
    The Destoyer
    Dory Funk Jr.
    Giant Baba - Yellow Background
    Giant Baba with Robe
    Jack Brisco
    Killer Krupp and Jumbo Tsurata
    Kintaro Oki
    Mil Mascaras
    Seiji Sakaguchi
    ???? Red Shorts Lifting Opponent

    The baseball sets of this design both have 16 cards in the set. We are at 13 here so I am wondering if there are possibly three more in this set.
  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    I would like to see the image of the unknown wrestler.... I think you are right on with estimating that there are 16 cards to the set.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    If I had to guess what the last three cards are going to be, I am going to say it's probably one of these since these were the guys wrestling in the 1973/1974 timeframe in Japan :

    Dick Murdoch
    Abdullah the Butcher
    Thunder Sugiyama
    Terry Funk
    Harley Race
    The Sheik
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    The 14th menko in the set in Anton Geesink. I'll get a scan as soon as I have the menko in hand.
  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭
    edited November 11, 2016 7:14AM

    Here are the last three menko in this set:

    14: Anton Geesink
    15: Mil Mascaras
    16: Unknown (Any ideas?)


  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Is that Mr. Fuji?

  • SumoMenkoManSumoMenkoMan Posts: 1,269 ✭✭✭

    I'm not sure. I don't think Mr. Fuji wrestled in Japan in the early 1970s.

  • wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭

    Hmm...someone has to know that image.

    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
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