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1st PO01 grader Walker

pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
Check out the Chesapeake Walker Lowball set to see the 1st PCGS graded PO01 Walker. 1918-S image

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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Can a brother get a link?
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    Moose1913Moose1913 Posts: 404 ✭✭✭
    Well done! Interesting piece.

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    ms70ms70 Posts: 13,958 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a FR02 all day long.


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    That's a fun coin!
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    ColorfulcoinsColorfulcoins Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭
    very tough.....have tried for almost 10 years and have just about given up.....made my share of FR02's.....have found a couple that would have been PO01s except obviously cleaned. Way to go!
    Craig
    If I had it my way, stupidity would be painful!
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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow. I figured it would be just about impossible. I can see the S mint mark, but how is the 1918 determined?
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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How can they tell it's an '18-S? Just curious... I figured if a PO1 was ever made it would be a '46 DDR or something. >>


    I think a couple of molecules of the digit 8 are visible. image

    Are those slide marks on the eagle?

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    JBNJBN Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great coin. Thx for posting the pic.
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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Doesn't that look completely fabricated, or is that an acceptable thing to do? I tried to make a PO01 just for fun, starting with a host coin in the AG03 range and it turned out just like this.
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


    << <i>Doesn't that look completely fabricated, or is that an acceptable thing to do? I tried to make a PO01 just for fun, starting with a host coin in the AG03 range and it turned out just like this. >>



    What method did you use?
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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Doesn't that look completely fabricated, or is that an acceptable thing to do? I tried to make a PO01 just for fun, starting with a host coin in the AG03 range and it turned out just like this. >>



    What method did you use? >>



    Rubbed it against other coins.
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    3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Doesn't that look completely fabricated, or is that an acceptable thing to do? I tried to make a PO01 just for fun, starting with a host coin in the AG03 range and it turned out just like this. >>



    What method did you use? >>



    Rubbed it against other coins. >>



    ...time to submit it then I suppose image

    Erik
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    DavideoDavideo Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Doesn't that look completely fabricated, or is that an acceptable thing to do? I tried to make a PO01 just for fun, starting with a host coin in the AG03 range and it turned out just like this. >>



    What method did you use? >>



    Rubbed it against other coins. >>



    How long did you rub? I have a few lowball coins on my desk that I fiddle with while working and it was quite the slow process for me.
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    pocketpiececommemspocketpiececommems Posts: 6,091 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Look through several hunderd or thousand circulated Walkers and you will find ones that look like this, maybe not this low, and you will find that they are not fabricated. When you find totally dateless one that's what they look like too.
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    Wabbit2313Wabbit2313 Posts: 7,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is that baby worth as a one of a kind? I guess I could have said, worst known!
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    crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623


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    << <i>Doesn't that look completely fabricated, or is that an acceptable thing to do? I tried to make a PO01 just for fun, starting with a host coin in the AG03 range and it turned out just like this. >>



    What method did you use? >>



    Rubbed it against other coins. >>



    How long did you rub? I have a few lowball coins on my desk that I fiddle with while working and it was quite the slow process for me. >>



    In my experience with key chain coins and what not, the only problem is when you are done with them they are bright and polished looking. The decades of mellowing and tone are the hard parts to fake.
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    InYHWHWeTrustInYHWHWeTrust Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Doesn't that look completely fabricated, or is that an acceptable thing to do? I tried to make a PO01 just for fun, starting with a host coin in the AG03 range and it turned out just like this. >>



    Let's see it.
    Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
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    InYHWHWeTrustInYHWHWeTrust Posts: 1,451 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Doesn't that look completely fabricated, or is that an acceptable thing to do? I tried to make a PO01 just for fun, starting with a host coin in the AG03 range and it turned out just like this. >>



    What method did you use? >>



    Rubbed it against other coins. >>



    How long did you rub? I have a few lowball coins on my desk that I fiddle with while working and it was quite the slow process for me. >>



    In my experience with key chain coins and what not, the only problem is when you are done with them they are bright and polished looking. The decades of mellowing and tone are IMPOSSIBLE to fake. >>



    Fixed for ya image

    Not applicable to Crypto, but there have been many who don't 'get' the pocketpiece or lowball niche and all of its wonderful nuances, post and diss the whole thing, or then boast about how they can make a lowball coin that doesn't look polished - I can't seem to recall one ever returning with before and after pics.

    A beautifully toned, slick dateless Walker was given to my best friend as part of a tip by a customer on his paper route when we were about 10 years old (1973) - and he gave it to me. This got me interested in 'old' coins. He used to get silver change all the time for tips. He gave me some Merc's that I still have as momentos, one I can't tell the last digit that also fueled the flame. The stories these old coins could tell...

    Do your best to avoid circular arguments, as it will help you reason better, because better reasoning is often a result of avoiding circular arguments.
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    leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I recently picked up a 1894 Morgan that IMO grades F 02. Just the top of the 94 shows in the date.



    Leo

    The more qualities observed in a coin, the more desirable that coin becomes!

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    DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'm not going to diss the collecting of these "slick" coins......it's just not my grade of choice.....and I certainly wouldn't pay extra for these very worn coins. I have some GOOD's in my sets because I can't afford higher grades.
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    SeattleSlammerSeattleSlammer Posts: 10,125 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How can they tell it's an '18-S? Just curious... I figured if a PO1 was ever made it would be a '46 DDR or something. >>




    I'm wondering, too.
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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>Doesn't that look completely fabricated, or is that an acceptable thing to do? I tried to make a PO01 just for fun, starting with a host coin in the AG03 range and it turned out just like this. >>



    Let's see it. >>



    Not quite to P01 yet, but here you go:
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    MilkmanDanMilkmanDan Posts: 3,768 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To clarify my point about the OP coin, it just looks a bit too silver and hairlined to be completely naturally circulated, similar to the coin I posted above that I "helped along" for fun.

    I see a big difference between the OP coin and something like this one:
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    Nice smooth surfaces with some tone or dirt, and a little crust in what little remains of the devices.

    Not that it really matters that much in the end but for what little I appreciate these well worn coins, at least they should be genuinely circulated.
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,787 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How can they tell it's an '18-S? Just curious... I figured if a PO1 was ever made it would be a '46 DDR or something. >>


    Not sure, but back in January I made a 1902 Morgan in PO1. It had been bounced previously with a "no decision", so I took pictures that illustrated the difference between a 1902 and a 1903, and then showed how the date lined up with 1902. I printed these and submitted them with the coin, and that helped in their decision process. Could be something similar was done with this coin to disambiguate the date in the time allotted to examine a coin.

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