unopened question

everythingcollector

with the recent explosion in unopened market for wax vending rack ect do you think this will drive up the prices of the cards itself? are people just buying this stuff to leave unopened? or bust it open and looking for the GEM MT 10 cards for grading? I mean 80.00 for a 77 topps pack is crazy I don't think there is one card in the 77 set that books raw for 80.00

grote15

We have already seen a sharp increase in the prices of key HOF and Rookie cards in PSA 9 (and 10) grade. I don't think that is necessarily the primary driver for the rapid acceleration in prices for vintage unopened product, but no question the significant appreciation in value for cards like the rookie cards of Schmidt, Brett, Yount, Molitor, Murray and Smith (just to name a few) is at least a factor. Five years ago, I could buy a PSA 9 75 Brett RC for about $400-$500. Today that card books for well over 1K. I bought a PSA 9 Ozzie Smith RC at auction in 2011 for $325. That card today is close to 1K, as well. So there is some correlation there between the appreciation of unopened prices and the card prices, at least with the key cards.

VictorLaszlo

Rising tide lifts all boats theory.

mlbfan2

<< <i>Rising tide lifts all boats theory. >>



Even the sunken ones?

ThoseBackPages

No. Plenty of opened product to go around

3BoyzTrading

I'd say the increase in prices of unopened is a direct result of breaking for PSA 10's. Use our group rips in the last seven years as an example. The cards themselves aren't scarcer, the sealed stuff is.

ChiefsFan1st

<< <i>are people just buying this stuff to leave unopened? >>



Yes. Im a small fish in the sea of unopened collectors, but if a wax box makes it to my house, its collecting dust.
Opening anything right now is a rich mans game. 99 out of 100 times, you will lose(as far as R.O.I).



<< <i>do you think this will drive up the prices of the cards itself >>



Also yes, to a lesser extent. Unopened is almost to the point that most people aint gonna open it(outside of the
rich guy senerio) so logic follows that the only place that mint cards are gonna come from is current opened
collections. Most people that do the grading game have already submitted anything"worth the money". So I
think the number of "mint" cards (of 70's and older stars/rookies) is gonna start to level off at current pops.
So if you want "that card" in 9 or 10, your gonna have to pay for 1 in the current pop. I think that drives up the
price a bit.

Of course, I could be way out in left field on this one

BobH

Also yes, to a lesser extent. Unopened is almost to the point that most people aint gonna open it(outside of the
rich guy senerio) so logic follows that the only place that mint cards are gonna come from is current opened
collections. Most people that do the grading game have already submitted anything"worth the money". So I
think the number of "mint" cards (of 70's and older stars/rookies) is gonna start to level off at current pops.
So if you want "that card" in 9 or 10, your gonna have to pay for 1 in the current pop. I think that drives up the
price a bit.


I bought a 75 Baseball Vending box from Collect Actions (Aug 2013) with the intention of opening it.But the recent run up changed my mind on that so I opened a 81 baseball wax box instead for the fun of it. That box is almost getting to the point where you don't want to rip it. Many years ago I gave Mark Murphy $800 for a 71 baseball vending box and had a blast going thru it. Obviously anyone in their right mind would not do that today.

mtcards

Unopened packs/boxes themselves have become a collectible. Non Sport has been that way for a while now as people are collecting the packs/boxes, but pretty much ignoring the cards. There is a point where the unopened packs of 1977 Topps will be less than the number of PSA 10's available....just not right now

PMKAY

No way I'm ever opening my box of ALF cards.