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akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭
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If you have experience with the silver flip GAI packs please PM me I have a few questions.

On an open forum topic can these silver label GAI wax packs be trusted?

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>If you have experience with the silver flip GAI packs please PM me I have a few questions.

    On an open forum topic can these silver label GAI wax packs be trusted? >>



    Impossible to say without more details, but the vast majority of GAI silver flip packs are perfectly fine.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • bigdcardsbigdcards Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭
    I'm definitely not an expert but not a novice either. I probably have 20 or so silver flip gai packs. I have never tried crossing any, but I've checked out a handful that were cracked and then ripped. I am confident they were all legit. The grades on the other hand are terrible. I have 7.5s that are great and have avoided countless auctions on high grade holders with low grade packs. I have had a few over graded as well. For one thing the pack can get damaged, but they are all over the place either way. I don't bid on the other gai flips unless it says it's from a sealed case.
    To bigdcards: "you are right" - cpamike "That is correct" -grote15
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    When PSA first started pack grading in '06 I crossed 4 packs from GAI to PSA. All graded one full grade higher. I decided I didn't like the holder (didn't think it protected the pack as well and also didn't like the visual appeal as much as GAI's) and crossed them back to GAI.

    I would agree with Tim that a vast majority of the silver labels are fine, at least in wax packs. GAI did have a period where Ryan Rutter was grading for them (were these the serial numbers that began with 102?) where things were a bit sketchier- especially with cellos. Cellos in general seem to be problematic at times for everyone.

    As with any item in any holder, buy the pack, not the holder. Check roller lines, folds, etc and keep an eye out for gum tears.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Anthony is correct--the Rutter era coincided with the 102XXX cert # assignments. There are many packs with those cert #s that are perfectly fine, but stay away from any "grocery" cello you see from 1970-1972 as they were all homemade and all bear cert #s beginning with 102, as they realized their error shortly thereafter and stopped grading them. They also graded a lot of bad 77 wax packs a bit later on that were coming from fabricated packs made from an uncut 77 roll of Topps wrappers. many of those were graded Mint 9 or even Gem Mint 9.5

    I also second the notion to buy the pack, not the holder. Familiarize yourself in what to look out for and what to avoid.


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The problem is, the holder makes it very difficult to see the roller lines, as it reflects the light.
    My 1972 Baseball and Wacky Pack Registry Sets
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,936 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Isn't there some irony when you're paying a premium for an authenticated pack, and then still have to authenticate it yourself?
    My 1972 Baseball and Wacky Pack Registry Sets
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