Census poll: If you own a 1909 Matte Proof Lincoln cent>

BWRC

Please post here which Die type your coin is, grade of your coin(s) and pictures if you wish.

The 2 die types are very easy to identify. Look at the images below and compare to your coin. Thanks for your participation.


1909 Matte Proof Cent Die 1-Obverse Die lines near Lincoln's nose


1909 Matte Proof Cent Die 2-Obverse Die lines out from Lincoln's eye

WaterSport

PR 64 R&B, Die #1

WS

illini420

PCGS PR65RB Die 1

Also recently sold an NGC PR65RB and an ANACS PR63RB, both were Die 1 as well

Steve

Mine is a PCGS PR64RB, Die #1

Steve

DMWJR

PR66RD, Die 1

There are more pics on the diagnostic threads:

MPL Diagnostic Threads

perfectstrike

64BN and Die #1
David

BWRC

In March of this year. Eagle Eye R.C had a 1909 MPL 1C Die 2 in a PCGS "rattle holder" graded PR65RD.

He sold it for $6,500

robec

66RB and 66BN, both Die #1.

tradedollarnut

I own a rattler 65RB but I don't own a glass so I cannot tell you which it is...

BWRC

1909 MPL Die 2 coin's can also be identified from the reverse. See images below.

Only the Die2 example will have the strong doubling on the "TE" of United,



Only the Die2 example will have the slanted line at the opening of the letter "C" in Cent.

BWRC

Since the discovery of the 1909 MPL Die2 in 2010.

I have been able to locate and purchase only 4 of these coins.

1909 MPL Die2 in PCGS PR65RB (sold to another dealer)

1909 MPL Die2 in PCGS PR65RD (sold to another dealer)

1909 MPL Die2 in PCGS PR66RB (still own this)

1909 MPL Die2 in PCGS PR66+RD (still own this)

FunwithMPL

A few of die 1's

Two of die 2's

Carl

BWRC

Hi Carl,

Thanks for responding.

Would you mind telling us what the grades of your coins are?

Thanks

FunwithMPL

Mr. Wagner

The first one is a PCGS 65 RB.

The other is a PCGS 63 BN and it is a very late strike.

Carl

WingedLiberty1957

PCGS PR65RB (die 1)

Burks

Any type of premium associated with Die 2 vs Die 1?

BWRC

<< <i>Any type of premium associated with Die 2 vs Die 1? >>



Excellent question.

I believe the Die2 coins had about 1/10th the mintage of Die1. So the coin is 10X rarer.

In my 4 years of handling this coin. I have seen it command at least twice the price of a Die1 coin.

Pricing factor's, such as toning, eye appeal, etc. will come into play for both coins.

WaterSport

Here is one on ebay with a Die #1 easily seen


1909 MPL


AND a die #2!

Text1909 #2

BWRC

<< <i>Here is one on ebay with a Die #1 easily seen


1909 MPL


AND a die #2!

Text1909 #2 >>



WS- I believe the 2nd coin is also Die 1:

Even though the lines along the nose are not visible on the image, you can pick up two features of the coin that identify it as a Die 1 specimen.

1. On the blow-up of the obverse, you can see the die line running off the back of Lincolns coat heading up towards the "R" in liberty.

2. On the blow-up of the reverse you don't see any doubling on the "TE" of united, which is a must for Die2

WaterSport

I thought I saw scratches, but hey.

There is a third one being sold on ebay by Coast to Coast. I looked up the Cert number and it was sold by Heritage last year. Unfortunately the Heritage photo is poor quality so you can not see which one it is.

WS

BWRC

<< <i>I thought I saw scratches, but hey.

There is a third one being sold on ebay by Coast to Coast. I looked up the Cert number and it was sold by Heritage last year. Unfortunately the Heritage photo is poor quality so you can not see which one it is.

WS >>



I made myself a mental note to check out C to C 1909 when and if I see him at an upcoming show. I think he has two 09's in stock?

BWRC

Went to C to C website and found the 1909 MPL Graded PCGS PR65RB.
Looks like it might have some nice color.

I was able to see the die line coming from the back of Lincoln's coat,
heading for the "R" in LIBERTY. The coin is also a Die 1.