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Looks more like an 8, am I wrong?

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  • mikliamiklia Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭
    not one of 4SC's best scans. had no idea that was a $200 card now.
  • StingrayStingray Posts: 8,843 ✭✭✭
    I think that the front centering is within PSA standards.
  • corncobbcorncobb Posts: 516 ✭

    PSA (and Any other TPGers) are free to make up whatever standards they want. Its their company.

    Like myself, the term "Gem Mint 10" implies perfection, which is also the standard of the high grade collecting community.

    While there are plenty of Shmucks willing to buy these sub standard cards for the cosmedic effect the label has on a registry set,

    The serious high grade collecting community still requires Perfection when the term GEM MINT 10 used and would not except that card as such, regardless weather
    or not it falls within any self proclaimed standards of any said grading companies.

    You also must consider the source of the card.
  • thehallmarkthehallmark Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭


    << <i>the term "Gem Mint 10" implies perfection, which is also the standard of the high grade collecting community. >>



    Not true at all. PSA has published standards that explain their grading system. If you expect PSA 10s to be perfect, that's your mistake, not theirs.
  • PaulMaulPaulMaul Posts: 4,891 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    << <i>the term "Gem Mint 10" implies perfection, which is also the standard of the high grade collecting community. >>



    Not true at all. PSA has published standards that explain their grading system. If you expect PSA 10s to be perfect, that's your mistake, not theirs. >>



    I think his point is that their standards fall short of what the collecting community would expect from the term GEM MINT. And I happen to agree.
    My 1972 Baseball and Wacky Pack Registry Sets
  • MapleleafMapleleaf Posts: 506 ✭


    << <i>

    You also must consider the source of the card. >>



    +1
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>the term "Gem Mint 10" implies perfection, which is also the standard of the high grade collecting community. >>



    Not true at all. PSA has published standards that explain their grading system. If you expect PSA 10s to be perfect, that's your mistake, not theirs. >>



    I think his point is that their standards fall short of what the collecting community would expect from the term GEM MINT. And I happen to agree. >>



    If this were true then slightly off center PSA 10's wouldn't sell for more than a garden variety PSA 9.
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    The card is not as bad as it looks. It is tilted in the holder and the top edge is hiding a little in the channel. It makes it appear off-centered and titled. While not centered 50/50, it is closer to 50/50 than 60/40 and still within acceptable tolerance. The centering that is most significant is the top to bottom which appears closer to 60/40 than 50/50. But then again, what do I know? I just happened to stay at a Holiday Inn Express, once...
  • corncobbcorncobb Posts: 516 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>the term "Gem Mint 10" implies perfection, which is also the standard of the high grade collecting community. >>



    Not true at all. PSA has published standards that explain their grading system. If you expect PSA 10s to be perfect, that's your mistake, not theirs. >>




    No mistake at all by me. My standards(which are the only ones that matter), are simply higher than the PSA published standards, which allows many sub-par
    cards like the oc 87 Cunningham to make it into GEM MINT slabs. PSA doesn't dictate to me what my standards are.

    In the case of an 87 Topps Randall Cunningham, im sure there are Plenty of "perfect" 10's (and 9's as well, that are 10's on any given day themselves),
    that are much more acceptable to the high grade collecting community as Gem Mint.

    Again regardless of the Stated PSA standards, NO true high grade "10" collector would ever opt for this card, When true perfect 9's and 10's are plentiful
    from the 1987 topps Football issue. (YES I said MINT 9's. see below)

    PS: I'll take a "Grader of Death Mint 9" over that 10 every day of the week. I collect high grade cards according to MY GRADING STANDARDS, Not PSA

    The card doesn't even make a MINT 9 on my scale. The OP is correct, NM-MT at at best with that centering.
  • corncobbcorncobb Posts: 516 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>the term "Gem Mint 10" implies perfection, which is also the standard of the high grade collecting community. >>



    Not true at all. PSA has published standards that explain their grading system. If you expect PSA 10s to be perfect, that's your mistake, not theirs. >>



    I think his point is that their standards fall short of what the collecting community would expect from the term GEM MINT. And I happen to agree. >>




    Exactly. Thank you for the clarification.
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