vending why the bad wrap ?

Thenugent

ain't sheeet left at BBCE no gum Vending blows away box/rack/cello and I don't understand those that say otherwise.

Stingray

I thought that there is a better chance of having damaged corners in a vending box, than at least wax and rack, though not cello??

Gemyanks10

Thenugent

yes on the first 10 on each end maybe but a heck of a lot better odds than wax boxes with that friggin gum and wax , and/or cellos with tight wrapped corners and also gum. leave that stuff to the yank fans that post pics of beer.

3BoyzTrading

Rack rules......with fifties , sixties ....some cellos aren't too bad.

Gemyanks10

Thanks for the compliments Nugent It's always appreciated. Being a life-long Yankee fan, I've developed thick skin. Not too many things I haven't heard over the years. In any event, I've ripped all 3..Vending, Wax and Cello and have gotten poor quality cards consistently from all 3 depending on my luck. Personally speaking, I've done the best on racks, the wax then vending in that order. I will say that after seeing Nikklos recent 1980 Topps Vending break, that superb quality cards can't be had by older vending. Problem is nowadays, it's not financially worth the risk to break older unopened. I understand chasing the 10's, but if i'm plunking down 1200 bucks for a 1980 Topps waxbox, I can't with common sense rip it, because you would have to pull 3 "9" Henderson's just to break even. To each his own though. I always enjoy the rips on here, and thought for sure Nikklos had more "10's" out of that box, I was shocked at some of his grades. But gives hope that Vending can produce quality..it just hasn't happened for me yet.
Cello I haven't dealt too much with but never did very good from what I did rip.

Jimmy

Thenugent

50s and 60s boxes ? why yes rack boxes would rule duh

grote15

If you're fortunate enough to get a case fresh vending box that's from middle of the case, then vending can certainly yield mint to even gem mint cards.

In general, though, rack and wax and better sources than vending for finding high grade cards, with cellos (from the 70s at least) trailing vending..

Edit to add: One appealing aspect about vending though is the lower price point, especially in this market.

70ToppsFanatic

<< <i>If you're fortunate enough to get a case fresh vending box that's from middle of the case, then vending can certainly yield mint to even gem mint cards.

In general, though, rack and wax and better sources than vending for finding high grade cards, with cellos (from the 70s at least) trailing vending..

Edit to add: One appealing aspect about vending though is the lower price point, especially in this market. >>



I have to agree with Tim on this one. Loose vending boxes are too prone to allowing the cards to shift (risking corner and edge damage) when they
are moved. And once Topps went to the unboxed cello (in 1973) it became a lot tougher to pull nice cards from those cellos (the 1970-1972 boxed
cellos, however, have yielded some higher-end results for me in the few that I opened).

But overall, for me the best cards consistently have come from racks. The cards don't move around as much within the packaging.

We also did very, very well when we broke some of my 1975 mini wax boxes here a few years back, but those boxes came from a sealed case and were stored
and shipped very carefully so that they did not bounce around much.

The 1972 Series 5/6 box we broke from BBCE in the "big" rip of late 2012 also yielded quite a few 8.5s, 9s and a few 10s. But again, those boxes (I believe
there were 14 in all) came direct from a former Topps executive who brought them home 40 years ago and just kept them in a cool, not too humid storage
location and left them untouched (and not bouncing around).

Vending from a sealed case is a different story. Much less movement of the boxes in the middle of the case, so much less chance of physical
damage.

Thenugent

side question: Why the heck is there no football vending around? Didn't Topps do that in the 70's 80's ?

ChiefsFan1st

<< <i>side question: Why the heck is there no football vending around? Didn't Topps do that in the 70's 80's ? >>



There is. The only vending box I ever opened was 1981 Topps FB. For what its worth, I got 2 Montanas(they both graded
PSA7). But I did get 2 PSA 10's out of that box!!

yankeeno7

I remember getting a 78 Topps vending box from Dave and Adams about 15 years ago. I hit a bunch of psa 9s but unfortunately no 10s. I look at the 9s and sometimes consider cracking them and resubbing because they could be 10s on any given day. They are that nice. But even with the 9s, Im happy. I got lucky on a nice box.