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Anyone ever deal with Cardinals reliever Pat Neshek?

Early last week four Cardinals and the club’s pied piper of wax packs filed in for a conference at the players’ union offices in Manhattan and found boxes upon boxes of baseball cards piled on a table. Inside each were 2014 and 2013 cards, shelf prices of $1 to $100 per pack, and, most importantly, they were unopened.
Four Cardinals went out of curiosity.

For Pat Neshek, this was Christmas.

“All the guys who went we didn’t know what to expect,” said rookie Kolten Wong. “Neshek — he’s such an avid collector. I got to sit next to him and every cool card I opened I showed him. ‘Oh, yeah, that’s a good card!’ Or, ‘Nah, that’s not a good card.’ Just being around him made us excited over the cards to see what we could pull.”

Neshek, a Cardinals righthanded reliever, makes this pilgrimage annually to the Major League Baseball Players’ Association headquarters and its bonanza of baseball cards. For most players, these cards are something they get in the mail, something they sign, and something they sometimes send back in self-addressed stamps envelope. Neshek is one of the people sending cards out to be signed. The sidearmer collects cards — vintage cards, mostly, and autographed cards — and his enthusiasm is so contagious that he’s changed some of the card culture in the Cardinals’ clubhouse. Neshek even collects them, competitively.

He has pieced together a complete set of 1970 Topps cards that he says is the third-ranked collection in the world, based on the quality of the cards. He slowly has found as many 10.0-graded cards — the score given flawless condition — as possible and the average grade of his 720-card set is the third highest. Since the end of spring training, he’s acquired enough 10s to inch up from 9.07 to 9.10.

“There’s the hunt of it,” Neshek said. “And the other thing I like about it is you learn about baseball history. I didn’t really know what the heck happened in baseball history before I was born in 1980. When you get into this and you start paying attention you learn about these guys, you’ll see them in the clubhouse and you’ll know what they did.

“In a way, you’re part of preserving history.”

Neshek, 33, came to baseball cards like most do, as a kid, drawn by the thrill of a new wax pack. If he was good in church, he got to go to Shinder’s, a newsstand chain in Minnesota’s Twin Cities. He spent his money earned on a paper route on packs. After youth baseball games, he’d turn his treat tickets in more packs, sold at the concession stands. These were the days of overproduced, overvalued cards, and Neshek came to love them. Jose Canseco’s 1986 Rated Rookie Donruss card might be in that next pack.

His roommate at college brought him along on some autograph hunts — the Connecticut women’s basketball team one weekend; the Ohio State men’s team the next — and eventually they started harvesting signatures at minor-league ballparks of future stars. He said he decided then that he wanted to live near a minor-league ballpark.

Within a few years, he was drafted and working at a minor-league ballpark.

Instead of a life in baseball as a collector, his life in baseball was baseball.

Neshek, a sixth-round pick by his hometown Twins in 2002, made his major-league debut in 2006. He set up a Web site that invited fans to send him cards for autographs and offered a barter system. He would trade them game-used items for memorabilia. He had a puck from the movie “Slap Shot,” signed footballs and stacks of other items. He sat at home while recovering from Tommy John surgery and had a revelation.

“Why do I have so many pieces?” he recalled. “I’ve got to narrow this down, get into categories. It was almost like I was a hoarder. I’m going to really focus on the things that I wanted to go after.”

He focused on cards.

The graded 1970 set became a quest. A year ago, he set out to get a complete set of 1985 Topps with an autograph on every card. This season, he’s working the same for 1970 — a complete set of autographed cards. Using collector sites such as SportsCollectors Net and VintageCardPrices.com, Neshek is able to monitor what cards are in circulation and their recent cost. The collectors track what retired players respond to autographs, and how long they take to return cards. He recently got an autographed card returned by Lou Marone, a lefty who pitched 2 1/3 innings for Pittsburgh in 1970. Neshek dutifully notified the card-collecting community he got the autograph back 120 days after he sent.

Recently he landed a Willie McCovey autographed 1970 card on eBay for $20. He was thrilled “not to break the bank.” He got Nolan Ryan to sign a card during a visit to Texas He talked Reggie Jackson to sign one during a visit. Neshek swapped a signed Joe Mauer card for a Darrell Porter autographed card.

Sometimes he slips a check in with the card hoping that increases the chances of a return. One of the final five cards he got to finish his 1985 autographed collection was from former MVP Fred Lynn. It came with a note.

“I loved facing sinker-ballers,” Lynn wrote, “so I’m signing your card. Good luck with your career.”

“I love it when I come home and there’s something waiting for me,” he said.

That joy he’s tried to share with his teammates.

Letters from kids and collectors alike gather in stacks at the Cardinals’ spring training facility and Busch Stadium. This spring, Neshek did as he has with previous teams, such as Oakland and Minnesota, and organized impromptu signing parties. Several times during spring training, Cardinals sat around the table in the clubhouse. Joe Kelly called it, “Fan Mail Friday.” Peter Bourjos and Kelly would open letters. Matt Carpenter would read a select few aloud. Michael Wacha would sign his cards. Neshek would pop the cards in the self-addressed stamped envelopes and then seal them. Then they would rotate. Carpenter would open. Kelly would read. Trevor Rosenthal would sign. And so on.

Neshek said he’ll organize similar signing parties during the regular season.

Neshek’s fondness for cards and well-known quests connected him to Evan Kaplan in about 2007. Kaplan, the union’s director of licensing and business development, invited Neshek to the union’s offices to see some of the new products.

On another visit they opened about $5,000 worth of cards or more. Neshek has recruited teammates to help promote collecting cards. And last week he led Wong, Kevin Siegrist, Seth Maness, and Randy Choate into the MLBPA’s business affairs conference room. Kaplan talked about each brand of card — the 2014 Topps cards, the 2014 Topps Gypsy Queen, 2014 Topps Heritage, and more – and then … let ’em rip.

Siegrist wondered why he didn’t have a card yet.

Within the first few packs opened, the players had found one.

Wong had the score of the day — or “pull,” in collector lingo — when he found a card, No. 26 of 50, that had a sliver of Babe Ruth’s bat embedded in it. He kept it. Most of the rest went to Neshek. He estimates that he has between 20,000 and 25,000 cards. He still has dozens of autographed 1970 cards to get to complete his collection, from Cookie Rojas’ to Ernie Banks’ to Bob Gibson’s. He was able to get Lou Brock’s during spring training. Some of the players have died, so he’ll apply autographs he can get to the cards, when possible.

At some point another consolidation is approaching.

The boy who collected baseball cards and grew up to be on baseball cards has his eye on an ultimate prize. The grail for card collectors is a Honus Wagner card from the early 1900s, the T206. Neshek would like to flip his many treasures into the biggest of them all.

“I would love that card. That might be the end game,” he said. “Then I could carry it with me.”
BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable

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    lahmejoonlahmejoon Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭
    Cool story. Thanks for sharing!
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    frankhardyfrankhardy Posts: 8,046 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. Love the story. Just saw Neshek pitch at Busch Stadium Friday night. I didn't know he collected.

    Shane

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    zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    He's a great guy.
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    MisterBungleMisterBungle Posts: 2,308 ✭✭✭

    Didn't know if I wanted to read all of that, so I looked
    at the comments first. Glad I decided to read it.
    Such a great story!!

    Kind of makes me wonder why all players don't collect,
    either while they are playing, or after they retire.

    ~


    "America suffers today from too much pluribus and not enough unum.".....Arthur Schlesinger Jr.

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    SOMSOM Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭
    Very cool!

    What publication did that article run in?
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    mrmoparmrmopar Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭✭
    Not sure how current he keeps it, but here is his website

    http://www.eteamz.com/PatNeshek/

    I collect Steve Garvey, Dodgers and signed cards. Collector since 1978.
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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    Fantastic article. Thanks for sharing. It was a fun read.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
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    This story ran in this weekends edition of the St. Louis Post Dispatch.
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    xbaggypantsxbaggypants Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭
    I use to trade with him all the time.
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    wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    Cool to see him on the registry....I am a huge Cardinal fan so I am really rooting for this guy now.....

    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
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    MooseDogMooseDog Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭
    I sent him 2 of his wants in his signed 1985 Topps set and he sent me 4 of his cards own signed.

    It's great that he gets teammates involved in interacting with fans too. When I was growing up in the 1970s access to players was so much easier, and it was the interaction that led to the deep seated love of sports that I have. I also used to do a lot of TTM autograph mailings and getting those back was just a thrill, the first thing I did after getting home from school was to check the mailbox!

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    He's the player who lost an infant the day Oakland won the AL West over the Rangers a couple years ago and insisted, along with his wife, to stay with the team as therapy.

    Here's a piece I did for Bleacher Report after he pitched against the Tigers in the ALCS:

    Neshek's Courage

    One of the more remarkable people to play the sport. Delighted to see he is such a big fan as well.
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    dennis07dennis07 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭
    He has a web site for auto seekers

    Link
    Collecting 1970 Topps baseball
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    wrestlingcardkingwrestlingcardking Posts: 4,555 ✭✭✭✭
    It looks like Pat Neshek got a signed Babe Ruth PSA/DNA baseball from John Lackey as part of a trade of uniform numbers. This is a great trade for an autograph collector. He is also having a hell of a season and going to be a free agent unless the Cardinals lock him up prior to free agency.
    BUYING Frank Gotch T229 Kopec
    Looking to BUY n332 1889 SF Hess cards and high grade cards from 19th century especially. "Once you have wrestled everything else in life is easy" Dan Gable
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    Recently mailed a couple of cards to Neshek for autographs, got them back in less than 2 weeks. The Upper Deck is for me, the Ginter state card is for my 11 year old. My sons and I really like the US set, so I mailed him 2 more: one for my other son (he's 8) and one for me. Hope to get those back too. I already have an autographed Chris Carpenter (NH) in a red flip PSA 9.

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