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Error 1983 P Quarter Spitting Eagle Broad struck/ Off Center No Edge Reeding micro P?

This to me is a nice find, it is a 1983 spitting eagle that is off center, looks a bit broad struck and has no edge reeding. I have to determine a value for this coin also as I will most likely be keeping it. Your opinions are welcome and any ideas as to a value would be helpful. Thank you in advance. Sorry about the bad pics if better pics are needed let me know and I will do what I can. Is the P mint mark a micro P?

I havent been around for a while as I was having many medical tests done and been feeling fairly under the weather but things are a bit better now.


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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,661 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome coin! Good luck and best wishes with your health

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • Thank you I appreciate it as my issues are driving my Dr.s crazy lol I like the coin very much and is a great addition to the collection.
  • 3keepSECRETif2rDEAD3keepSECRETif2rDEAD Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool Coin! Wishing you a speedy recovery John image

    Erik
  • Hey Eric,

    long time no talk. This is the only one I have seen like this, of course I have seen the spitting eagle but not with these other issues. Maybe I like error coins because of all my (medical) issues/errors lol.

    Whats on the food and drink list for tonight? I am making a big pork roast in the slow cooker and going to make it into pulled pork with my own sauce....
  • kazkaz Posts: 9,187 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That's a very neat error coin. Never seen one like it. The eagle appears to be drooling.
  • That is the spitting eagle though drooling is what it looks like more so or it could be a mouse tail hanging out lol
  • NotSureNotSure Posts: 2,978 ✭✭✭
    I wish you well in your recuperating and getting well.

    As for this particular coin, I agree, it is a cool error. I think I've seen more ERROR '83-P Washies than non-error Washies (naturally, I'm just kidding), but the Philly Mint, in '83, seemed to have produced A LOT of broadstruck and off center Washie errors. I have a few currently (about a half dozen), and overall, a bunch have passed through my hands. I've had 2 '83-P Washie error w/no reeding. A lot of the ones I've seen, tend to develop a really nice blue toning, which I keep (sorry, none imaged). As for price, I can't help...all I can contribute is that the '83-P Washie errors are, well, I might go as far as to say plentiful. Hopefully, errorsoncoins or Fred, maybe Herb or Broadstruck, or someone, can chime in with help as far as pricing. The ones I've sold, though with reeding, and I don't know if a 'spitting eagle' is going to add a premium or not, but with the multitude of them, they tend to bring less than I had thought/hoped for...and it's due to the number of them out there.
    I'll come up with something.
  • Hey Not Sure nice to hear from you I also forgot to as if the mint mark is smaller than normal, mico P? Usually the spitter brings a bit of a premium but we will see what people think, it would be nice to hear from Fred and Broadstruck on this well it is nice to hear from any one as many opinions will build a consensus. As for the medical stuff it is a continuation of my nervous system problem from what I am being told so no cure and just deal with each problem as it comes up.
  • crypto79crypto79 Posts: 8,623
    Looks off center to these eyes as design details are actually missing.
  • Thank you crypto as that is what I figure but it was just a bit larger than a normal strike.
  • DIMEMANDIMEMAN Posts: 22,403 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey John, good to see you back. Hope you get to feeling better soon!image

    Very neat variety....have no idea what it is worth. Varieties are hard to figure.
  • Hello DIMEMAN how are you doing? Nice to hear from you. I understand the problems with determining value which is why I figured I could get some opinions and average them out. More testing tomorrow 15 different biopsy spots to look at nerves etc.. even some fat samples which I have more than enough of lol
  • MedalCollectorMedalCollector Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As already stated, an off center.

    As to the value, I'm not sure either. It's one of those coins that fits into two categories (errors and varieties) and it might be tough to find someone who values it for both of these things. Someone may only want it for the off center aspect, or the splitting eagle aspect. I know there's a term for this you guys use for coins like this, but I can't think of it right now! It's also a late die state example, which may turn away someone who is valuing this coin for the variety, which is more prominent on an early die state specimen.

    I think it's also important to note that the spitting eagle variety could have happened on any quarter 1932-1998 because it is the result of a die clash. This die pair must have, and did as evidenced by the late die state of this piece, produced many coins. I've also observed that die clashes on 1932-1998 quarters aren't very common for some reason and this may be why this year has been singled out for the "spitting eagle variety".

    Edit: Sadly for 1983 quarters, Micro P is standard.
  • Thank you Sir GoldenEgg for the information and opinion.
  • That is really cool John! Awesome coin and look. I hope you do well tomorrow!
    (Titanic postcard??) image


    Eric
  • Thank Eric and I forgot the card in AZ. I will find it though.lol
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I'd call it 5% Off-Center.

    1983 is a very common date for
    Off Center Quarters, and I'm not
    aware of any premium for the date,
    because of this.....

    As far as a value, not counting the
    variety factor of the S/E, these
    are worth about $20 or thereabouts.
    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • Thank you very much for your time Mr.Weinberg I greatly appreciate it. I like the coin because of the multiple issues but I do understand that those issues actually limit this coins value. If I were to sell it I would have to find a person like myself who appreciates the multiple errors. Edit to add: is there enough overall value to make grading the coin worth the cost of said grading?
  • FredWeinbergFredWeinberg Posts: 5,847 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As I mentioned, I can't provide
    value for the Spitting Eagle factor,
    but in general, it doesn't seem to
    pay to slab a $20+ coin.

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • Thank you Fred.
  • Timbuk3Timbuk3 Posts: 11,658 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Very nice, definitely a keeper !!! image
    Timbuk3
  • Thats my thought also as I am not that into type style etc.. only on a coin the errors are what draws my attention.

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