Dude - Awesome 1969 Set!
gemint
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Hey Dude,
I went through your 1969 set and you have an awesome partial set! You even bested Bob Cacamese and Ron Sanders which is no easy task. After searching through raw cards for 20 years to build my 1969 set, I now feel my set building task was in vane at 8.04!
Should the 1969 set builders form a fab 5 like the 1972 collectors?
It's exiting to see what you've all managed to build so far. The 1969 set is real special and it's an honor to be part of the club. There are many tough cards in the set which makes it a challenge to build in PSA 8 or better. I'm looking forward to the day when someone completes the set with every card in PSA 8 or better. I have another 150 cards in at PSA now. I'm crossing my fingers hoping they treat me well..especially on the #110 Mike Shannon! When I started my set in 1982 at a card show in Philadelphia, I never conceived of professional grading or the internet. It's great to be able to talk to other collectors with similar interests.
Good luck finishing your set.
I went through your 1969 set and you have an awesome partial set! You even bested Bob Cacamese and Ron Sanders which is no easy task. After searching through raw cards for 20 years to build my 1969 set, I now feel my set building task was in vane at 8.04!
Should the 1969 set builders form a fab 5 like the 1972 collectors?
It's exiting to see what you've all managed to build so far. The 1969 set is real special and it's an honor to be part of the club. There are many tough cards in the set which makes it a challenge to build in PSA 8 or better. I'm looking forward to the day when someone completes the set with every card in PSA 8 or better. I have another 150 cards in at PSA now. I'm crossing my fingers hoping they treat me well..especially on the #110 Mike Shannon! When I started my set in 1982 at a card show in Philadelphia, I never conceived of professional grading or the internet. It's great to be able to talk to other collectors with similar interests.Good luck finishing your set.
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Gemint - With my modest 69' set I am honored to walk among Giants. This is my childhood set that I have been hacking away at all these years. I spent many years first completing it, then upgrading and finally, jumping into PSA slabbing back in 1998. On limited funds this has been a labor of love.
Bob, Ron, and Dan have shown us amazing material in our beloved 69's. Finer people and better collecting comrades are tough to find. Gemint - How bout' you giving us 69'ers our moniker?
1969Topps Baseball - My favorite topic!
RayB69Topps
Gemint - there can only be one Fab Five
Also note: Not all of the cards have shown up in the Registry yet. There seems to be a 1 or 2 day lag in my entries and scans.
<<I dont know if a set will ever be completed strictly in 8,9, and 10. There are so many really tough cards. The Whites alone will stop a few collectors. >>
Do you think that all collectors who are building this set are trying to also complete the whites, too? Though I typically collect all the variations of cards -- I know quite a few set collectors who don't, and who, I would presume, would consider their 1969 Topps set complete without the whites. I know that every set is different -- I guess I'm wondering if anyone out there would collect the straight set and be happy with it.
On that note, I think it is very silly that the Set Registry set composition includes every white/yellow letter variation as a "necessary" part of the set, but than makes other more important variations as an optional. For example, the Dalrymple variation to me is a much more integral part of the set than a white leter card. But, again, that's just me.
Ultimately I decided that this was one of the very things that made the 69 set great. I decided that for me, only the "Master Set" would do.
It is certainly going to weigh down the GPA of most serious collector because PSA 8 examples are so incredibly rare. Since my set currently contains quite a few PSA 7's I found owning PSA 7 White Letters appealing. My goal is PSA 8 or better on all cards, ultimately, with this set. As time has passed my appreciation for the rarity of the "Whites" has grown immensely.
I am frankly in awe of the PSA 8 examples in the sets of my fellow 69'ers Bob and Ron.
Some of the 7's that reside in my collection now in fact were kindly supplied by Bob.
Only the select group of White collectors can really appreciate how truly tough it is to find them nice.
To answer the question posed - I could nt be content with just the base set. Whether its the Dalrymple, the Nettles Loop or the Whites my set should contain them all.
1969Topps Baseball - My favorite topic.
RayB69Topps
My set is probably 90% PSA 8 or better quality. When I grade it all out, I'll consider it complete once all the non-variations are PSA 8 or better.
The set is 48.6% graded. I'm really only interested in completing the Basic 664 set and not the Master Set.
There were two major sources for the 69's, both from Houston. One was from Perry Schwartzberg who found a bunch of 3rd Series vending boxes in Pennsylvania. He once told me that he pulled 23 Reggie Jackson rookies and sold them to Jackson himself. He flew out to California and sold them to him in person (this was around 1990). He sold the other stars too right away. Many of the other cards came from a shop in Houston (now closed).
Next to Ray. Keep those 7's. If it wasnt you I wouldnt of let them go. There tough in 7 also.
Dan, believe me I know how bad the centering is on 69's. I recently uncovered a few 1st series vending boxes and only 10% of the cards were gradeable. I wish I never took them out of the box. At one time I had 400 Bobby Bonds (R) , a few hundred Ryan's, most of the stars. They all went in the early and mid 80's for dirt. Well its dirt now. Back then I thought it was decent money, found money in fact. If I only knew!
The set is what it is, a great set with major stars, a group of variations that will stand your hair on end trying to find. The 1 flaw as I see it is NO TEAM CARDS.
Thanks again!
RayB69Topps
Interested in Topps Baseball 1968-1975
It is interesting to add that the initial growth of my 1969 Topps set (conversion from raw to graded) occurred as a result from the generous advice and support from Dan Markel about 3 years ago. In fact, several of the 1 of 1 pops that I have came from him and they continue to be 1 of 1's. The experience and knowledge of gaspipe26 and 69topps8 has also been invaluable.
Ron