It's getting tougher and tougher out there

Nikklos

It is poppages like these that make you just want to throw in the towel. Sigh


22607394 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1972 TOPPS 57 BOB OLIVER Card
22607395 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1972 TOPPS 777 HOYT WILHELM Card
22607396 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 TOPPS 52 DENIS MENKE Card
22607397 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 TOPPS 356 WHITE SOX MGR./COACHES Card
22607398 MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 189 GREG LUZINSKI Card
22607399 MINT 9 1973 TOPPS 153 AL HRABOSKY Card
22607400 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1973 TOPPS 97 WILLIE MONTANEZ Card
22607401 NEAR MINT 7 1973 TOPPS 151 WES PARKER Card
22607402 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1980 TOPPS 393 OZZIE SMITH Card
22607403 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1980 TOPPS 393 OZZIE SMITH Card
22607404 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1980 TOPPS 599 MIKE NORRIS Card
22607405 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1980 TOPPS 701 KEN OBERKFELL Card
22607406 MINT 9 1980 TOPPS 250 JIM KAAT Card
22607407 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1980 TOPPS 493 JERRY MARTIN Card
22607408 MINT 9 1980 TOPPS 173 JOHN HENRY JOHNSON Card
22607409 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1980 TOPPS 408 BILL NORTH


With the possible exception of the Bull, it is as if the graders ask "OK what is the upper-most level we can grade this in order for it to still remain worthless?"

edmundfitzgerald

I find the best way to deal with bad poppage is to own some CLCT stock.

That way you feel better when you do some crackouts, knowing that CLCT will be making more money off you, thus you will
eventually make more off their stock.

Nikklos

I do have some CLCT and, yes, it has appreciated quite nicely due in part to my discovery of grading. lol

stormtrooper80

Hey, at least your grader got the memo about 8.5s.

Dialj

Your right, some things just never seem to amaze me.

Gemyanks10

Were those the 1980 Topps out of the vending rip? If so, I would have thought for sure that Mike Norris card would 10 it looked absolutely perfect and it's a pop 0 right now with 10's. Tough break indeed. Those cards were very sharp if they are the same I saw in the other thread.


Jimmy

Nikklos

Yep. these are the ones pictured from the vending rip. And, as I posted on another thread, the Mota RB got a 9 and the Henderson RC got an 8. My last couple of subs have been rough.

And it's true - good subs never have 8.5s. Bad subs always seem to have a few.

JoeBanzai

I HATE the 8.5!

Nikklos

OK Ok...maybe there is some black stuff going on under the position if you really magnify the thing.



By the way, I have to thank whoever figured out the Photobucket IMG code shortcut on the other thread. It is a breeze to post now. Thanks!!

mattyc_collection

I think that's an accurate grade. Sharp in most other respects-- especially the lovely centering I must add-- but has print issues all over the place. Underneath the "A's," on his cheek, in the blue sky, all around the position banner. That's not even high magnification and it leaps out, so I wouldn't feel like I was slighted on that one for sure. Definitely not an injustice there.

Nikklos

OK I'll buy that. Here's another low-pop I thought might do better (because I'm a glutton for punishment).

mattyc_collection

I'd say same thing; tremendous on the centering and corners. No tilt at all. But the surface killed it. Not just in the photo but all along the top white border there appears to be toning issues.

I can see some of the 80s cards reminding me of the 75s and minis, with certain cards having major surface issues right off the press. Would be a freak anomaly to not have the flaw. Like smudging on a Koufax or 76 Brett and the black line on almost every Bird/Magic.

Nikklos

Oh boy do I dare show you the 8.5s?

Nikklos

1980s are indeed tough.

gemint

I think we got the same grader...Though I do agree with DM23HOF that the Norris has print problems along the border and the Oberkfell has too much snow to 9. However, no reason those 8.5s shouldn't 9. And I'd say the Norris is no worse than the Kaat that 9'd. That's the inconsistency that drives me nuts.

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mattyc_collection

<< <i>I think we got the same grader...Though I do agree with DM23HOF that the Norris has print problems along the border and the Oberkfell has too much snow to 9. However, no reason those 8.5s shouldn't 9. And I'd say the Norris is no worse than the Kaat that 9'd. That's the inconsistency that drives me nuts. >>



Well said, sir.

Nikklos

Sigh, somewhere I have a Gem Mint '80 Ozzie I have to take out and admire with a newfound appreciation.