OCC - 09-S VDB & 09-S mm position thread

LanceNewmanOCC

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a preliminary guide.


i'll line everything up a bit better and add the vdb later.



because the image is kind of large. recommend to d/l to your computer to increase/decrease size easily.


NEW link added for 09-s




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ricko

Interesting... thanks... Cheers, RickO

Jeb

Very interesting. Thank you.

BLUEJAYWAY

I'm still hoping I can get some more opinions on why the VDB on the reverse is off-center in relation to the wheat tails. I received 2 opinions when I adressed this on another thread. Help from the experts,please?

curly

Thank you for the information.

1796HalfCent

Awesome. Add some fake ones to the collection for comparison.

LanceNewmanOCC

<< <i>Awesome. Add some fake ones to the collection for comparison. >>



i probably would have done that initially if i had enough images that were of high quality. i'll see what i can dig up since it is for sure a good idea to have a 5th column showing some turds.
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braddick

Good info. and helps me in my quest of checking 09-S Lincolns, obverse only- for the VDB wow factor.

LanceNewmanOCC

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ricko

Thanks for bumping this... Cheers, RickO

asheland

Great work!

PipestonePete

Here's my fake. I've had this for nearly 35 years.

LanceNewmanOCC

had to add images to this one as well.

all my previous links from previous threads regarding images i've uploaded, which are many, are dead. ugh...

Jimnight

Excellent and interesting!!

Thank you for sharing.

mr1931S

This kind of thread is what keeps me coming back.

mr1931S

pretty sure this one is a fake (no V.D.B.)

LanceNewmanOCC

@mr1874 said:

fwiw yours matches position 2 and the tilt. not all of them have the chip in the upper loop but position 2 does.

i am not confident enough to say 100% yours is ok w/o better and complete images but it isn't an obvious fake imo.

mr1931S

maybe I was thrown off by the tilt of the image. I see you straightened image out and applied grid to it. Thank you.

I agree. Not obviously a fake. And not being represented as a 1909-S V.D.B. either. Why would one add an 's' to a 1909 cent without a V.D.B.? Practice piece? Obviously, the less a counterfeiter has to do to a piece to alter it the better chance it has of escaping detection as a counterfeit.

I recently bought an altered to 19 I4 from 1944 cent. The piece has no 'D.' Workmanship is excellent. No trace of the cross parts of the first 4 can be seen under 10 power magnification. I think it was made as a practice piece, possibly a demo piece.