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How does one order pop faster than another at PSA?

Question.

How can an order with more cards, from different sports/years pop before another order with less cards/sports/years etc. Assuming both are submitted under the same service level...All things being equal.

Just don't understand how an order can be logged after another, same service level, with more cards, from different sets, and pop before an order that was logged first.

Do they just randomly pick up an order to grade in no particular order?

Just wondering how it's possible is all.
Thanks.

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭✭✭
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    imagine you are driving your car on the freeway. do you ever feel like you're in a race? other drivers are passing you by and taking the lead, but where's the finish line? you may never know, until you finish driving and reach your destination. that's your finish line. those other drivers may still be driving, or they have also crossed their own finish line, just like you.

    in this race, it appears there are no winners. just finishers. get it?


  • << <i>imagine you are driving your car on the freeway. do you ever feel like you're in a race? other drivers are passing you by and taking the lead, but where's the finish line? you may never know, until you finish driving and reach your destination. that's your finish line. those other drivers may still be driving, or they have also crossed their own finish line, just like you.

    in this race, it appears there are no winners. just finishers. get it? >>



    Yes, I understand this. My question, using this analogy would be:

    How can a Fred leave the BP gas station, driving a 1996 Ford Taurus, heading to Olive Garden.....beat Philip who left the same gas station, driving the same type of car, going to the same place...but left the gas station 4 hours earlier?
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭


    << <i>imagine you are driving your car on the freeway. do you ever feel like you're in a race? other drivers are passing you by and taking the lead, but where's the finish line? you may never know, until you finish driving and reach your destination. that's your finish line. those other drivers may still be driving, or they have also crossed their own finish line, just like you.

    in this race, it appears there are no winners. just finishers. get it? >>



    This sums it up nicely.
    In other words, they don't use the 'First In, First Out' method.
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>imagine you are driving your car on the freeway. do you ever feel like you're in a race? other drivers are passing you by and taking the lead, but where's the finish line? you may never know, until you finish driving and reach your destination. that's your finish line. those other drivers may still be driving, or they have also crossed their own finish line, just like you.

    in this race, it appears there are no winners. just finishers. get it? >>



    Yes, I understand this. My question, using this analogy would be:

    How can a Fred leave the BP gas station, driving a 1996 Ford Taurus, heading to Olive Garden.....beat Philip who left the same gas station, driving the same type of car, going to the same place...but left the gas station 4 hours earlier? >>



    hmmmm. i think this is easily explainable. Philip made a wrong turn and got stuck in traffic. i would also suggest that Fred might consider eating from the salad bar.


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    << <i>

    << <i>imagine you are driving your car on the freeway. do you ever feel like you're in a race? other drivers are passing you by and taking the lead, but where's the finish line? you may never know, until you finish driving and reach your destination. that's your finish line. those other drivers may still be driving, or they have also crossed their own finish line, just like you.

    in this race, it appears there are no winners. just finishers. get it? >>



    Yes, I understand this. My question, using this analogy would be:

    How can a Fred leave the BP gas station, driving a 1996 Ford Taurus, heading to Olive Garden.....beat Philip who left the same gas station, driving the same type of car, going to the same place...but left the gas station 4 hours earlier? >>



    hmmmm. i think this is easily explainable. Philip made a wrong turn and got stuck in traffic. i would also suggest that Fred might consider eating from the salad bar. >>




    Lol, no wrong turns...it's a straight shot to Olive Garden...Neither had car trouble, neither stopped to see a movie, weather was identical, traffic was identical.

    Fred hates salad, but loves rigatoni. Philip, on the other hand, is a big chicken Alfredo fan.
  • Mickey71Mickey71 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭✭
    One guy's name is Fred......the other one's name is Roger.image
  • lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i> How can a Fred leave the BP gas station, driving a 1996 Ford Taurus, heading to Olive Garden.....beat Philip who left the same gas station, driving the same type of car, going to the same place...but left the gas station 4 hours earlier



    Philip, on the other hand, is a big chicken Alfredo fan. >>



    Philip needs to go to Carrabbas instead lol
  • bobsbbcardsbobsbbcards Posts: 3,254 ✭✭✭


    << <i>In other words, they don't use the 'First In, First Out' method. >>



    It's baffling why they wouldn't.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The universe works in mysterious ways..


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  • rtimmerrtimmer Posts: 1,347 ✭✭✭✭
    I think your looking for a logical answer from an illogical process..... So you might not get satisfied here

    Myself I have completely given up trying to figure this out.

    For example I had an equal number of cards needing PSA signature athentication and then grading and a submission of already authenticated tickets that I wanted just numerically graded. Since one set needed the extra signature authentication and ticket authentication I thought those would be done first. Quite the other way though as I've had those tickets back for 3 weeks and the "easy" just needed grading tickets are still there waiting to pop.
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  • akuracy503akuracy503 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭

    If it is of any help, i've spoken with CU Customer service about ticket grading.
    They told me that their ticket grader is not full time and comes in once a month or so to fulfill orders.

    Hope that explains some of the turnaround times you've experienced.



    << <i>I think your looking for a logical answer from an illogical process..... So you might not get satisfied here

    Myself I have completely given up trying to figure this out.

    For example I had an equal number of cards needing PSA signature athentication and then grading and a submission of already authenticated tickets that I wanted just numerically graded. Since one set needed the extra signature authentication and ticket authentication I thought those would be done first. Quite the other way though as I've had those tickets back for 3 weeks and the "easy" just needed grading tickets are still there waiting to pop. >>

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  • fiveninerfiveniner Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭
    I would rather not comment.
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  • Not complaining or anything here, just a question is all.

    I think we have determined FIFO is not the process....anybody who can share what process IS used?
  • alifaxwa2alifaxwa2 Posts: 3,104 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Not complaining or anything here, just a question is all.

    I think we have determined FIFO is not the process....anybody who can share what process IS used? >>


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  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭

    I'M still trying to figure this one out.....Received 10/12/2013 1/13/2014 Shipped 40 Monthly Special 1 PSA
  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    Do you people have no common sense? Do you live in caves isolated from human contact? PSA is a subsidiary of a publicly traded company, CLCT. Today is the last day of their busiest quarter of the year. Would it not make sense that a larger order is pushed through so they can meet "their numbers"? Looking at the PSA odometer, they did not grow much if at all this quarter compared to last year or sequentially. They have been working Saturdays and Sunday's these last few weeks to push out as many orders and earn as much revenue as possible. Smaller, less revenue generating orders will get pushed aside.

    They don't throw darts. They know exactly what they are doing. They have it down to a precise science.
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,742 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Do you people have no common sense? Do you live in caves isolated from human contact? PSA is a subsidiary of a publicly traded company, CLCT. Today is the last day of their busiest quarter of the year. Would it not make sense that a larger order is pushed through so they can meet "their numbers"? Looking at the PSA odometer, they did not grow much if at all this quarter compared to last year or sequentially. They have been working Saturdays and Sunday's these last few weeks to push out as many orders and earn as much revenue as possible. Smaller, less revenue generating orders will get pushed aside.

    They don't throw darts. They know exactly what they are doing. They have it down to a precise science. >>



    This is incorrect. Larger orders do not "get pushed through" any faster than smaller orders. I've had larger orders go the distance and smaller orders pop in several days. You should do a little more research before reprimanding others and posting opinion as fact.


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  • << <i>Do you people have no common sense? Do you live in caves isolated from human contact? PSA is a subsidiary of a publicly traded company, CLCT. Today is the last day of their busiest quarter of the year. Would it not make sense that a larger order is pushed through so they can meet "their numbers"? Looking at the PSA odometer, they did not grow much if at all this quarter compared to last year or sequentially. They have been working Saturdays and Sunday's these last few weeks to push out as many orders and earn as much revenue as possible. Smaller, less revenue generating orders will get pushed aside.

    They don't throw darts. They know exactly what they are doing. They have it down to a precise science. >>




    Guess I must be living in a cave. Question though...how do (10) 15 card orders at 8.00 a card, with marked up shipping charges on each order generate less revenue than (1) 150 card order at 6.00 a card, and only (1) marked up shipping charge?

    It's amusing to see someone post an "I'm so much more intelligent than everyone else" message, while stating a point that makes absolutely no sense.
  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Seems to be his MO. Post something inflammatory and disappear when those with actual facts call him out.
  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    I've made 100's of thousands trading CLCT. Literally. No one follows the company more than me. I am within 2%-3% of their revenue and profit prediction every quarter. Maybe you should listen.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I've made 100's of thousands trading CLCT. Literally. No one follows the company more than me. I am within 2%-3% of their revenue and profit prediction every quarter. Maybe you should listen. >>




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    I am assuming this is you. If so I have read your posts for quite some time and they do seem pretty accurate.
  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    yes it is.

    Guess I must be living in a cave. Question though...how do (10) 15 card orders at 8.00 a card, with marked up shipping charges on each order generate less revenue than (1) 150 card order at 6.00 a card, and only (1) marked up shipping charge?

    I know you can't believe it, but they could care less about either of those orders. Both are lower than their average PSA ticket price. The higher orders (absolute and margin wise) go first at quarter end
  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭


  • << <i>I've made 100's of thousands trading CLCT. Literally. No one follows the company more than me. I am within 2%-3% of their revenue and profit prediction every quarter. Maybe you should listen. >>



    Congrats, I am truly impressed! On the other hand, usually, when someone begins to brag about making "100s of thousands" of dollars on a stock...When nobody asked in the first place.....they are FOS.


    Now, Mr. Gordon Gekko, how do 150 cards at 8 bucks a piece generate less revenue than 150 cards at 6 bucks a piece.

    Thanks.
  • dbcoindbcoin Posts: 2,200 ✭✭
    who cares

    Neither one moves the needle


  • << <i>yes it is.

    Guess I must be living in a cave. Question though...how do (10) 15 card orders at 8.00 a card, with marked up shipping charges on each order generate less revenue than (1) 150 card order at 6.00 a card, and only (1) marked up shipping charge?

    I know you can't believe it, but they could care less about either of those orders. Both are lower than their average PSA ticket price. The higher orders (absolute and margin wise) go first at quarter end >>



    That's great.

    Again, if they could care less about either of those orders.....how does one that arrived after another get graded first?

    Really not interested in PE ratios, charts, float, EPS, etc in this thread.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭


    << <i>yes it is.

    Guess I must be living in a cave. Question though...how do (10) 15 card orders at 8.00 a card, with marked up shipping charges on each order generate less revenue than (1) 150 card order at 6.00 a card, and only (1) marked up shipping charge?

    I know you can't believe it, but they could care less about either of those orders. Both are lower than their average PSA ticket price. The higher orders (absolute and margin wise) go first at quarter end >>




    Not sure how the large orders (I assume 1000+ ?) generate a higher profit margin than several smaller orders, since large submitters get a substantial per-card discount
  • CollectorAtWorkCollectorAtWork Posts: 859 ✭✭✭
    I have no idea what exactly happens, so I'll just hazard a guess. It's like this. You go to a grocery store (or a Costco) and there are 5 very long lines, all of equal length. You pick one. Your neighbor comes along 10 minutes later and picks another one, and is slightly behind you. However, then your line gets stuck because one customer's credit card expires, and another customer asks to talk to a supervisor. Before you know it, your neighbor is long gone out of the store, and you are still stuck in line. Bottom line: each submission *may* have been sent to different graders, and some graders may be faster or slower than others depending on the submissions ahead of you in their queue.
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,742 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff,

    No one puts stickers on card savers anymore. Doing so is not necessary and does not expedite the order at all. As long as the submission order is fully and accurately filled out and all cards are packaged in sequential order, you will be fine. I would recommend putting the # of day service on the outside of the box, though, which does seem to help with loggage, though if they are running behind, there really is no way to control that.


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