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I only submit 20-30 cards a year and I feel like I get penalized for it...

TishashereeTishasheree Posts: 85
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It seems like the people who submit more cards get better grades. Is there a better way to submit cards, in a group or through a 3rd party, where I may get better grades? Am I better off resubmitting myself?

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I can assure you that submitting more cards has no effect on grades, at least not in my experience, LOL..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • SteelernationSteelernation Posts: 362 ✭
    I'm a very small sample size but I've submitted one card, 75 Ryan, and it got a higher grade from PSA than the consensus of the members here on CU thought it would get.

    But I understand ur disappointment, I thought maybe it should have gotten one point higher. Ugh. Seriously, i do think they were fair for me.

    Now, if your going to bring up major submitters like those on eBay, well....many threads on that
  • 3BoyzTrading3BoyzTrading Posts: 798 ✭✭
    Honestly, the questionable grades from PSA that we've seen in the past have been slowing down. A few do get through but it's not as isolated as previously thought. From others recommendations in the last week. Don't send in 100 Rickey Henderson rookie cards all at once, use your free grading vouchers on expensive cards and send in all the PSA 9 78 Topps Reggie Jackson's with a PD qualifier for a review. No, but really, you can't expect every grade you expect to get to actually hit. PSA has been pretty good lately.
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭
    Lets think about what you're saying?

    You think that PSA singles out your 1 submission a year
    and relays it to the graders to screw you?
    Collector Focus

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  • skrezyna23skrezyna23 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It seems like the people who submit more cards get better grades. Is there a better way to submit cards, in a group or through a 3rd party, where I may get better grades? Am I better off resubmitting myself? >>



    I've submitted 186 cards for grading since I joined PSA in January. I currently have 72 in process. I only submit when there are monthly specials of $6 or less per card. Of the 186 I've submitted, 70 (38%) came back graded 8 or lower . I'm not sure if that is a good number or not. I solely collect Mattingly (1984-1996). So these are much more modern than anything someone submits from the 50s-60s. Some of these cards were taken from STAR sets that came bagged. Some individual cards that I've had for a while. I'm new to the grading world. I'm speaking for myself when I say I don't submit anything that I think looks less than gem mint where as someone sending in a much older card will be ecstatic when they get a 4 or 5. If something comes back a 9, I'm pretty much content but in time I may buy a 10. If anything comes back 8 or lower, I'm bummed out big-time and left wondering what I should do with it.

    HTH
    My Don sets / Donnie / Buehrle / Korean
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭
    If you are getting almost 40% below 8 on a modern sub then something is wrong..

    Collector Focus

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  • coachnip13coachnip13 Posts: 464


    << <i>Lets think about what you're saying?

    You think that PSA singles out your 1 submission a year
    and relays it to the graders to screw you? >>



    Come on. You're better than that. He's saying......and others around here have tended to agree.......that the major submitters might get a little boost since they essentially pay the rent.
  • skrezyna23skrezyna23 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭
    [quote]If you are getting almost 40% below 8 on a modern sub then something is wrong..[/quote]

    Below 9, but I'm not sure that changes your point.
    My Don sets / Donnie / Buehrle / Korean
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭
    Sorry I read that wrong.. Nothing wrong if you are getting 9's and an occasional 8..

    Collector Focus

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  • dennis07dennis07 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭
    If I'm not mistaken we have a couple of board members who will review your cards for a small fee before they go to PSA. They have a proven track record.
    Take 20 or so cards you think are Gem and get them to review. The amount they charge for review is much less than what PSA slabs them for.
    Collecting 1970 Topps baseball
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Lets think about what you're saying?

    You think that PSA singles out your 1 submission a year
    and relays it to the graders to screw you? >>



    Come on. You're better than that. He's saying......and others around here have tended to agree.......that the major submitters might get a little boost since they essentially pay the rent. >>



    I don't disagree with the major submitters get thrown a bone or two but that's not what he said.
    He said that he think PSA penalizes him for not submitting more cards. He thinks that his 20 to 30 cards
    per year get singled out by PSA and they grade them more harshly that is lunacy at it's best...
    Collector Focus

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  • coachnip13coachnip13 Posts: 464


    << <i>

    I don't disagree with the major submitters get thrown a bone or two but that's not what he said.
    He said that he think PSA penalizes him for not submitting more cards. He thinks that his 20 to 30 cards
    per year get singled out by PSA and they grade them more harshly that is lunacy at it's best... >>



    If you're going to play the semantics game, at least try not to be intellectually dishonest. The point he was making is obvious. Go feed the ducks or something if all you have to do this morning is twist a guy's words around.
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭
    These conspiracy theories drive me nuts. I've only submitted 11 cards EVER, and been very pleased overall with my grades. Only 1 was lower than I expected.
  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I can assure you that submitting more cards has no effect on grades, at least not in my experience, LOL.. >>



    Tim is right. What matters most is the luck of who does the grading and how they are grading that day. I didn't submit much (when I was submitting) but had 2 separate batches of equal quality cards. I was pleasantly surprised with one batch and unpleasantly surprised with the other. I still collect PSA graded cards but I just don't submit my own any more. Not worth the roll of the dice.
    Daniel
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    I don't disagree with the major submitters get thrown a bone or two but that's not what he said.
    He said that he think PSA penalizes him for not submitting more cards. He thinks that his 20 to 30 cards
    per year get singled out by PSA and they grade them more harshly that is lunacy at it's best... >>



    If you're going to play the semantics game, at least try not to be intellectually dishonest. The point he was making is obvious. Go feed the ducks or something if all you have to do this morning is twist a guy's words around. >>



    OK reread the title of the thread and tell me that I am twisting his words around....

    He thinks he is being penalized because he doesn't submit a lot of cards. So that means
    he thinks that PSA singles him and other small submitters out and purposely screws them
    on grades..
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  • coachnip13coachnip13 Posts: 464
    It's the opposite, champ. The feeling is that the few big time submitters get bumps that the rest of us don't get. But keep fighting the good fight.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>It seems like the people who submit more cards get more grades. >>



    profound. and so true.
  • skrezyna23skrezyna23 Posts: 908 ✭✭✭


    << <i> I still collect PSA graded cards but I just don't submit my own any more. Not worth the roll of the dice. >>



    I am starting to feel the same way about submitting. I'll buy what I can and submit what I can't find, with hope.
    My Don sets / Donnie / Buehrle / Korean
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭


    << <i>It's the opposite, champ. The feeling is that the few big time submitters get bumps that the rest of us don't get. But keep fighting the good fight. >>



    Oh I get it now... I and us are the same.....
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  • DakilloDakillo Posts: 158 ✭✭
    I might suggest the process is educational. After three years and about 600 submissions (in blocks of ~50 cards at a time), I can see a clear increase in the results of each as time goes on.

    Of course every one of us was excited about our first subs - we'd all be lying if we said we weren't high on our own stuff. On my very first attempt, I only sent what I thought would achieve an 8 or better. The results were OK (even with the 5, 6 and 7's), but it allowed me to physically inspect what was missed on each one. Fast forward to the most recent sub of 54 cards - a slew of 9's and tough 8's; only a couple of 7's and a PSA 4 (again...continuing education).

    PSA is the most consistent and fair TPG available, and I'm not just beating the drum...I really feel that way. The conspiracy theories regarding large volume sellers/submissions is great fodder for other threads. As far as this thread, and the OP's question, I would simply advise to learn from your results and press on.
  • coachnip13coachnip13 Posts: 464


    << <i>

    << <i>It's the opposite, champ. The feeling is that the few big time submitters get bumps that the rest of us don't get. But keep fighting the good fight. >>



    Oh I get it now... I and us are the same..... >>



    No, you were right. He really thinks that PSA has his name posted on the wall so that everyone screws just him. You nailed it. He wasn't talking about small time submitters in general. He just meant himself.
  • BostonAmericansBostonAmericans Posts: 434 ✭✭


    << <i>I might suggest the process is educational. After three years and about 600 submissions (in blocks of ~50 cards at a time), I can see a clear increase in the results of each as time goes on.

    Of course every one of us was excited about our first subs - we'd all be lying if we said we weren't high on our own stuff. On my very first attempt, I only sent what I thought would achieve an 8 or better. The results were OK (even with the 5, 6 and 7's), but it allowed me to physically inspect what was missed on each one. Fast forward to the most recent sub of 54 cards - a slew of 9's and tough 8's; only a couple of 7's and a PSA 4 (again...continuing education).

    PSA is the most consistent and fair TPG available, and I'm not just beating the drum...I really feel that way. The conspiracy theories regarding large volume sellers/submissions is great fodder for other threads. As far as this thread, and the OP's question, I would simply advise to learn from your results and press on. >>



    +1. I took a bath on my first sub, although admittedly I was treating it as an educational experience. When I submit now, it is primarily to get the cards slabbed. There are some registry sets I want to build, and I want to start displaying certain cards and the slabbed cards look so nice. This doesn't mean I submit cards I know will grade low. It does mean that I am taking a more critical eye to the raw cards I am acquiring. And I learned all about that from the guys here. So thank you for that.
    Collecting Topps Baseball: 1966-present base sets
    Topps/OPC Hockey 1966-Present base sets
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭


    << <i>I might suggest the process is educational. After three years and about 600 submissions (in blocks of ~50 cards at a time), I can see a clear increase in the results of each as time goes on. >>



    darn straight it's educational and it takes time and effort to shorten the learning curve to whatever extent you can, in other words, submit a few thousand cards, THEN make comparisons between yourselves and the "other guy".

    my earliest "lesson" was learned with good ol' 1975 Topps Baseball, which actually became a barometer of future success, but was a 400+ card grading disaster in its infancy.
  • jackstrawjackstraw Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i>It's the opposite, champ. The feeling is that the few big time submitters get bumps that the rest of us don't get. But keep fighting the good fight. >>



    Oh I get it now... I and us are the same..... >>



    No, you were right. He really thinks that PSA has his name posted on the wall so that everyone screws just him. You nailed it. He wasn't talking about small time submitters in general. He just meant himself. >>



    Too funny...
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  • LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome troll, Tishasheree! jack and coach need to get a room.
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  • stownstown Posts: 11,321 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>It seems like the people who submit more cards get more grades. >>



    profound. and so true. >>



    I see what you did there. Well played, sir.

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    So basically my kid won't be able to go to college, but at least I'll have a set where the three most expensive cards are of a player I despise ~ CDsNuts
  • TishashereeTishasheree Posts: 85


    << <i>Lets think about what you're saying?

    You think that PSA singles out your 1 submission a year
    and relays it to the graders to screw you? >>




    Of course I don't think that psa is singling out my submissions. I do suspect that they give better grades to people who submit a lot of cards. I guess I just need to look at my cards more carefully before submitting next time.
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    your last sentence is a positive step and it never hurts to gather opinions here with a few scans before submitting. most of those opinions are typically wrong, but that makes you feel smarter. image
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i> jack and coach need to get a room. >>



    .... With a heart shaped waterbed, Barry White surround sound, and soundproof walls.
  • 76collector76collector Posts: 986 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You need to be very picky. I have subbed a fair share of cards, and as I look back at my first subs I felt I got screwed then, but now I can usually pick out a diamond cut, print dot, smudge, etc that I missed from earlier subs. There is no doubt that you WILL find cards out there that don't belong in the holders they are in. I don't think anyone here will be able to explain that to you with any degree of accuracy though, but they will offer up their opinions. Good luck on future subs, and like itzagoner said, it doesn't hurt to enlist the opinions of the guy's on the boards. Some have very keen eyes and will likely catch something you may have missed.

    Jeff

    I cannot hit curveball. Straightball I hit it very much. Curveball, bats are afraid.
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    post world war II HOF rookie
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  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Of course I don't think that psa is singling out my submissions. I do suspect that they give better grades to people who submit a lot of cards. I guess I just need to look at my cards more carefully before submitting next time. >>



    Can you post some scans of your graded cards here?
  • Carew29Carew29 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭
    I'm going to give you two examples and you explain it to me. As i once heard an College Football Coach friend of mine say "I didn't get stupid over the summer" ..when they had a losing season.

    One of many orders from 2010. Mostly very nice grades with a few low balls.

    1 1 17228251 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 4 LIONEL BARRYMORE Card
    2 1 17228252 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 5 WALLACE BERRY Card
    3 1 17228253 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 6 JOAN BLONDELL Card
    4 1 17228254 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 7 JOE E. BROWN Card
    5 1 17228255 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 8 JAMES CAGNEY Card
    6 1 17228256 MINT 9 OC 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 9 MAURICE CHEVALIER Card
    7 1 17228257 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 10 CLAUDETTE COLBERT Card
    8 1 17228258 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 11 JACKIE COOPER Card
    9 1 17228259 NEAR MINT 7 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 12 JOAN CRAWFORD Card
    10 1 17228260 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 13 BING CROSBY Card
    11 1 17228261 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 14 MARION DAVIES Card
    12 1 17228262 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 15 JIMMY DURANTE Card
    13 1 17228263 GEM MINT 10 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 18 KAY FRANCIS Card
    14 1 17228264 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 19 CLARK GABLE Card
    15 1 17228265 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 20 GRETA GARBO Card
    16 1 17228266 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 26 S.LAUREL & O.HARDY Card
    17 1 17228267 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 28 CAROLE LOMBARD Card
    18 1 17228268 MINT 9 OC 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 29 MYRNA LOY Card
    19 1 17228269 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 31 IDA LUPINO Card
    20 1 17228270 NEAR MINT 7 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 32 JEANETTE MacDONALD Card
    21 1 17228271 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 34 HERBERT MARSHALL Card
    22 1 17228272 EXCELLENT 5 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 36 ROBERT MONTGOMERY Card
    23 1 17228273 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 38 MAUREEN O'SULLIVAN Card
    24 1 17228274 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 39 WILLIAM POWELL Card
    25 1 17228275 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 40 GEORGE RAFT Card
    26 1 17228276 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 43 NORMA SHEARER Card
    27 1 17228277 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 45 MARGARET SULLAVAN Card
    28 1 17228278 NEAR MINT 7 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 51 ANNA MAY WONG Card
    29 1 17228279 EXCELLENT 5 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 52 BARBARA STANWYCK Card
    30 1 17228280 GEM MINT 10 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 58 IRENE DUNN Card
    31 1 17228281 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 62 LORETTA YOUNG Card
    32 1 17228282 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 72 DICK POWELL Card
    33 1 17228283 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 74 SPENCER TRACY Card
    34 1 17228284 NEAR MINT+ 7.5 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 83 MARLENE DIETRICH Card
    35 1 17228285 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 85 BETTE DAVIS Card
    36 1 17228286 NEAR MINT-MINT+ 8.5 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 87 FAY WRAY Card
    37 1 17228287 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 99 D. FAIRBANKS JR. Card
    38 1 17228288 MINT 9 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 70 EDDIE CANTOR Card
    39 1 17228289 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 100 JOHN BARRYMORE Card
    40 1 17228290 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1930 MASSARY CAID BERUHMTER FILMKUNSTLER 226 JEAN HARLOW Card
    41 1 17228291 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1930 MASSARY CAID BERUHMTER FILMKUNSTLER 227 JEAN HARLOW Card
    42 1 17228292 EXCELLENT 5 1930 MASSARY CAID BERUHMTER FILMKUNSTLER 228 JEAN HARLOW Card
    43 1 17228293 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1934 CARRERAS LTD. FILM STARS W/O-REAL PHOTOS 21 JEAN HARLOW Card
    44 1 17228294 MINT 9 1934 GARBATY CIGARETTE MODERNE SCHONHEITSGALERIE 153 JEAN HARLOW Card
    44 2 17228295 GEM MINT 10 1934 GARBATY CIGARETTE MODERNE SCHONHEITSGALERIE 153 JEAN HARLOW Card
    45 1 17228296 NEAR MINT 7 1934 GARBATY CIGARETTE MODERNE SCHONHEITSGALERIE 64 JEAN HARLOW SERIES 2 Card
    45 2 17228297 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1934 GARBATY CIGARETTE MODERNE SCHONHEITSGALERIE 64 JEAN HARLOW SERIES 2 Card
    46 1 17228298 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1934 GARBATY CIGARETTE MODERNE SCHONHEITSGALERIE 66 JEAN HARLOW SERIES 2 Card
    46 2 17228299 EXCELLENT 5 1934 GARBATY CIGARETTE MODERNE SCHONHEITSGALERIE 66 JEAN HARLOW SERIES 2 Card
    47 1 17228300 MINT 9 1934 GARBATY CIGARETTE MODERNE SCHONHEITSGALERIE 269 ANNIE MARKART/MAX SCHMELING SERIES 2 Card
    47 2 17228301 GEM MINT 10 1934 GARBATY CIGARETTE MODERNE SCHONHEITSGALERIE 269 ANNIE MARKART/MAX SCHMELING SERIES 2 Card
    47 3 17228302 GEM MINT 10 1934 GARBATY CIGARETTE MODERNE SCHONHEITSGALERIE 269 ANNIE MARKART/MAX SCHMELING SERIES 2 Card
    48 1 17228303 NEAR MINT 7 1936 GODFREY PHILLIPS LTD. STARS OF THE SCREEN 18 JEAN HARLOW STARS OF THE SCREEN Card
    48 2 17228304 NEAR MINT 7 1936 GODFREY PHILLIPS LTD. STARS OF THE SCREEN 18 JEAN HARLOW STARS OF THE SCREEN Card
    49 1 17228305 NEAR MINT 7 1936 FACCHINO CINEMA STARS 23 JEAN HARLOW Card
    50 1 17228306 MINT 9 1934 LLOYD & SONS CINEMA STARS GLOSSY 48 JEAN HARLOW Card

    now 4 years later 2014.....I didn't get stupid in my grading abilities. This was a waste of my money. Those Leafs are 7's and 8's any day of the week and twice on sunday

    1 1 22297805 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1957 PLANES RED BACK/BLUE BACK 43 COLONIAL SKIMMER BLUE BACK Card
    2 1 22297806 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 1957 PLANES RED BACK/BLUE BACK 3 F7U-3 CUTLASS BLUE BACK Card
    3 1 22297807 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 10 CONNIE FRANCIS Card
    4 1 22297808 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 15 RICKY NELSON Card
    5 1 22297809 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 17 FATS DOMINO Card
    6 1 22297810 N8: MISCUT 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 19 RAY CHARLES Card
    7 1 22297811 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 24 ELKE SOMMER Card
    8 1 22297812 N8: MISCUT 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 32 SOPHIA LOREN Card
    9 1 22297813 N8: MISCUT 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 33 GINA LOLLOBRIGIDA Card
    10 1 22297814 EXCELLENT 5 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 51 ROBERT WAGNER Card
    11 1 22297815 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 52 JULIET PROWSE Card
    12 1 22297816 EXCELLENT 5 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 55 SHIRLEY McLAINE Card
    13 1 22297817 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 56 ANTHONY PERKINS Card
    14 1 22297818 EXCELLENT 5 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 58 ROCK HUDSON Card
    15 1 22297819 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 59 EARTHA KITT/NAT KING COLE Card
    16 1 22297820 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 61 JOHN WAYNE Card
    17 1 22297821 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 64 WILLIAM HOLDEN Card
    18 1 22297822 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 65 PAT BOONE Card
    19 1 22297823 EXCELLENT 5 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 67 DEAN MARTIN Card
    20 1 22297824 EXCELLENT 5 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 68 DANNY KAYE Card
    21 1 22297825 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 69 MARLON BRANDO Card
    22 1 22297826 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 70 ELIZABETH TAYLOR Card
    23 1 22297827 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 71 CONNIE STEVENS Card
    24 1 22297828 N8: MISCUT 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 73 ELVIS PRESLEY Card
    25 1 22297829 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 74 WARREN BEATTY Card
    26 1 22297830 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 80 AUDREY HEPBURN Card
    27 1 22297831 EXCELLENT 5 1960 LEAF SALES CONFECTIONERY FILM STARS 82 JAMES DARREN Card
    28 1 22297832 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 OC 1959 KANE PRODUCTS LTD DISC STARS 9 ELVIS PRESLEY Card
    29 1 22297833 EXCELLENT 5 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 13 A DUAL DECISION NETHERLANDS Card
    29 2 22297834 NEAR MINT 7 OC 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 13 A DUAL DECISION NETHERLANDS Card
    30 1 22297835 NEAR MINT 7 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 16 HIDE-AND-GO-RIDDLE NETHERLANDS Card
    30 2 22297836 NEAR MINT 7 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 16 HIDE-AND-GO-RIDDLE NETHERLANDS Card
    31 1 22297837 VERY GOOD-EXCELLENT 4 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 19 A PURR-FECT PLOT NETHERLANDS Card
    31 2 22297838 NEAR MINT 7 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 19 A PURR-FECT PLOT NETHERLANDS Card
    32 1 22297839 EXCELLENT-MINT 6 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 22 AWESOME FOURSOME NETHERLANDS Card
    32 2 22297840 NEAR MINT 7 MC 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 22 AWESOME FOURSOME NETHERLANDS Card
    33 1 22297841 GOOD 2 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 31 BAT ON A BUOY NETHERLANDS Card
    33 2 22297842 NEAR MINT 7 1966 A & BC BATMAN RIDDLER BACK 31 BAT ON A BUOY NETHERLANDS Card
    34 1 22297843 GEM MINT 10 1979 TOPPS 475 JACK LAMBERT Card
  • BoopottsBoopotts Posts: 6,784 ✭✭
    FWIW, I can say that I'm nearly 100% certain that big submitters do not get a break in the grading room.
  • EagleEyeKidEagleEyeKid Posts: 4,496 ✭✭
    What Boo said.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    I think it could be that you get the occasional grader who grades more closely, even though that shouldnt happen, the same person can look at a card, as given by the posts on this board on grading opinions, and you can get a 3 grade range. Probably the same in the grading room
    IT IS ALWAYS CHEAPER TO NOT SELL ON EBAY
  • soundgardsoundgard Posts: 650 ✭
    The last time I sent in cards to PSA was 2008. Cracked out 2 PSA cards and they came back EOT. That is the last time they will ever get my business.
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