Any Red Sox buffs here? Jacoby Ellbury fans
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This is my first time posting over here. I have been on the currency side as a lurker for years and a poster more recently. I have a good red sox baseball I am considering selling. Its the ball in play of Jacoby Ellesbury's first stolen base. It is signed and noted "first stolen base 7/2/07. It is all certified with a certificate from Steiner. The ball has a hologram sticker. 100% legit. I bought it at Fenway park and paid big big money.
If you guys want pictures I can take them and I will post them. I just wanted to see if A-there was interest and B- if we had any red sox fans who would care about this baseball.
My pm is on if anyone needs to use it.
If you guys want pictures I can take them and I will post them. I just wanted to see if A-there was interest and B- if we had any red sox fans who would care about this baseball.
My pm is on if anyone needs to use it.
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Nice ball btw.
-Jason
However, Jacoby Ellsbury will always remain a part of Red Sox nation. A few championships under his belt to support it. I would also like to mention that 2007 was another world series year for the sox if you had not thought of it.
once you sign with the Yankees--IMO--you are out forever. Clemens, Boggs, Sparky Lyle--gone gone gone
good luck with the sale however
Go Sox-----don't go Jacoby!!!!
she burned it to ashes when he signed with the Yankees..
That type of hate is negative energy to carry within oneself. It can also manifest in senseless brawls among fellow Americans who would otherwise help each other in a true crisis. As much as sports can be unifying for fans of the same team, we must all temper that enthusiasm so it does not become too divisive. Indeed it is a good thing to remember that beyond being countrymen, Yankee and Red Sox fans both love baseball
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<< <i>Very nice ball. BaltimoreYankee used to dislike Ellsbury
Me too! All of a sudden I feel quite an affinity for him.
That's a lot of Red Sox hate for Ellsbury, but I'm surprised a guy who was so integral to such a great Red Sox WS run would be that despised.
plus he's a mainstay on my keeper league fantasy team...
I have a nice, matted 16x20 photo that he signed in November 07 and a ball (sold it after he signed with the Yankees) that were also from a BC Sports signing.
<< <i>I dont think there is hate for him. He spent some of his best years with the sox. I am sure some people squak about his going to the Yanks but we are used to seeing them take our sloppy seconds. >>
He cleaned up good. Keep em comin'
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Am I mistaken???
Did I pay big money for a generic ball?
I am sorry but I just cant accept that.
This is the ball in play when he stole his first base then when on to score a home run on a wild pitch from 2nd. Is this a generic ball guys?
If you are seeking to sell it, then the best way to find out what it's worth is to place it up for sale in a venue where it will be seen by as many eyeballs as possible; that's the only way to really find out if one paid a good price. But if this was an item owned and enjoyed for years, that needs to be considered when selling; that was value gotten from the piece.
When selling cards or collectibles, I personally look at breaking even as a great thing, and anything atop that is gravy.
On a tangential note, it seems to me that so many "collectors" seem so hung up in what a piece is "worth" on any given day, as opposed to taking great enjoyment and pride in an item's beauty or rarity or superior quality. Of course, no one wants to lose money upon selling, but then if that's the sole goal, one needs to stick exclusively to the real "blue chip" high-demand or extremely rare items, be they 52 Mantles, eye-appealing (accurately graded) popular HOFer RCs, etc. The farther one strays from such items, the more one knows, going in, that they risk their initial outlay.
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<< <i>This is the ball in play when he stole his first base then when on to score a home run on a wild pitch from 2nd. >>
I would say the ball is worth way more than $80. I would hold out for top dollar.
Hitting a home run from 2nd base is a feat in itself and clearly has never been done by anyone else in the history of MLB.
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I've purchased several game used balls from MLB stadiums where the MLB ID states the actual play the ball originated from, whether it be a foul ball or hit.
Thus my opinion that the balls significance can't really be tied to Ellsburys stolen base play.
It is unfortunate if the owner was told otherwise.
Just for comparison i brought up my Jeter hit ball, the MLB ID shows who pitched and what inning Jeter hit it.
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Can you really buy a Derek Jeter base hit ball with COA to support it for that price? At Yankee stadium nonetheless??
This person told me the ball "lacks provenance" and is "generic".
So this is one of the 3 COA's that came with the ball. Doesnt it support the hand written inscription by Ellsbury? Is it really generic? Or is someone trying to hose me?
This will be my final statement on the thread regarding the matter.
I had only inquired once about the ball, but you continued to send me over 10 more PM's over a 2 week span offering me a lower sale price (I never responded until I finally got fed up and called the scenario out).
Scenario being:
Game used balls from MLB do have specific plays documented in reference to the MLB ID #. No one can confirm any such play (let alone Ellsbury's stolen base play) because your MLB ID # states that it was just "game used" on that date.
Perhaps it was an error on MLB's part regarding the ball's provenance.
Or could it be that your COA issuer purchased a mass amount of game used balls from that game and had Ellsbury sign them with "first stolen base".
Yes, i've purchased game used hit balls, foul balls etc at ballparks in the $40-$80 range, one being a Jeter hit from years ago at Safeco field.
Take care.
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Post your MLB ID # and go to this website:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/authentication/
MLB even states that it was "game used" on that date. However no specific play referenced.
Believe me MLB does indicate if a ball was used in a specific play and it would be stated in the reference website.
You asked for it and now I just want it to be known so no one else gets mislead into believing it was used in Ellsbury's first stolen base play. Which your price tag supports.
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Here is my response to your latest PM:
Your ball is honestly not worth more than $80 for it's provenance of game used. The signature itself is worth a hundred or two? so to be fair yes $200-300 range would be fitting.
I don't believe you are understanding that the ball was not tied to an actual play.
If someone who had a game used ball from Mark McGwire's 500th homerun game, could they pass it off as THE home run ball? and markup the price? Absolutely not.
Do yourself a favor and educate yourself on these subjects before mouthing off. It's fairly transparent based on your thread that you have no clue.
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Hologram number BB558088 was located in the MLB Authentication Database under BALLS.
Session Product Description: GAME USED BALL
Session Name: TEXAS RANGERS @ BOSTON RED SOX
Session Date: July 02, 2007
Autographer:
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.
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Mar/17/2014 12:10 AMHi there,
I'm a big Ellsbury fan.
He played ball at my alma mater Oregon State.
He's also an Oregonian like myself.
Curious what you paid for the ball and what you're looking to sell it for?
And yes I'm a big Red Sox fan.
Martin
I contacted you a couple of times when I dropped the price to let you know because you showed interest. You did not respond to a couple of pm's as the price got lower and then you responded with-
Mar/25/2014 10:49 PMI have a Derek Jeter game used hit ball that I obtained at Safeco field for $80.
Not to rain on your parade but I'd never pay more for a generic game used ball.
Good luck on the sale.
I had no desire to bring your name out to the forum with your attempt to devalue my item. I never did. You did. It appears that now you somehow want to make it appear as though I have wronged you. Sorry but I know better then to let someone talk me into selling my stuff for to cheap. So its up to you if you have more to say about this. I really dont.
Just let that fact be known, but i'm sure CU members are wise enough to know this already.
Good luck on your sale.
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If you really want to support your statement about this not being Ellsbury's 1st stolen base game used ball I think you would either need to produce another ball with the same inscription or somehow prove that the COA's are fake.
I think that $450 for this ball is more than fair and for some reason you seem hell bent on wanting to see it devalued to your impression of value. Dont you have something more constructive to do?
<< <i>The ball wasnt used in Ellsbury's stolen base play as you stated in your first post to this thread.
Just let that fact be known, but i'm sure CU members are wise enough to know this already.
Good luck on your sale. >>
count me in as among those that knew this from the beginning
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<< <i>This thread went south quickly. Was your purpose initially to share the ball with the board as a part of your collection or to pitch it for sale? If the latter, you should have just listed it for sale on the correct forum and left it at that. As DM stated, I don't know why you'd be "soured" just because someone offered you a price at less than what you thought it was worth. It's certainly not something I would air out in the open like this, in any case. >>
Im sorry. I believe your right. I am kind of new to this forum and what you said makes sense.
From what I can tell with a quick google search, they go through around 70 balls per game (HRs and/or fouls into the stands, over scuffed, pitched into the dirt, etc).
I want to do a poll to see if I should chime in or not.
I agree with others stating that the ball you have is just a ball from the game he stole his first base with. Still an awesome ball though.
That's like trying to selling a base from someone's first HR....