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Is this being shilled? Quick response appreciated

Before I bid on a fairly high dollar item that ends tonight, is it fishy if the two highest bids so far for an auction are 1) from a bidder with over 2,000 feedback and 38% of their bids over last 30 days with this seller (on 111 different items from seller), and 2) a bidder with over 1,000 feedback that over last 30 days has bid on 34 items from this seller, which is 57% of their total bids over last 30 days?

If that's not fishy, I apologize for the question. I just don't want to bid if this sounds like it's being shilled. Thank you.

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  • post link to auction
  • doog71doog71 Posts: 405 ✭✭


    << <i>post link to auction >>



    I'd rather not do that, I don't want to implicate a seller if they're being honest. If people here feel confident it's being shilled, perhaps I will link to auction.
  • Is it possible that the seller is just really solid and two loyal buyers are in a bidding war over a card that is in demand? If you said that they had ZERO feedback I would be more suspicious.
  • doog71doog71 Posts: 405 ✭✭


    << <i>Is it possible that the seller is just really solid and two loyal buyers are in a bidding war over a card that is in demand? If you said that they had ZERO feedback I would be more suspicious. >>



    Sure, that could be it. I just don't know much about how to detect shill bids - for what it's worth, the other underbidder has "private" feedback.
  • jfkheatjfkheat Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Can you check the feedback of the seller to see in the two bidders in question left feedback? Maybe the two bidders are working on sets and the seller had a bunch of cards that these two need for their sets. I know there is a member on here that listed a bunch of cards that I wanted to upgrade one of my sets. I won about 50 cards one night so if you had looked at the seller's bid history it would have shown the same type of info as the two bidders you are asking about.
    James
  • otwcardsotwcards Posts: 5,291 ✭✭✭
    The key is to look at the seller's auctions and see if there is a unique set(s) or issue(s) that may attract a buyer(s) to bid on multiple items. If such is the case, it may not be out of the norm. I know that when some sellers list certain runs of an issue that I collect, I've bid on quite a number of them and my bid % with that seller may be rather high over a short period of time.
  • Is it an auction ending in the next hr to hr and a half? Cause that one looks sooooo suspicious
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