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Is there a better rookie crop than from 1987?

I was mulling over this in some scanning pattern, and it seemed to me that 1987 has one the best rookie crops that I can recall. This is the list:

Mark McGwire
Barry Bonds
Will Clark
Barry Larkin
Greg Maddux
Ruben Sierra
Pete Incagvilia
Bo Jackson
Rafael Palmeiro
Kevin Mitchell
Cory Snyder
John Kruk
Mike Greenfield
Devon White
BJ Surhoff

ok maybe some of these guys did not pan out the way we had hopes. But its an impressive rookie class. Is there a better one?
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    JHS5120JHS5120 Posts: 1,968 ✭✭✭
    I always liked 1975's rookie class:

    George Brett
    Robin Yount
    Jim Rice
    Gary Carter
    Keith Hernandez
    Fred Lynn
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    miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I was mulling over this in some scanning pattern, and it seemed to me that 1987 has one the best rookie crops that I can recall. This is the list:

    Mark McGwire
    Barry Bonds
    Will Clark
    Barry Larkin
    Greg Maddux
    Ruben Sierra
    Pete Incagvilia
    Bo Jackson
    Rafael Palmeiro
    Kevin Mitchell
    Cory Snyder
    John Kruk
    Mike Greenfield
    Devon White
    BJ Surhoff

    ok maybe some of these guys did not pan out the way we had hopes. But its an impressive rookie class. Is there a better one? >>



    Yes there is, but not from baseball. Best rookie crop is 1990 hockey. It is hands down far and away the best rookie card class for one year from one sport as far as total talent goes and highest percentage of HOF. (Some may argue that the 1951 Parkhurst set was bigger w/ RC's but that is a little awkward since the lack of hockey card production in the 1940's meant RC's were all grouped into one set instead of distributed over a number of years, so honorable mention to that set as well I suppose). Unfortunately it is also the most mass-produced and therefore doesn't carry much value.

    To name a few:

    Martin Brodeur
    Curtis Joseph
    Mike Richter
    Mark Recchi
    Jaromir Jagr
    Sergei Fedorov
    Pavel Bure
    Rod Brind'Amour
    Kris Draper
    Eric Lindros
    Rob Blake
    Mike Modano
    Keith Primeau
    Owen Nolan
    Peter Nedved
    Mats Sundin
    Kevin Stevens
    Alexander Mogilny
    Scott Niedermeyer
    Vladimir Konstantinov
    Slava Fetisov (sort of a cheater RC since he had several Euro issues before his NHL debut)
    Sergei Makarov (sort of a cheater RC since he had several Euro issues before his NHL debut)
    Ed Belfour
    Jeremy Roenick
    Felix Potvin
    Peter Bondra
    Arturs Irbe
    Mike Ricci
    Darren Turcotte
    Darrien Hatcher
    Tie Domi


    *Edited to add qualifier to Fetisov and Makarov
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    1989

    Griffey Jr
    Randy Johnson
    Craig Biggo
    John Smoltz
    Omar Vizquel
    Sheffield
    Sandy Alomar Jr
    Tom Gordon
    Deion Sanders

    1st 5 are all going to be HOFers! only 2 from 87 but those 87 rookies were sure fun to watch!

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    itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    although technically not all inclusive of players from actual rookie years, '86-'87 Fleer Basketball is loaded. now you have an even larger cross-section of professional athletes from that year. throw in a few footballers & hockey players and it was an impressive run.
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    miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>1989

    Griffey Jr
    Randy Johnson
    Craig Biggo
    John Smoltz
    Omar Vizquel
    Sheffield
    Sandy Alomar Jr
    Tom Gordon
    Deion Sanders

    1st 5 are all going to be HOFers! only 2 from 87 but those 87 rookies were sure fun to watch! >>



    May as well add Curt Schilling to your 1989 list. Honorable mention to Billy FF Ripken.

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    DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,220 ✭✭
    Fun thread. Here are some other years where there were some pretty good rookies. (Yes, I had to look them up.)

    1946
    Ewell Blackwell, rhp, Reds - 82-78, 3.30 in 10 seasons

    Del Ennis, of, Phillies - .284-288-1,284 in 14 seasons

    Ralph Kiner, of, Pirates - .279-369-1,015 in 10 seasons

    Bob Lemon, rhp, Indians - 207-128, 3.23 in 13 seasons

    Warren Spahn, lhp, Braves - 363-245, 3.09 in 21 seasons


    1947
    Yogi Berra, c, Yankees - .285-358-1,430 in 19 seasons

    Jackie Robinson, 1b, Dodgers - .311-137-734 in 10 seasons

    Vic Wertz, of, Tigers - .277-266-1,178 in 17 seasons


    1948
    Richie Ashburn, of, Phillies - .308-29-586 in 15 seasons

    Roy Campanella, c, Dodgers - .276-242-856 in 10 seasons

    Larry Doby, of, Indians - .283-253-970 in 13 seasons

    Gil Hodges, 1b, Dodgers - .273-370-1,274 in 18 seasons

    Robin Roberts, rhp, Phillies - 286-245, 3.41 in 19 seasons


    1982
    Wade Boggs, 3b, Red Sox - .328-118-1,014 in 18 seasons

    Chili Davis, of, Giants - .274-350-1,372 in 19 seasons

    Kent Hrbek, 1b, Twins - .282-293-1,086 in 14 seasons

    Cal Ripken, ss, Orioles - .276-431-1,695 in 21 seasons

    Ryne Sandberg, 2b, Cubs - .285-282-1,061 in 16 seasons

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    miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Fun thread. Here are some other years where there were some pretty good rookies. (Yes, I had to look them up.)

    1946
    Ewell Blackwell, rhp, Reds - 82-78, 3.30 in 10 seasons

    Del Ennis, of, Phillies - .284-288-1,284 in 14 seasons

    Ralph Kiner, of, Pirates - .279-369-1,015 in 10 seasons

    Bob Lemon, rhp, Indians - 207-128, 3.23 in 13 seasons

    Warren Spahn, lhp, Braves - 363-245, 3.09 in 21 seasons


    1947
    Yogi Berra, c, Yankees - .285-358-1,430 in 19 seasons

    Jackie Robinson, 1b, Dodgers - .311-137-734 in 10 seasons

    Vic Wertz, of, Tigers - .277-266-1,178 in 17 seasons


    1948
    Richie Ashburn, of, Phillies - .308-29-586 in 15 seasons

    Roy Campanella, c, Dodgers - .276-242-856 in 10 seasons

    Larry Doby, of, Indians - .283-253-970 in 13 seasons

    Gil Hodges, 1b, Dodgers - .273-370-1,274 in 18 seasons

    Robin Roberts, rhp, Phillies - 286-245, 3.41 in 19 seasons


    1982
    Wade Boggs, 3b, Red Sox - .328-118-1,014 in 18 seasons

    Chili Davis, of, Giants - .274-350-1,372 in 19 seasons

    Kent Hrbek, 1b, Twins - .282-293-1,086 in 14 seasons

    Cal Ripken, ss, Orioles - .276-431-1,695 in 21 seasons

    Ryne Sandberg, 2b, Cubs - .285-282-1,061 in 16 seasons >>



    Not sure about the 1982 list here. I guess the question is, was the original intent in the OP to talk best group of rookies from a release year of cards, or from a single year in which it was the first year the players made the pros? That would be where we get Boggs & Sandberg in the same year vs. different year compared to Davis, Hrbek & Ripken.
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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭
    Gotta cast my vote for the 1989 NFL class. The first 5 picks of the draft are comprised of 4 HOF players.

    1. Troy Aikman
    3. Barry Sanders
    4. Derrick Thomas
    5. Deion Sanders

    Also in that year:

    Steve At-water
    Andre Rison
    Eric Metcalf
    Daryl Johnston
    Pete Stoyanovich
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    miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Gotta cast my vote for the 1989 NFL class. The first 5 picks of the draft are comprised of 4 HOF players.

    1. Troy Aikman
    3. Barry Sanders
    4. Derrick Thomas
    5. Deion Sanders

    Also in that year:

    Steve At-water
    Andre Rison
    Eric Metcalf
    Daryl Johnston
    Pete Stoyanovich >>



    Even if they're not HOF, some other good football pulls from packs I remember being happy to get during 1989 were Thurman Thomas, Mark Rypien, Chris Miller, and Rodney Peete.

    My vote is definitely still unwaveringly for 1990 hockey though image

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    I've always been partial to '89 baseball (and you're right, Schilling needs to be incl) but after looking at the '75 list that's where my vote goes.

    Edited to add: who the hell is Mike Greenfield??
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    JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,212 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1955 had three BIG rookies Killebrew, Koufax and Clemente along with Camilo Pasqual, Sandy Amoras, Don Zimmer, Ken Boyer, Dale Long, and Chuck Tanner
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    vintagefunvintagefun Posts: 1,975 ✭✭✭
    Didn't 89FB also have Tim Brown and Michael Irvin?
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    Joe, that big 3 plus Boyer is quite a list!
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    cardcountrycardcountry Posts: 569 ✭✭✭
    Cool thread. The 1951 and 1954 crops were also really good:

    1951: Mantle, Mays, Ford, Fox, Irvin, Erskine, Garagiola, Jensen
    1954: Aaron, Banks, Kaline, Lasorda, Kuenn, Skowron

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    << <i>

    Edited to add: who the hell is Mike Greenfield?? >>



    The Gator, Mike GreenWELL!
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    jordangretzkyfanjordangretzkyfan Posts: 2,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My voting order for all-time rookie card sets would be:

    #1 - 86/87 Fleer Basketball: Jordan, Barkley, Malone, Olajuwon, Ewing, Wilkins, Drexler, Isiah, Worthy, Mullin, Dumars
    #2 - 1989 Score Football: Barry, Aikman, Deion, Derrick Thomas, Thurman Thomas, Rod Woodson, Michael Irvin, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Bruce Matthews
    #3 - 61/62 Fleer Basketball: Chaimberlain, Robertson, West, Baylor, Wilkens, Jones
    #4 - 1989 Donruss: Griffey, Johnson, Biggio, Smoltz, Schilling, Sheffield
    #5 - 1975 Topps: Brett, Yount, Carter, Rice, Hernandez

    Honorable Mentions: 1951 Parkhurst, 05/06 The Cup, 1987 Donruss, 2003 Exquisite Basketball, 1951 Bowman, 1954 Topps

    Some of these clearly have the advantage of no other sets produced years prior. Either way, they still reign supreme on a loaded RC crop!! Great thread topic.
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    ReggieClevelandReggieCleveland Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I was mulling over this in some scanning pattern, and it seemed to me that 1987 has one the best rookie crops that I can recall. This is the list:

    Mark McGwire
    Barry Bonds
    Will Clark
    Barry Larkin
    Greg Maddux
    Ruben Sierra
    Pete Incagvilia
    Bo Jackson
    Rafael Palmeiro
    Kevin Mitchell
    Cory Snyder
    John Kruk
    Mike Greenfield
    Devon White
    BJ Surhoff

    ok maybe some of these guys did not pan out the way we had hopes. But its an impressive rookie class. Is there a better one? >>



    Yes there is, but not from baseball. Best rookie crop is 1990 hockey. It is hands down far and away the best rookie card class for one year from one sport as far as total talent goes and highest percentage of HOF. (Some may argue that the 1951 Parkhurst set was bigger w/ RC's but that is a little awkward since the lack of hockey card production in the 1940's meant RC's were all grouped into one set instead of distributed over a number of years, so honorable mention to that set as well I suppose). Unfortunately it is also the most mass-produced and therefore doesn't carry much value.

    To name a few:

    Martin Brodeur
    Curtis Joseph
    Mike Richter
    Mark Recchi
    Jaromir Jagr
    Sergei Fedorov
    Pavel Bure
    Rod Brind'Amour
    Kris Draper
    Eric Lindros
    Rob Blake
    Mike Modano
    Keith Primeau
    Owen Nolan
    Peter Nedved
    Mats Sundin
    Kevin Stevens
    Alexander Mogilny
    Scott Niedermeyer
    Vladimir Konstantinov
    Slava Fetisov (sort of a cheater RC since he had several Euro issues before his NHL debut)
    Sergei Makarov (sort of a cheater RC since he had several Euro issues before his NHL debut)
    Ed Belfour
    Jeremy Roenick
    Felix Potvin
    Peter Bondra
    Arturs Irbe
    Mike Ricci
    Darren Turcotte
    Darrien Hatcher
    Tie Domi


    *Edited to add qualifier to Fetisov and Makarov >>



    I just had some serious Sega Genesis flashbacks.
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    1984 topps maybe

    Elway, Marino, Warner, Dickerson, Long, Stephenson, Tippett, Slater, Jackson, Green, Grimm

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    << <i>1984 topps maybe

    Elway, Marino, Warner, Dickerson, Long, Stephenson, Tippett, Slater, Jackson, Green, Grimm >>



    Plus UsFL Kelly, Young, White

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    bziddybziddy Posts: 710 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I just had some serious Sega Genesis flashbacks. >>



    Which gave me this flashback:



    << <i>Breakfast, shmreakfast. Look at the score, for Christ's sake. It's only the second period and I'm up 12 to 2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, "the Whale," they only beat Vancouver once, maybe twice in a lifetime. >>

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    stevebaystevebay Posts: 289 ✭✭✭
    I posted this about a year ago, but based purely on stats, the best Team Set (focusing on the 3 rookies in that set) is the 1987 Donruss Chicago Cubs

    624 Wins and 569 HR's
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    << <i>

    Not sure about the 1982 list here. I guess the question is, was the original intent in the OP to talk best group of rookies from a release year of cards, or from a single year in which it was the first year the players made the pros? That would be where we get Boggs & Sandberg in the same year vs. different year compared to Davis, Hrbek & Ripken. >>



    I thought about this as I was writing. Technically Barry Bonds and Will Clark rookies were in 1986. Even Barry Larkin was 1986.

    As cards, they all have their first cards in 1986 which would then include Jose Canseco, but I think of his more as 1986 because his rookie card was in the basic set, not in the traded.

    So I guess there is a bit of a grey area, depending on how you look at it.
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    miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I just had some serious Sega Genesis flashbacks. >>



    Which gave me this flashback:



    << <i>Breakfast, shmreakfast. Look at the score, for Christ's sake. It's only the second period and I'm up 12 to 2. Breakfasts come and go, Rene, but Hartford, "the Whale," they only beat Vancouver once, maybe twice in a lifetime. >>

    >>



    Gotta love Mallrats & Kevin Smith!

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    << <i>My voting order for all-time rookie card sets would be:

    #1 - 86/87 Fleer Basketball: Jordan, Barkley, Malone, Olajuwon, Ewing, Wilkins, Drexler, Isiah, Worthy, Mullin, Dumars
    #2 - 1989 Score Football: Barry, Aikman, Deion, Derrick Thomas, Thurman Thomas, Rod Woodson, Michael Irvin, Cris Carter, Tim Brown, Bruce Matthews
    #3 - 61/62 Fleer Basketball: Chaimberlain, Robertson, West, Baylor, Wilkens, Jones
    #4 - 1989 Donruss: Griffey, Johnson, Biggio, Smoltz, Schilling, Sheffield
    #5 - 1975 Topps: Brett, Yount, Carter, Rice, Hernandez

    Honorable Mentions: 1951 Parkhurst, 05/06 The Cup, 1987 Donruss, 2003 Exquisite Basketball, 1951 Bowman, 1954 Topps

    Some of these clearly have the advantage of no other sets produced years prior. Either way, they still reign supreme on a loaded RC crop!! Great thread topic. >>



    If we're talking sets rather than draft classes, you have to put 1948 Leaf football in the mix:

    Sid Luckman (HOF)
    Doak Walker (HOF)
    Bobby Layne (HOF)
    George McAfee (HOF)
    Steve Van Buren (HOF)
    Bob Waterfield (HOF)
    Charley Trippi (HOF)
    Sammy Baugh (HOF)
    Bill Dudley (HOF)
    George Connor (HOF)
    Leo Nomellini (HOF)
    Chuck Bednarik (HOF)
    Pete Pihos (HOF)
    Clyde Turner (HOF)
    Jackie Jensen (Baseball)
    Johnny Lujack
    Charlie Justice
    Charley Connerly

    Much like with 1951 Parkhurst, the 1948 Leaf (and Bowman) set was loaded with rookie cards given there had not been a nationally distributed football set since National Chicle 13 years earlier.

    1984 Topps (including USFL) have 13 HOF RCs combined, 1952 Bowman football is no slouch with 11 HOF RC, and 1989 Score boasts 10 if you include the Supplemental set.

    Snorto~




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    JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,212 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Joe, that big 3 plus Boyer is quite a list! >>



    Three STUDS for sure!

    Take a look at Pasqual's stats, he had a nice run. I think he led the league three years in a row in strikeouts. From 1959-64 he was damn good!!

    Couple of pretty good managers there as well!

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    lawnmowermanlawnmowerman Posts: 19,477 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Didn't 89FB also have Tim Brown and Michael Irvin? >>



    Yes it did but both of those players were drafted in 1988.
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    << <i>1984 topps maybe

    Elway, Marino, Warner, Dickerson, Long, Stephenson, Tippett, Slater, Jackson, Green, Grimm >>



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    1983 NFL Draft Hofers:
    John Elway
    Eric Dickerson
    Bruce Matthews
    Jim Kelly
    Dan Marino
    Darrell Green
    Richard Dent

    Other Notable but not HOF players:
    Roger Craig
    Curt Warner
    Henry Ellard
    Willie Gault
    Dave Duerson
    Jim Covert
    Ken O'Brien
    Mark Clayton

    Pretty decent crop there.


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    EchoCanyonEchoCanyon Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1989

    Griffey Jr
    Randy Johnson
    Craig Biggo
    John Smoltz
    Omar Vizquel
    Sheffield
    Sandy Alomar Jr
    Tom Gordon
    Deion Sanders

    1st 5 are all going to be HOFers! only 2 from 87 but those 87 rookies were sure fun to watch! >>




    You forgot Gregg Jeffries
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    I've always been partial to '89 baseball (and you're right, Schilling needs to be incl) but after looking at the '75 list that's where my vote goes.

    Edited to add: who the hell is Mike Greenfield??

    Think he meant Mike Greenwell


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    Not to make a case for it, but coincidently I just broke a 90 Topps rack case...it was an interesting blast from the past:

    Frank Thomas
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    Larry Walker
    Juan Gonzalez
    Joey Belle
    Bernie Williams
    Deion Sanders
    Delino Deshields
    Marquis Grissom
    Ben McDonald
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    << <i>I've always been partial to '89 baseball (and you're right, Schilling needs to be incl) but after looking at the '75 list that's where my vote goes.

    Edited to add: who the hell is Mike Greenfield??

    Think he meant Mike Greenwell >>



    haha yeah....Greenwell. Its been a while since I committed his name in writing.

    If we are talking sets...I would perhaps give the edge to 1987 Donruss:

    Greg Maddux
    Mark McGwire
    Ruben Sierra
    Barry Larkin
    Barry Bonds
    Will Clark
    Bo Jackson
    Randy Myers
    Wally Joyner
    John Kruk
    Devon White
    Cory Snyder
    Kevin Brown (am I reaching?)
    David Cone
    Raphael Palmeiro
    Mike Greenwell
    Matt Williams
    Dave Magadan
    B. J. Surfhoff
    Bobby Witt
    Pete Incavigllia
    Greg Swindell
    Chuck Finley

    Now most of these are in Topps and Fleer as well. But the real glaring omission in both those sets if Greg Maddux.

    Some players are somewhat biased as I was around when they were on the cusp to greatness.....
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    miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>1989

    Griffey Jr
    Randy Johnson
    Craig Biggo
    John Smoltz
    Omar Vizquel
    Sheffield
    Sandy Alomar Jr
    Tom Gordon
    Deion Sanders

    1st 5 are all going to be HOFers! only 2 from 87 but those 87 rookies were sure fun to watch! >>




    You forgot Gregg Jeffries >>



    The Jeffries RC's were 1988 (Topps was a year late to the game on that one).
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    LarkinCollectorLarkinCollector Posts: 8,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Perhaps this should be a different thread, but are there any worse than 86 Topps BB (as I bust my first of 10 vending boxes) and not including Traded of that year?

    Darren Daulton
    Len Dykstra
    Cecil Fielder
    Mickey Tettleton
    ?
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    << <i>Perhaps this should be a different thread, but are there any worse than 86 Topps BB (as I bust my first of 10 vending boxes) and not including Traded of that year?

    Darren Daulton
    Len Dykstra
    Cecil Fielder
    Mickey Tettleton
    ? >>



    If you want to include Vince Coleman who's previous rookie was in the 1985 Topps traded (one of the worst traded sets in that era).
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    With Mariano Duncan...................terrible set!!
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    TabeTabe Posts: 5,927 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That 1990 hockey list is ridiculous. I'd forgotten how good that class was. I'm sure Kris Draper would be flattered to be included on any list that includes dudes like Brodeur, Fedorov, Jagr, JR, Lindros, et al.
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    Cokin75Cokin75 Posts: 243 ✭✭
    How about '65 Topps baseball?

    HOFs

    Tony Perez
    Jim Hunter
    Joe Morgan
    Steve Carlton

    Others that come to mind:

    Blue Moon Odom
    Paul Blair
    Davey Johnson
    Cleon Jones
    Tommy Agee
    Tug McGraw
    Denny McLain
    Jim Northrup
    Rico Petrocelli
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    eagles33eagles33 Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭
    I know football better than baseball.. So I can throw a few suggestions from the 80s

    1984 football
    Marino
    Elway
    Long
    Dickerson
    Green
    Jackson
    Grimm
    Kelly USfl
    Young USfl
    Walker USfl
    White USfl

    1989
    Troy Aikman
    Derrick Thomas
    Thurman Thomas
    Barry sanders
    Dion Sanders
    Rod Woodson
    Michael Irvin
    Chris Carter
    Tim brown
    Eric Allen
    Sterling sharpe
    Dirmontti Dawson
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    << <i>

    << <i>I was mulling over this in some scanning pattern, and it seemed to me that 1987 has one the best rookie crops that I can recall. This is the list:

    Mark McGwire
    Barry Bonds
    Will Clark
    Barry Larkin
    Greg Maddux
    Ruben Sierra
    Pete Incagvilia
    Bo Jackson
    Rafael Palmeiro
    Kevin Mitchell
    Cory Snyder
    John Kruk
    Mike Greenfield
    Devon White
    BJ Surhoff

    ok maybe some of these guys did not pan out the way we had hopes. But its an impressive rookie class. Is there a better one? >>



    Yes there is, but not from baseball. Best rookie crop is 1990 hockey. It is hands down far and away the best rookie card class for one year from one sport as far as total talent goes and highest percentage of HOF. (Some may argue that the 1951 Parkhurst set was bigger w/ RC's but that is a little awkward since the lack of hockey card production in the 1940's meant RC's were all grouped into one set instead of distributed over a number of years, so honorable mention to that set as well I suppose). Unfortunately it is also the most mass-produced and therefore doesn't carry much value.

    To name a few:

    Martin Brodeur
    Curtis Joseph
    Mike Richter
    Mark Recchi
    Jaromir Jagr
    Sergei Fedorov
    Pavel Bure
    Rod Brind'Amour
    Kris Draper
    Eric Lindros
    Rob Blake
    Mike Modano
    Keith Primeau
    Owen Nolan
    Peter Nedved
    Mats Sundin
    Kevin Stevens
    Alexander Mogilny
    Scott Niedermeyer
    Vladimir Konstantinov
    Slava Fetisov (sort of a cheater RC since he had several Euro issues before his NHL debut)
    Sergei Makarov (sort of a cheater RC since he had several Euro issues before his NHL debut)
    Ed Belfour
    Jeremy Roenick
    Felix Potvin
    Peter Bondra
    Arturs Irbe
    Mike Ricci
    Darren Turcotte
    Darrien Hatcher
    Tie Domi


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    Wish they were all in the OPC Premier or Upper Deck set. Amazing rookie class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    jmmiller777jmmiller777 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    So, going with the original question, it will be hard to beat that 87 list, almost a complete team for each position too! With history to reflect on, I'll take that 87 team.
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    MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭
    Surprised nobody mentioned 96-97 basketball;
    Kobe Bryant
    Allen iverson
    Steve Nash
    Ray Allen
    Jermaine oneil
    Stephon marbury
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    Canseco was 86 traded not regular
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    miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭


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    Yes there is, but not from baseball. Best rookie crop is 1990 hockey. It is hands down far and away the best rookie card class for one year from one sport as far as total talent goes and highest percentage of HOF. (Some may argue that the 1951 Parkhurst set was bigger w/ RC's but that is a little awkward since the lack of hockey card production in the 1940's meant RC's were all grouped into one set instead of distributed over a number of years, so honorable mention to that set as well I suppose). Unfortunately it is also the most mass-produced and therefore doesn't carry much value.

    To name a few:

    Martin Brodeur
    Curtis Joseph
    Mike Richter
    Mark Recchi
    Jaromir Jagr
    Sergei Fedorov
    Pavel Bure
    Rod Brind'Amour
    Kris Draper
    Eric Lindros
    Rob Blake
    Mike Modano
    Keith Primeau
    Owen Nolan
    Peter Nedved
    Mats Sundin
    Kevin Stevens
    Alexander Mogilny
    Scott Niedermeyer
    Vladimir Konstantinov
    Slava Fetisov (sort of a cheater RC since he had several Euro issues before his NHL debut)
    Sergei Makarov (sort of a cheater RC since he had several Euro issues before his NHL debut)
    Ed Belfour
    Jeremy Roenick
    Felix Potvin
    Peter Bondra
    Arturs Irbe
    Mike Ricci
    Darren Turcotte
    Darrien Hatcher
    Tie Domi


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    Wish they were all in the OPC Premier or Upper Deck set. Amazing rookie class!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>



    I agree. UD comes the closest of all the 1990 sets, only missing Brodeur, Konstantinov, Irbe, & Domi. However, the Lindros is not quite the same, being a group card w/ "Canada's Captains" instead of just him alone like w/ Score.



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    1972 Topps Football is King for me.

    Roger Staubach
    John Riggins
    Jim Plunkett
    Gene Upshaw
    Rayfield Wright
    Ted Hendricks
    Steve Spurrier
    Arching Manning
    Larry Little
    Phil Vilapiano
    John Brockington
    John Niland
    Lyle Alzado
    George Atkinson
    Dan Pastorini
    Mel Gray
    Harold Jackson
    Ron Yary
    Willie Ellison
    Emmitt Thomas
    Randy Vataha
    Im sure i missed a few
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    dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,584 ✭✭✭✭
    While the 87 baseball rookies had the most hype that I've ever seen, it appears to me that the 89 baseball rookies ended up outperforming and is probably the best rookie crop.

    I also agree with another poster that 86 is the worst, especially Topps which didn't include Fielder. It's a nice set, but absolutely no rookies.
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    creecree Posts: 393 ✭✭
    For the 1989 Rookie group I feel that everyone overlooked Steve Avery. I think this is an awesome looking Rookie card.

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    miwlvrnmiwlvrn Posts: 4,226 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>While the 87 baseball rookies had the most hype that I've ever seen, it appears to me that the 89 baseball rookies ended up outperforming and is probably the best rookie crop.

    I also agree with another poster that 86 is the worst, especially Topps which didn't include Fielder. It's a nice set, but absolutely no rookies. >>



    Um, not sure what you mean there about Fielder. Not my card, but I do believe this was from Topps (and not update either since the updates aren't really in the same discussion):


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    CNoteCNote Posts: 2,070
    Didn't that Fleer basketball set everyone was talking about this weekend have a couple rookies?
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