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1933 Foxx.... PSA rules question

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1933 Uncle Jack's Candy Jimmy Foxx. The holes are a real bummer of course, but it cost me only $5 at a yard sale. What are the chances of getting this slabbed as a PSA 1? Will they not grade it because of the holes?

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  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    I have no personal experience with a card in that shape, but my guess is they will NOT give it a grade. Slabbed as AUTHENTIC only.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • SouthsiderSouthsider Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭
    You can get a PSA 1 with a pin hole or two. With a couple of hole punches, you're looking at an Authentic grade only.
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭
    Thanks guys. Those holes really suck, but hey, it was 5 bucks!
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Dan ... after doing a little research on the card, i wonder if it is a reprint? If you look the set up on this site, PSA describes the set as not only having a blank back, but states that the front of the card depicts the player with a BLUE HUE background. You may want to verify this before spending money on grading. GOOD LUCK.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dan ... after doing a little research on the card, i wonder if it is a reprint? If you look the set up on this site, PSA describes the set as not only having a blank back, but states that the front of the card depicts the player with a BLUE HUE background. You may want to verify this before spending money on grading. GOOD LUCK. >>



    My research (Beckett and SCD) said that there were 2 series: 1 blue, ! red. i don't know if it was an AL/NL thing. Can others please chime in on this please?
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dan ... after doing a little research on the card, i wonder if it is a reprint? If you look the set up on this site, PSA describes the set as not only having a blank back, but states that the front of the card depicts the player with a BLUE HUE background. You may want to verify this before spending money on grading. GOOD LUCK. >>



    Found this Legendary Auction for Uncle Jack cards that included a SGC authenticated red Foxx
    http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx
    inventoryid=110188&searchby=0&searchvalue=None&page=0&sortby=3&displayby=2&lotsperpage=100&category=1&seo=1933-Uncle-Jacks-Candy-SGC-Graded-Collection-(10-Different)-Including-Foxx%2C-Hornsby-and-Ruth---Plus-

    And I don't know if Net54 is a reliable source, but this thread shows a blue Foxx and says the cards came in red and green too
    http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1160912507/1161004664/Uncle+Jacks+Candy
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    Dan ... good to hear. I was in NYC the entire day with my daughter and just got home. (I responded to you before from my phone.)

    I just looked at THE BIBLE (Bob Lemke's Book) and here is what I found:

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    Even more good news ... next to the Babe Ruth card, FOXX is listed as the most expensive.

    SEND IT IN TO GET SLABBED AUTHENTIC!!!!


    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.


  • << <i>

    << <i>Dan ... after doing a little research on the card, i wonder if it is a reprint? If you look the set up on this site, PSA describes the set as not only having a blank back, but states that the front of the card depicts the player with a BLUE HUE background. You may want to verify this before spending money on grading. GOOD LUCK. >>



    Found this Legendary Auction for Uncle Jack cards that included a SGC authenticated red Foxx
    http://www.legendaryauctions.com/LotDetail.aspx
    inventoryid=110188&searchby=0&searchvalue=None&page=0&sortby=3&displayby=2&lotsperpage=100&category=1&seo=1933-Uncle-Jacks-Candy-SGC-Graded-Collection-(10-Different)-Including-Foxx%2C-Hornsby-and-Ruth---Plus-

    And I don't know if Net54 is a reliable source, but this thread shows a blue Foxx and says the cards came in red and green too
    http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/thread/1160912507/1161004664/Uncle+Jacks+Candy >>



    net54 are a bunch of experts in old vintage cards
    I edit almost all my posts because my auto correct is crazy !
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dan ... good to hear. I was in NYC the entire day with my daughter and just got home. (I responded to you before from my phone.)

    I just looked at THE BIBLE (Bob Lemke's Book) and here is what I found:

    image

    Even more good news ... next to the Babe Ruth card, FOXX is listed as the most expensive.

    SEND IT IN TO GET SLABBED AUTHENTIC!!!! >>



    Yeah, Lemke's book was the one a card shop owner used to help me identify the card after I first bought it. I will get it slabbed, but just double checking: the consensus is that it wouldn't get an actual grade, right?
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    My guess is that they will not give it a numerical grade.
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>My guess is that they will not give it a numerical grade. >>



    But still worth having slabbed/authenticated? I'm brand new to this, so trying to understand what's the right course. Beckett "high column" price is around $700. Obviously with the holes it's worth almost nothing. But is it relatively more valuable/sellable once authenticated?
  • robert67robert67 Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭✭
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>My guess is that they will not give it a numerical grade. >>


    But still worth having slabbed/authenticated? I'm brand new to this, so trying to understand what's the right course. Beckett "high column" price is around $700. Obviously with the holes it's worth almost nothing. But is it relatively more valuable/sellable once authenticated? >>



    First of all, I think that number is WAY low ... a 5.5 sold for over four grand back in '09. Lemke's book has over a $4,500.00 number on the card (of course that is in high grade).

    I don't know a lot about the set, but from the little I have researched today, I think it is a rare card. One thing the slab will do is alleviate the fear from MOST people that the card is a reprint.

    If you think it's worth almost nothing, I'll give you FIVE TIMES what you paid for it! image
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>First of all, I think that number is WAY low ... a 5.5 sold for over four grand back in '09. Lemke's book has over a $4,500.00 number on the card (of course that is in high grade).

    I don't know a lot about the set, but from the little I have researched today, I think it is a rare card. One thing the slab will do is alleviate the fear from MOST people that the card is a reprint.

    If you think it's worth almost nothing, I'll give you FIVE TIMES what you paid for it! image >>



    Haha no dice. Yeah, when I first read about the set I got the impression not alot were printed, plus it was a regional New England-only distribution. You've talked me into a slab. Is there a separate process for authentication only vs the grading process I've already done?
  • PiggsPiggs Posts: 1,938 ✭✭✭✭
    I believe you just follow the guidelines you've followed before when sending a card in for grading. Doug
  • DboneesqDboneesq Posts: 18,219 ✭✭
    I believe on the submission form you can indicate that if it does not get a grade you are OK with them slabbing it as authentic. Just give them a call and they will tell you exactly how to word it. The girls in the customer service dept are GREAT!
    STAY HEALTHY!

    Doug

    Liquidating my collection for the 3rd and final time. Time for others to enjoy what I have enjoyed over the last several decades. Money could be put to better use.
  • DanBessetteDanBessette Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I believe on the submission form you can indicate that if it does not get a grade you are OK with them slabbing it as authentic. Just give them a call and they will tell you exactly how to word it. The girls in the customer service dept are GREAT! >>



    Yeah I'll have to call. I looked through my paperwork and it looks like it's up to them whether they slab it authentic. But I'll call and ask whether there's a way to indicate that's what I'm shooting for
  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Found this Legendary Auction for Uncle Jack cards that included a SGC authenticated red Foxx
    >>





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  • It is possible to get a number grade with punch holes.

    I have a '33 Goudey Ruth with two holes. It graded a PR1. Otherwise its a vg/good card.

    Jason
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