77 Topps submission help are these 10's - Pics

76collector

Guys,

I have a couple hundred or so pack fresh 77's that I'm going through and preparing to sub. Does anyone know if PSA grades top to bottom centering starting from the black line border on the bottom, or from the bottom of the image/picture ? It seems as though when measured from the bottom of the picture the image looks more centered. Here is an example of a couple of cards.



The Oglivie seems to be the more centered example to me, from top to bottom, but if I measure from the black line border around the picture, then the Halicki is actually closer to being centered.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Jeff

grote15

Hi Jeff,

The Oglivie is centered a bit low. Halicki is centered better--you want to see a wider strip of white on bottom edge for grading, though in this example, Halicki is actually centered a smidge high. So you've basically posted an example of a card centered a bit low and a card centered a smidge high~all you need now is the one centered just right, LOL..

Oglivie, however, is centered better L/R than Halicki..

Edit to add: Here's a PSA 10 I submitted a few months ago for reference:

cpamike

<< <i>Hi Jeff,

The Oglivie is centered a bit low. Halicki is centered better--you want to see a wider strip of white on bottom edge for grading, though in this example, Halicki is actually centered a smidge high. So you've basically posted an example of a card centered a bit low and a card centered a bit high~all you need now is the one centered just right, LOL... >>



What is this, Goldilocks and the three bears?!?

grote15

<< <i>

<< <i>Hi Jeff,

The Oglivie is centered a bit low. Halicki is centered better--you want to see a wider strip of white on bottom edge for grading, though in this example, Halicki is actually centered a smidge high. So you've basically posted an example of a card centered a bit low and a card centered a bit high~all you need now is the one centered just right, LOL... >>



What is this, Goldilocks and the three bears?!? >>



LOL!! SteveK used to call me Aesop when I'd use my "fox and grapes" analogy.

cpamike

In all seriousness, that card you added to your post really helps when comparing it to the ones Jeff already posted. Good luck going through the rest of those cards Jeff.

76collector

Thanks guy's. Yeah, I am pretty excited about these cards. A LOT of them are like the Oglivie, with not quite enough white on the bottom, but I probably have around 80-100 with sharp corners and should be solid centering. It's just a matter of picking the right ones !

Here are a few more that have some more of the white on the bottom.

grote15

Those three cards are VERY nice, Jeff! Sutter is tough in PSA 9. Did you pull these yourself from packs?

Dboneesq

<< <i>Those three cards are VERY nice, Jeff! Sutter is tough in PSA 9. Did you pull these yourself from packs? >>


Tim ... get to bed ... you too Mike!

76collector

I remember for sure pullling the Morgan. I had a pile of them from packs I opened over the last 3 years (mostly wax from bbce), and I bought a modest collection off a work colleague, and I had an old set of my own. I've been going through them and piecing together the best set I can make, and best cards to sub. I actually never realized I had so many really nice ones. I was surprised when I started going through them. I have the same amount of 81's that I need to go through, but I'm pretty sure they are not quite as nice. I think the Sutter should have a legit shot at 9, but the back centering is not good enough for a 10, but the rest of the card is really solid, IMO. I will try to post some more scans, once I get through the rest of the cards, and let you guys know how many I think are worth subbing.

Stingray

Those are nice looking, I still remember opening 77 Topps trying to get a Fidrych card.

fiveniner

nice cards irregardless of centering.

mattinglymint23

i'm looking to upgrade a NM-MT raw set - let me know what you are left with if interested in moving 'em. thanks.

cpamike

<< <i>nice cards irregardless of centering. >>



Tony has it right...at the end of the day, this is what it is all about. I'd love to have cards like that in my raw set.

76collector

Guys,

Thanks for your help so far. I was able to go through the rest of the cards tonight. I have to admit the more I went through them the more excited I got. 77 isn't the year I really collect (hence my username) so I never really knew how nice a lot of the 77's I had was. I apologize in advance for all the scans, but I want to show you how picky I've been with which one's to sub, and hope to get some advice on if any should be eliminated right off the top. I decided there are 30 that I want to sub. Four are HOFers and as long as they come back an 8 or higher I would be happy. The other 26, I'm shooting for 10's. I know they won't all come back 10's but that is the goal.

Here is the stack that I pulled that looked centered enough on 1st sight, minus the 30 I'm sending in and the honorable mention ones. I believe there is 80 or so in this stack, and 80 more that were better than these IMO.



Some of the cards that didn't make the cut - most are off just a bit top to bottom on centering, like the Oglivie above.




On to the honorable mention: Some had print dots, or not quite good enough centering on the backs.





And now here are some of the ones I plan to sub. let me know if any jump off the screen as "That has no shot at a 10"






I will post pictures of the rest later if anyone is interested in seeing them. Thanks in advance for your opinion, I appreciate it.

76collector

I may have found the twin of your card Tim !

grote15

<< <i>I may have found the twin of your card Tim !

>>



LOL, you may have, though I believe the chipping along bottom edge will likely limit grade to a Mint 9. You definitely do have soem solid mint cards in these scans, though. Any low pops?

Ilovecards

hard to tell without them being scanned

76collector

Yeah, I was a little worried about the chipping on a few of them. There are lots of low pops, which is partly why I picked some of them. A few are long shots, but I think worth it, as I think I have a good shot of hitting a few at least. 23 - have pops of less that 10, twelve have pops less than 5 and two are pop 1's. If I can hit one or two and get a 9 on the Sutter, it should pay for the sub.