BBCE's Latest Pickups- 1986/87 Fleer Basketball and 79/80 Topps Hockey
maddux69
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When you read stories like this, you become jealous of Reed's job. Care to venture a guess at pricing for these?
"1979/80 Topps Hockey Vending Boxes"
"the seller had not one, but two 1986/87 Fleer Basketball Wax Boxes"
"In fact, one box, the first pack in the bottom right stack, has a Jordan rookie showing!"
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"1979/80 Topps Hockey Vending Boxes"
"the seller had not one, but two 1986/87 Fleer Basketball Wax Boxes"
"In fact, one box, the first pack in the bottom right stack, has a Jordan rookie showing!"
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But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
I think they sold similar 86 Fleer boxes at the National last year for $20k or so.
A few years back I bought several 1979 Topps hockey vending boxes in the $900-1000 range. If I had to bet I would
say $1500-$1750 now. I think I pulled several PSA 7 Gretzky rookies (and lower grade due to centering) from the boxes
I opened. Not sure I would be a buyer at the range I think they will be priced (if they even make it onto the web site)
at since the rip value of a box is so low. I would be much more interested in an unopened box of 79 Topps hockey
packs but they have not had one of those in a while and unless they priced it at a crazy level probably wouldn't last an
hour on their site.
Robb
Hopefully he can find some of those 40 year old boxes soon.
I'm not following the logic that running an auction is not an acceptable business practice. What is the reasoning behind your rhetorical question?
<< <i>I love reading about Reed's trips but got really excited when he stated that there was unopened material from the last 30 years in one of his purchases. But then I realized 30 years ago was only 1984
Hopefully he can find some of those 40 year old boxes soon.
that doesnt make any sense - i was 10 years old in '84 hunting for mattingly rookies - but i'm only 30 now... are you sure your math is right?
<< <i>Uh, because he runs a business?
I'm not following the logic that running an auction is not an acceptable business practice. What is the reasoning behind your rhetorical question? >>
Particularly since, when items sell within 10 minutes of being listed, they are clearly being sold for less than they would bring at auction.
<< <i>Particularly since, when items sell within 10 minutes of being listed, they are clearly being sold for less than they would bring at auction. >>
This.
There's some serious value being left on the table right now, and that's hard to fathom considering the current state of unopened. I'm doing myself no favors by advocating this, because I'd be the guy who initially pounced on the fumble but ultimately walked away from the pile with nothing but a broken arm. But honestly, I'd almost risk being priced out just to witness the grotesque displays of savagery that would ensue.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep."
"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans."
Collecting:
Any unopened Baseball cello and rack packs and boxes from the 1970's and early 1980s.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
<< <i>Actually, at the risk of sounding contrarian, I think that for many items the realized prices in an auction format would be lower than the sale prices on the site. Of course, there will be certain exceptions for more unique items, but imho the prices on the bbce site are priced strong enough in correlation to market value but attractively enough so that product is snapped up by collectors who don't want to miss the train. After all, Steve doesn't want to follow the Fritsch model of a museum warehouse for unopened product. >>
Plus he doesnt take it in the A** with ebay commission fees
Current obsession, all things Topps 1969 - 1972
<< <i>I'm not saying he should be auctioning 1978 wax packs or 1982 wax boxes. But when a 1971 rack is sold in minutes, I have to think there are 20 other people that wanted it. In that case, there's a good chance it might have done better at auction. >>
That may be true but is not guaranteed. And if the auction is run on ebay, his hammer price is less by the FVF.
Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
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<< <i>Actually, at the risk of sounding contrarian, I think that for many items the realized prices in an auction format would be lower than the sale prices on the site. Of course, there will be certain exceptions for more unique items, but imho the prices on the bbce site are priced strong enough in correlation to market value but attractively enough so that product is snapped up by collectors who don't want to miss the train. After all, Steve doesn't want to follow the Fritsch model of a museum warehouse for unopened product. >>
Plus he doesnt take it in the A** with ebay commission fees >>
Great point. The final selling price would have to be on average at least 10% higher if using the EBAY platform and for smaller sellers and lower priced items even higher.
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<< <i>Actually, at the risk of sounding contrarian, I think that for many items the realized prices in an auction format would be lower than the sale prices on the site. Of course, there will be certain exceptions for more unique items, but imho the prices on the bbce site are priced strong enough in correlation to market value but attractively enough so that product is snapped up by collectors who don't want to miss the train. After all, Steve doesn't want to follow the Fritsch model of a museum warehouse for unopened product. >>
Plus he doesnt take it in the A** with ebay commission fees >>
good point. it would also be safe to assume that he knows his customers so well, that there is an expectation of quality product moving quickly with a minimum of effort required to collect the funds.
maybe he doesn't think it's necessary for him to wander into an auctioneering minefield for that.
<< <i>I love reading about Reed's trips but got really excited when he stated that there was unopened material from the last 30 years in one of his purchases. But then I realized 30 years ago was only 1984
Hopefully he can find some of those 40 year old boxes soon.
Scary thought to know that I first collected over 40 years ago!! Ugh!!
From their facebook post:
Having the deepest pockets in the room meant I could push the bidding quickly on any lot I was interested in, and force others to drop out when the price of a lot went over a few hundred dollars. This worked especially well with the vintage lots. Steve now has several thousands of 50s and 60s cards to look over for grading, and I think we're going to do fairly well. If you've never been to a live auction before, it's something you need to experience. Sure if you are willing to bid the most money, you will own it, but there are psychological factors that go into bidding, who you are bidding against, how you bid, and letting the room know who you are. Every time I won a lot, I wanted the other bidders to know I got a deal, and every time I lost a lot, I needed the high bidder to know they paid retail for it.
<< <i>Of course, there will be certain exceptions for more unique items >>
This is what I had in mind as well -- the stuff in rarefied air. Even if Jeff is right and the difference is negligible, juxtapose an auction with a fixed listing that results in a 30-sec shelf life. There would be no comparison from an exposure perspective. If you think the company's acronym is ubiquitous now, just imagine what high-profiled auctions would create. On this very forum alone, triple-digit reply threads would become the rule rather than the exception.
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