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Need help from 1975 Topps Grading Experts (SCAN HEAVY)

Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
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I recently purchased one of the nicest raw '75 Topps sets I've come across. I pulled around 70 commons (w/ a few stars) that looked really sharp to me. However, thanks to my last few submissions I'm losing faith in my own ability to pre-grade cards from the 70s. I can post scans here or I can email links, but i'd love to get some second opinions on these. I'm only interested in subbing cards that have a strong chance of pulling a 9. Let me know if anyone has time or interest in taking a look.

Thanks for your help!
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,698 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PM sent, Jeff..


    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Scan and post away. We'll be happy to give our 2 cents. Make sure you loupe the corners. Any card missing color on a corner under 10x magnification likely won't get a 9.
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  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You have picked one of the hardest, if not the hardest years to get 9's.

    Let's see some scans!
    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • IlovecardsIlovecards Posts: 271 ✭


    << <i>I recently purchased one of the nicest raw '75 Topps sets I've come across. I pulled around 70 commons (w/ a few stars) that looked really sharp to me. However, thanks to my last few submissions I'm losing faith in my own ability to pre-grade cards from the 70s. I can post scans here or I can email links, but i'd love to get some second opinions on these. I'm only interested in subbing cards that have a strong chance of pulling a 9. Let me know if anyone has time or interest in taking a look.

    Thanks for your help! >>



    the one you bought from this board ?
    I edit almost all my posts because my auto correct is crazy !
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Post away!
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Scan and post away. We'll be happy to give our 2 cents. Make sure you loupe the corners. Any card missing color on a corner under 10x magnification likely won't get a 9. >>



    Thanks for the responses guys. This is something I was wondering about. So you basically can't have any color missing on the corners (even if they're sharp) and still pull a 9?
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  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Scan and post away. We'll be happy to give our 2 cents. Make sure you loupe the corners. Any card missing color on a corner under 10x magnification likely won't get a 9. >>



    Thanks for the responses guys. This is something I was wondering about. So you basically can't have any color missing on the corners (even if they're sharp) and still pull a 9? >>




    Impossible to say without scans
  • mattinglymint23mattinglymint23 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭
    PM sent
  • IlovecardsIlovecards Posts: 271 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Scan and post away. We'll be happy to give our 2 cents. Make sure you loupe the corners. Any card missing color on a corner under 10x magnification likely won't get a 9. >>



    Thanks for the responses guys. This is something I was wondering about. So you basically can't have any color missing on the corners (even if they're sharp) and still pull a 9? >>



    you can
    I edit almost all my posts because my auto correct is crazy !
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,102 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Scan and post away. We'll be happy to give our 2 cents. Make sure you loupe the corners. Any card missing color on a corner under 10x magnification likely won't get a 9. >>



    Thanks for the responses guys. This is something I was wondering about. So you basically can't have any color missing on the corners (even if they're sharp) and still pull a 9? >>



    I wouldn't say "can't". "Unlikely" would be a better word. I have seen '75 PSA 9s with a small chip out of the corner, particularly on rough cuts. It's gotta be a really tiny loss of the color though. I think there's a bit more leeway on corners with lighter colors like yellow vs dark colors like red where the chip will stand out more prominently. For perspective, I owned 6 vending fresh 1975 regular issue sets about a decade ago and graded all the star cards. I can count the number of 9s I got on two hands from those 6 sets. These were literally build from vending boxes and sold to me. I sorted the sets from best to worst of each card, kept the best and sold off the 5 other sets. Wish I would have kept sets 2 and 3 though. From that #1 set, I've graded 2/3 of the set and my GPA is only 8.30.
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  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
    Guys - thank you again for your insights here. Hopefully this can be helpful for others looking to submit some 75s, as well. I'm going to go ahead and post the scans here - but this thread is about to get super pic-heavy. There will be (18) 4-card scans total. Sorry for all of the pics - but many requested to see the cards, so here they are.

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  • sixtiessammy64sixtiessammy64 Posts: 28
    Hi Jeff. You have some very nicely centered cards there.

    First step would be to remove any that have fisheyes in them. Then also remove the ones with uneven borders and tilts.

    That should cut down the group some so you can focus on the real contenders.
  • hammeredhammered Posts: 2,671 ✭✭✭
    I think the Fisk and Killebrew have real shots at 9.
    The Kaline and Steve Carlton look closer to 8.
    The Moose, Lagrow, Leon and Thomasson are pretty tough in 9 and they are all nice so I'd send those in.
    As for the rest of the commons, I'd also get rid of those with print dots and less than perfect centering, which would leave you with another 8-10 to send in.
    These are real nice. Who knows PSA Might even throw you a 10
    Good luck
  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,811 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I see a lot of nice 8's and 8.5's and a few 9's. You might get a 10 or two as well.

    Overall a very nice group of cards.
    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • gemintgemint Posts: 6,102 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is there print snow on the Kaline HL?
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  • IlovecardsIlovecards Posts: 271 ✭
    very nice !
    I edit almost all my posts because my auto correct is crazy !
  • Bosox1976Bosox1976 Posts: 8,552 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice cards. I like the following as 9-ish (from top to bottom) :

    horton
    egan
    maddox
    51 mvps
    foster
    cabell
    hassler
    griffey
    dent
    breeden
    rettenmund
    curtis
    kirby
    zamora
    plummer

    The big scans help me when grading too - but 75 white tips are tough for 9's. Has to be perfect otherwise to get away with a white tip.
    Mike
    Bosox1976
  • Big80sBig80s Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭
    Thank you guys for all the feedback! I didn't realize the fisheyes would knock them out of 9 contention. I will definitely narrow down the pile using the suggestions you've made.

    Gemint - the snow on the Kaline HL is a dirty scanner. But it's tough to tell in the picture I posted.
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    Jeff
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,698 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jeff, those are some very sharp cards overall! Strong PSA 9 contender imho are:

    Horton
    Wood
    Hardy
    1951 MVPs
    Cabell
    Cardinals team
    Office
    Griffey
    Batting Leaders Carew/Garr
    Curtis
    Leon
    Cooper
    Thomasson
    White
    Brown
    Garman
    Plummer

    I would definitely send in Killebrew, too--is bottom right corner touched or is that the scan?




    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • Dpeck100Dpeck100 Posts: 10,912 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Nice looking cards. As I was cruising through the scans the Willie Horton stood out immediately. That card looks like a 10 to me.

    Good luck with the grades. I think you will do well on some of these for sure.

  • jmaciujmaciu Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭
    Nice cards! I have my first 1975 regulars at PSA now, so I am not qualified to give an opinion on grades yet.image

    Jmaciu's Collection
  • mattinglymint23mattinglymint23 Posts: 1,261 ✭✭
    just my two cents - but what do i know
    i wouldnt send the tilts - the others would make for and exciting pending sub - i'd check pop report though to make sure upside is worth the gamble on fees -

    Moret - tilt
    Kaline HL - top left corner - 8
    Russel - tilt
    Clyde - centering and fish eye left edge
    Bell - T/B
    Parker - tilt
    Forsch - tilt
    Dierker - tilt
    Horton - tilt
    Hederson - T/B
    Fisk - nice card - little print noise on the RED
    Sprague - fish eye left edge - tilt
    Egan - T/B
    Foster - 8 (i think)maybe 9 if that's 60/40 or better - a little blip in the scan
    Wood - sharp card - shot at 9 or 10 if you wrap it in a 100 dollar bill
    Mayberry - tilt
    Maddox - slight O/C
    Hardy - tilt and top left corner

    Neikro - silght tilt - both eges on pink borders have some chipping - bottom left corner - nice looking card though

    LaGrow - some noise over the pitcher logo - nice looking card though - they may give the ST qulaifier on an 8 or 9

    Carlton - tilt
    Reynolds - fish eye under "O" not bad though

    1969 MVP - tilt
    1951 MVP - 8

    Foote - sharp card - maybe the corners are an issue - but could be scanner - slight touch on top edge - worth a shot at 9

    Grich - tilt and rough cut

    Cabell - pushing the 60/40 limit - color registration looks off

    Cardinals - send itshot at 9

    Office - Tilt

    Hassler - tilt

    Griffey - tilt

    Perry - tilt

    Dent - T/B

    Rudolph - rough cut and T/B

    Batting Leaders 1974 - Pink corners have a touch and some fish eyes

    Roberts - 60/40+, upper left corner touch

    Brown - pushing 70/30 abd fish eye

    74 Victory Leaders - R/L 30/70 ish

    Kobel - bottom right corner touch

    Drago - tilt

    Sadecki - tilt

    Breeden - sharp card - 8 or better - slight knick top edge

    D'Acquisto - i know its 60/40ish or more but i have a 9 with the same bottom left swirl and centering - 8 or better

    Rettenmund - tilt

    York - top right corner and PD above the "S" -

    Curtis - is that a crease from is left knee to the edge of card? shap otherwise

    Pattin - i know you are tempted but i have two of those exact and they came back 7 and 8 - my guess is that graders are sensitive about the registration - can be heavy at times...

    Harmon - tilt

    Kirby - sharp - 8 or better

    goltz - t/b

    Cowens - t/b

    Gaston - slight tilt


















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