1979 Kellogg's Variations

DanBessette

There are many variations in this set. Anybody who knows me can probably guess I'm most concerned w/ Yaz's 45A and 45B, but there are variations of Palmer, Rose, Guidry, Reggie and others too. Does anybody know if some are rarer than others? PSA SMR lists very little pricing info, and for some reason my big Beckett book only prices the A's, not the B's. Am I to assume this is because variations were produced in roughly equal quantities? Any info anybody could provide will be greatly appreciated.

LarkinCollector

The Bs are rare enough that Beckett does not provide pricing (too thinly traded). I can only speak for the Rose that I've tracked, but I think I've only seen 2 sold over the past 3 years (one was not even labelled the rare variation and one PSA). From the Pop's, the Rose may be the hardest variation to find (181/19 - 1 out of every 10 graded), but it looks like the Yaz can be found more easily (35/17 - 1 out of every 3 graded)

1963ellsworth22and10

There are mainly two different types of 1979 Kellogg's, one printing from the mail in complete sets which are plentiful, and another printing that was only available one card at a time in each cereal box which are more difficult to find. The cards from the cereal boxes don't have the registered trademark next to the team symbol on the back of the card and have the registered trademark in Tony The Tiger's collar, while the mail in complete set cards have a registered trademark next to the team emblems and below Tony The Tiger's collar. There are some exceptions where the teams don't have the trademark symbols in either printing (Red Sox, Phillies, Astros, A's). I guess I need to learn how to show scans on CU, otherwise I would show examples.

DanBessette

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DanBessette

<< <i>The Bs are rare enough that Beckett does not provide pricing (too thinly traded). I can only speak for the Rose that I've tracked, but I think I've only seen 2 sold over the past 3 years (one was not even labelled the rare variation and one PSA). From the Pop's, the Rose may be the hardest variation to find (181/19 - 1 out of every 10 graded), but it looks like the Yaz can be found more easily (35/17 - 1 out of every 3 graded) >>



Both Beckett and SMR refer to 9929 ABs as the "B" and don't list a price. Yet 35 of those have been graded and only 17 graded with 9930 ABs. Why would there be twice as many B's graded as A's if the B's are harder to find? Maybe because collectors are more likely to get a rare card graded if they have it, than a fairly common one? Just interesting because with Rose and others the trend seems to be the opposite: more A's graded than B's

DanBessette

I looked further and there are far more B variations of Reggie Jackson graded than A variations as well. Back to the Yaz: if there are twice as many B's graded as A's, presumably there's more market data for B's. So why would SMR only list pricing for A? Is SMR more likely to list the variation with more market data or the more sought after (rarer) variation? I guess at this point I'm questioning which is the common/rare variation.

jmmiller777

I collect Kellogg HOFer's only in PSA 8-10. Each year has their differences and 1979 was really unique. I think KeyManCollectibles.com does a pretty good job of explaining each set. There were three different press runs with multiple variations for some, a few having the registration symbols in different areas. Other than these differences, only Buddy Bell has the typical "Traded" variation.

DanBessette

I'm not interested in the trademark variations, I'm interested in the errors and corrections. For instance Yaz's ABs as listed above, or Rose's 3 triples vs 33 triples. Anybody know the answer to my Yaz question above? Which is more rare? 9930 ABs or 9929?

1963ellsworth22and10

COMC has seven 1979 Kellogg's Yaz cards and every one of them is the 9929 AB version, so I think it's safe to say that version is the more common one.

DanBessette

I found that on eBay too. So I guess SMR priced the rare version and my 2011 Beckett Almanac priced the wrong one. $4 for the rare A, no pricing for the common B. thanks for the input.

1963ellsworth22and10

Being a Yaz collector, do you know about the 1975 Hostess uncataloged variation of him being listed either an outfielder (common) or as an infielder (rare)? There are ten of them in completed listings on eBay, one of the ten is infielder.

DanBessette

<< <i>Being a Yaz collector, do you know about the 1975 Hostess uncataloged variation of him being listed either an outfielder (common) or as an infielder (rare)? There are ten of them in completed listings on eBay, one of the ten is infielder. >>



I don't know about that one specifically, but there area many Yaz cards late in his career where he's listed as infielder because he played 1B, while some still listed him OF (or both). Of course, famously, he's listed as 2nd base on his 1960 rookie card. There are guys on here who are much more experts on Yaz than I am though. He's my favorite player, but I only decided to focus on him a couple years ago and I have a really limited budget, so I'm only now learning about many of the things in the master set. I aspire to one day have a top notch collection and be a resident expert on his cards. Sadly I'm not there yet.