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1984 Topps John Elway RC PSA 10

ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
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Did anyone notice the price the last Elway 10 got on eBay? It got $2879! Just 6 months earlier it was $1800. And it's not even a PWCC or Probstein auction. For a modern football card that's not that difficult to find, that is a great price in a great market!

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And people think vintage unopened is in a bubble market!


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  • MrNearMintMrNearMint Posts: 1,209 ✭✭✭


    << <i>And people think vintage unopened is in a bubble market! >>




    What's that mean?
  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>And people think vintage unopened is in a bubble market! >>




    What's that mean? >>



    Well, there are some who believe that the current values of vintage unopened product are inflated due to rapid appreciation in market prices. I don't know if we are in a "bubble market" or not, but my point is that prices for graded single cards in high grade have also risen sharply in recent months, as evidenced by the OP with regard to the jump in value of this particular card.


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  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Might be the best Elway RC I've ever seen
  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    oh dear. where's the rest of the upper right border?

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  • TishashereeTishasheree Posts: 85


    << <i>Might be the best Elway RC I've ever seen >>



    I agree. Pretty much perfection.
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Might be the best Elway RC I've ever seen >>



    I agree. Pretty much perfection. >>



    But I thought EVERY PSA 10 was perfection....image
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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,743 ✭✭✭✭✭
    That card was graded a while back when 4SC cards had cert #s starting from 81XXX. IIRC, the 4SC cert #s ran from 812XXX to 819XXX.


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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    shoulda farmed it out to the affiliate 3SC/1MC image
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭
    Personally, nowhere near the best Elway RC I've ever seen because, as itzagoner said, the right border is just wrong. It looks like it was cut with a pair of scissors by a 5 year old. Perhaps it's some weird effect from the scan. If it isn't, that is an odd 10 and it would bug the crap out of me every time I looked at it.

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  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That card was graded a while back when 4SC cards had cert #s starting from 81XXX. IIRC, the 4SC cert #s ran from 812XXX to 819XXX. >>



    Ah, ok, now it makes sense. Forgot about the 4SC factor. Thanks Tim
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  • mlbfan2mlbfan2 Posts: 3,115 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Personally, nowhere near the best Elway RC I've ever seen because, as itzagoner said, the right border is just wrong. It looks like it was cut with a pair of scissors by a 5 year old. Perhaps it's some weird effect from the scan. If it isn't, that is an odd 10 and it would bug the crap out of me every time I looked at it. >>



    It's not the scan because that border looks just as bad from the back.
  • Bear48Bear48 Posts: 241 ✭✭✭
    I agree. 3SC/1MC all the way!
  • 60sfan60sfan Posts: 311 ✭✭✭
    Looks like part of the upper right border is missing.
  • lurkingnomorelurkingnomore Posts: 65 ✭
    Ah, a topic near and dear to my heart ....my opinion is this card even at $2800 still has tremendous upside. My rationale is take a look at the POP report...something like 75 PSA 10's out of 15 thousand graded...couple that with lack of these showing up on ebay (hasn't been another one listed in awhile since one that sold off Ebay) and I think you have your answer.

    My guess is this is a $5k card in 5 years...look at Gretzky 9's going for over $10k, Manning Contender 9 bringing over $12k...Iconic cards like Elway PSA 10 RC's have upside in my opinion.

    Lastly, I agree, I've seen and I actually own nicer Elway PSA 10's...I have even seen a few 10's that are diamond cut - this makes me appreciate even more the nice couple I own

    Al
  • DavidPuddyDavidPuddy Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭
    That is a great looking card. Too bad the whole thing's not there. image
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  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭
    Brutal carve job.
    This makes me really wish I still had my PSA 10 '86 Topps Steve Young...I can't imagine what that would go for now.
    Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
  • mtcardsmtcards Posts: 3,340 ✭✭✭
    Cards like this is why some people will always question the integrity of the grading system. Anyone with an eyeball pointed straight can see this card was "Cut" after the fact, yet it not only didnt get a EOT on it, it got a "10"!!!
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  • itzagoneritzagoner Posts: 8,753 ✭✭
    to clarify, my contention is that the miscut is a factory defect. who would trim a card to look that way and then presume it to be gradable? and how could this defect escape notice?

    it got through, and should not come as a shock to anyone who has been reading and/or participating on this board.

    as we presume our opinions are only that and are here to be shared, i'd agree that the card is not one which i'd choose for myself.
  • hyperchipper09hyperchipper09 Posts: 1,455 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Even with the edge, still the best Elway I've seen. The pic is good. First thing I notice. Majority are trashed with dots, snow even in high grade though that shouldn't get slip through either. Elway, Marino, Stephenson, Jackson, Long, Green from 84 on and on. Majority look like photo rejects. I could live with the edge if I had it image
  • WrigleyCubWrigleyCub Posts: 291
    I see the Marino RC doing the same.
  • ClockworkAngelClockworkAngel Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Brutal carve job.
    This makes me really wish I still had my PSA 10 '86 Topps Steve Young...I can't imagine what that would go for now. >>



    One popped up on eBay about a year ago. I talked to the seller offline and I be;ieve he was looking at the 5K range. I almost picked it up but did not. However, someone on these boards did. He actually subbed it and got a 10 back. It had been pop 3 for years before that one...and it's remained a Pop 4

    Also, I agree with itzagoner that this was a factory miscut. If someone purposely trimmed the card to look like that, they are very confused on what a straight line is. It is what it is. None of should be surprised. 4SharpCorners just has a good eye for cards that have a good shot at a 10
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  • 19541954 Posts: 2,905 ✭✭✭
    EOT all day long.
    Looking for high grade rookie cards and unopened boxes/cases
  • burke23burke23 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Brutal carve job.
    This makes me really wish I still had my PSA 10 '86 Topps Steve Young...I can't imagine what that would go for now. >>



    One popped up on eBay about a year ago. I talked to the seller offline and I be;ieve he was looking at the 5K range. I almost picked it up but did not. However, someone on these boards did. He actually subbed it and got a 10 back. It had been pop 3 for years before that one...and it's remained a Pop 4

    Also, I agree with itzagoner that this was a factory miscut. If someone purposely trimmed the card to look like that, they are very confused on what a straight line is. It is what it is. None of should be surprised. 4SharpCorners just has a good eye for cards that have a good shot at a 10 >>



    I don't think 5k on a psa 10 young is ridiculous at all. That card went ten plus years without increasing the pop report for a 10. Would love to see one hit an auction house someday...bet it would go crazy.
    Looking for rare Randy Moss rookies and autos, as well as '97 PMG Red Football cards for my set.
  • soundgardsoundgard Posts: 650 ✭
    Wow that is one ugly card lol.
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