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JCMhouston
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I won a couple examples of the humble British halfpenney at HA today:
1772 George III - this is an upgrade from my current one, it's a 65 and really well struck:
1788 P966 in Brown Gilt slabbed PF66. I'm showing larger images of this one because of the fantastic details. These were from the Soho mint for those that don't collect them, the first mint to use steam powered presses for coining. You can see the difference in quality compared to the 1772 shown above from the old Royal Mint.
Show us what you got.
1772 George III - this is an upgrade from my current one, it's a 65 and really well struck:
1788 P966 in Brown Gilt slabbed PF66. I'm showing larger images of this one because of the fantastic details. These were from the Soho mint for those that don't collect them, the first mint to use steam powered presses for coining. You can see the difference in quality compared to the 1772 shown above from the old Royal Mint.
Show us what you got.
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Karl Theodor Anton Maria von Dalberg (8 February 1744 – 10 February 1817) was Archbishop of Mainz, Arch-Chancellor of the Holy Roman Empire, Prince of Regensburg, Prince-Primate of the Confederation of the Rhine and Grand Duke of Frankfurt. Amazingly, he was allowed to remain Archbishop of Regensburg after the dissolution of the Confederation in 1813.
Although a clergyman he was deeply involved in politics, rising to Arch Chancellor of the Holy Roman Empire, he had a particular desire to return the Holy Roman Empire to it's previous glory in Germany. Failing this, he threw in his lot with Napoleon after he defeated Austria and Russia at the Battle of Austerlitz thinking Napoleon would be able to unify Germany and provide a strong central government.
Almost immediately after the Battle of Austerlitz the Confederation of the Rhine was formed by 16 German States which banded together and seceded from the Holy Roman Empire, they were later joined by 19 others. The Confederation lasted until 1813 and the Battle of Leipzig where Napoleon was defeated. During the battle the French Grand Army (with their supporting Armies) had been surrounded by the 6th Coalition forces, as the French were being forced back forces from several of the German States sensed defeat and changed sides, both the Saxon infantry and the Wurttemberg cavalry leaving at particularly inopportune times for the French (should we be politically correct and not call this desertion?)
Shown with 2 different lighting setups using the HA images:
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DPOTD Jan 2005, Meet the Darksiders
INDIA. Kushan Empire. Vasudeva I (ca. AD 192-225). AV dinar (20mm, 7.92 gm, 12h). Vasudeva standing facing, head left, flames on shoulder, sacrificing over altar and holding trident .Bactrian legend around: (King of Kings Bazodeo Kushan). Ithyphallic Shiva standing facing, holding trident and diadem; behind, the bull Nandi standing left; tamgha to upper left. Bactrian legend left: ( Oesho/ Shiva) MK 509.
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<< <i>That's very nice PeaceBD! >>
Thanks JCMhouston. You have a beautiful collection of British coins. Do you collect or plan to collect British India?
Here is mine. Really like it!
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PeaceBD, I don't currently have any British India, but never say never. I really like the portrait style they used on the India coins.
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<< <i>Let me join SaorAlba in congratulating the winners. No bids for me, therefore, no wins. There might be a couple of opportunities in the scraps being auctioned later on. >>
Ditto.
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<< <i>I like that obverse design on the Netherlands 1/4 G. by the way. >>
Thanks JCM ... nice strong strike although a little off center but a nice addition to my collection with a Delmonte rarity scale of 2 = Very rare issue
I was watching one piece but it shot through, and very well past, the price point I was hoping to pay.
JC
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<< <i>What was your impression with the pricing levels? >>
Well in general I thought the pricing on the four coins I bid on and did not get were 25-30% higher than I wanted to pay.
My primary focus was on Lot 24729: Netherlands: Holland. gold 5 Stuivers 1692 ... I couldn't stomach going over a $3500 hammer but bid $4000 in a blind lust and it went for $4300.
The others were not of enough interest for me to over bid with a few more auctions to go in this winter season particularly the Newman Auction.
I thought overall the french gold was priced as reasonable as any group, particularly the Royal and mid 1800 stuff.
Higher prices for the higher grade stuff. The Guatemala 8 escudos was so sweet but so $$$$$$$$$$$$. A dream coin to own
I am satisfied with the prices of two pieces I picked up.
The French 40 francs is a fairly common coin but the quality of this coin is better than most of them and I didn't think I would get it for the price I paid so I was a little surprised.
The Netherlands 1/4 G fits my collection perfect !
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<< <i>I was watching one piece but it shot through, and very well past, the price point I was hoping to pay >>
JohnnyCache, When you get that many people bidding on a coin expect high prices ... It was a very nice indeed !!
I half-heartedly bid on a CNG lot but didn't pursue. Hopefully I'll be more than just a spectator on at least one lot before the NYC auctions are over.
<< <i>JohnnyCache, When you get that many people bidding on a coin expect high prices ... It was a very nice indeed !! >>
Thats a monster piece!
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942
949
956
1077 <-- this was a mistake, but an inexpensive one so no big deal
1329
1405
1431 <-- this is my white whale; yay!!!
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AUSTRIA, Khevenhüller-Metsch (Fürsten). Johann Joseph Fürst von Khevenhüller-Metsch. 1706-1776. AR Taler (42mm, 28.06 g, 12h). Wien (Vienna) mint. Dated 1761. Holzmair 41; Davenport 1188. In NGC encapsulation graded MS 62 PL. Toned. Very rare.
Salzburg Early Guldentaler (Doesn't come nicer than this, image doesnt do it justice)
AUSTRIA, Salzburg (Fürsterzbistum). Johann Jakob Khuen von Belasi. 1560-1586. AR Reichsguldiner (40mm, 24.68 g, 11h). Dated 1569. Popken, Salzburg 1041 var. (date); Probszt 574. In NGC encapsulation graded MS 65. Toned over mint luster.
From the Sunflower Collection, MoneyMuseum, Zürich.
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It's fortunate that we spoke about that early Salzburg, or else I'd have gotten into a bidding war not knowing against whom I was bidding. I was anticipating bidding strong because I already recognized it's a high-grade early taler.
Think about it: a late 17C Hogs is worth ~3.5k in gem. It's a no-brainer, IMHO, that your piece is worth MINIMUM what you paid and likely a boatload more.
You can buy me a beer some day...
EVP
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<< <i>That's quite a haul, congratulations on spearing the whale, that's always a good feeling. >>
Thanks. When I left work today, I was happy as a clam. I'm on such a friggin high now. Funny thing... I was monitoring the auction at work and we were just past the Aelfred Viking imitation lot and I got dragged into an impromptu meeting about some nonsense matter. And I was like ... NOW?!?
Can someone please do me a favor and post my white whale on here? I'm using my iPad so it's not convenient. I ask that you post the large pics plus the lot description.
TIA,
EVP
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ANGLO-SAXON, Kings of All England. Harold II. 1066. AR Penny (18mm, 1.30 g, 6h). Pax type (BMC i). Wearwic (Warwick) mint; Thurcil, moneyer. Struck 6 January-14 October 1066. + HΛROLD REX ANGL•, crowned head left; scepter before / + ÐVRCIL ON PEΛRPI, PΛX between two parallel lines. SCBI 2 (Hunterian), 1213 (same dies); Hild. –; BMC –; North 836; SCBC 1186. EF, superb deeply iridescent patina. Exceptional strike and state of preservation. Portrait of excellent style.
Ex William J. Conte Collection (Triton VI, 14 January 2003), lot 1477.
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<< <i>This is what I (think I -- based on my records) won from CNG:
942
949
956
1077 <-- this was a mistake, but an inexpensive one so no big deal
1329
1405
1431 <-- this is my white whale; yay!!! >>
It was inexpensive and nicer looking than the photo. It was also missing from the Luis Flores Nicaragua collection that Ponterio sold last year, from which I bought several of those 1892 patterns.
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<< <i>This is what I (think I -- based on my records) won from CNG:
942
949
956
1077 <-- this was a mistake, but an inexpensive one so no big deal
1329
1405
1431 <-- this is my white whale; yay!!! >>
Nice new hardware EVP. The scudo from Venice looks like it has a nice strike on it.
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EVP - that Harold is amazing!
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Who here won the Mainz sede vacante medals? Darn scoundrels....
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I picked up one inexpensive piece in Stacks for my Shilling type set, an earlier bust of Charles I 1625-49. This one with the Aberystwyth (Wales) type bust, the Tun mintmark used 1636-38 for the Tower Mint under the King. Weakly struck but about as usual, I liked the doubled portrait though which is why I went for this one. And no, I have no idea how to pronounce the Welsh name.
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I discussed the various lots with a British expert from CNG on Friday (he happened to be from their London office), and he and I graded that coin exactly the same and felt that the crustiness of it was acceptable and normal and that it was a fine coin to own for my collection (an EF-ish set of Wessex from AtG to H2 plus sundry nice Anglo-Saxon pieces as funds and opportunity allow).
Aethelred I (865-871). S-1055; North-622. Moneyer Ethelred. Three line lunette type. Evenly toned with clear legends and portrait. RARE.
EVP
PS I will probably free this baby from its entombment, especially since the holder doesn't actually add value to the coin. (It's not like it's graded MS.)
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I really like your mining talers.
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I did, however, ended-up winning a nice 1809-TH 8 Reales in PCGS MS62. Common coin, but I felt it was conservatively graded without too many hairlines that would be associated with that grade.
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